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    isn't oliver north in jail?

    oh that's right, he's only supposed to be in jail.

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    More endorsements:

    Boren, Nunn Endorse Obama

    18 Apr 2008 12:24 pm
    Two major stars of the Democratic foreign policy establishment -- former Sens. Sam Nunn and David Boren, have just endorsed Barack Obama and have agreed to serve on his national security team.
    Marc Ambinder (April 18, 2008) - Boren, Nunn Endorse Obama

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    ^ Will have to check background. I know Nunn was important in defense issues. Dunno about Boren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    Will have to check background. I know Nunn was important in defense issues. Dunno about Boren.

    i'm sure worldnetdaily will have exactly the rabid spin you're looking for.
    Last edited by raycarey; 20-04-2008 at 12:12 AM.

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    I know even less than Jettie, doesn't stop me from adding my 2 Euros worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    ^ Will have to check background. I know Nunn was important in defense issues. Dunno about Boren.
    Can you expand on this "check the background" statement.

    What is the reason to check the background of Nunn and Boren?

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    ^ Coz they agreed to be on Obama's national security team, according to your Marc Orbinder link. Want to see the background.

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    check this too

    50 Lies and Counting: Posted on Political forum.com - Elections and Campaigns .
    1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
    2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
    3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
    4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
    5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives
    to 1 man.
    6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka'
    (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is
    also Arabic and so is Obama.
    7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school,
    where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
    8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces
    (check your own book).
    9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could
    speak the language.
    10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
    11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa
    (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been
    anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
    12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
    13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet
    to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
    14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and
    never did, exist.
    15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience
    by then, and you are all about having experience first.
    16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for
    YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
    17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
    18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
    19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer
    ON LEAVE.
    20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
    21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
    22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

    23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
    24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
    25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even
    YOU voted against your own bill.
    26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
    27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
    28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
    29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
    30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a
    dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
    31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
    32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.
    33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
    34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
    35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
    36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
    37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
    38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
    39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
    40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
    41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
    42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
    43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.
    44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A
    BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
    45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to
    vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
    46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
    47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
    48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
    49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR,
    your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
    50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    50 Lies and Counting: Posted on Political forum.com - Elections and Campaigns
    Thank you BG. This finally convinces me Obama has the experience necessary to be Commander in Chief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    the only way mccain is going to get 35,000 people to show up for a campaign event is if.....well....let's be honest....he's never going to get 35,000 people for any reason.
    So why don't we just grant the election to Obama now because he gets bigger crowds.

    Perhaps the blue collar, nose-to-the-grindstone workers who take personal responsibility seriously are at work to cover their car payments and mortgages and, while they still follow the election, don't feel an overwhelming desire to go out and be seen and vent publically and pose and posture and wear silly signs.

    Unfortunately the media can't "gauge" these votes with newsworthy (read confrontational) images and words. So they're ignored.

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Thank you BG. This finally convinces me Obama has the experience necessary to be Commander in Chief.
    Damn right Norton, You have to be a lying sumbitch to be a winning politician,,

    and he has proven he can handle it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    You have to be a lying sumbitch to be a winning politician,,

    and he has proven he can handle it..
    Unfortunately, one needs to have an inquisitive mind and the ability to discern in order to assess the veracity of someone's allegations on a forum and decide if it is worthy of copy/pasting and wasting other people's time with the unsourced and unsubstantiated partisan material.

    Is that sentence to long for you, bg, shall I rephrase that?

    Ok: you've posted someone else's crap none of which is shown to be true.


    Btw, your link does not lead to any forum nor the copied text.
    Last edited by stroller; 20-04-2008 at 02:33 PM.

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    [quote=Texpat;598721]
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    the only way mccain is going to get 35,000 people to show up for a campaign event is if.....well....let's be honest....he's never going to get 35,000 people for any reason.
    Texpat:
    So why don't we just grant the election to Obama now because he gets bigger crowds.

    Perhaps the blue collar, nose-to-the-grindstone workers who take personal responsibility seriously are at work to cover their car payments and mortgages and, while they still follow the election, don't feel an overwhelming desire to go out and be seen and vent publically and pose and posture and wear silly signs.
    Good note on the car payments. Back in my hometown, I know people of all ages and income levels making car payments. Making car payments at 40? Things are not looking for good financially - or perhaps there is a lack in financial common sense. "I want it."

    Yes, blue collar workers are responsible; yes, white collar workers are responsible.

    Many are; many are not.

    But even the one that are, are feeling the pressure financially. People are paying more for the fixed expenses. These are expenses that you have to pay: mortgage/rent, car, gasoline, food, etc.

    People are slipping, and there isn't gong to a change in that.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    Btw, your link does not lead to any forum nor the copied text.
    No, it doesn't. Supply the correct link, or at least a reference to the source BG, or it will have to be be deleted along with subsequent posts commenting on it.

    Believe it or not, even some of us that are not on the Republican right read these blogs, if only for a bit of a laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    Back in my hometown, I know people of all ages and income levels making car payments. Making car payments at 40?
    But, but, but, Obama and his wife just finished paying off their student loans and they are in their 40s. I wonder if they have car payments now. Maybe jet payments.

    BG, get that dam link fixed before your post gets nixed.

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    Show me the money honey:

    By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer 15 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - Barack Obama raised $41 million in March and had $42 million available to spend against debt-ridden Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton in April, campaign finance reports filed Sunday show
    Clinton reported raising about $20 million in March and had about $8 million for the primary available at the beginning of April. But she also reported debts of $10.3 million, putting her in the red.
    Republican John McCain's report showed he raised $15.2 million and had $11.6 million in the bank. The Arizona senator's March figures were his best fundraising performance of the campaign.
    Obama, McCain show cash on hand - Yahoo! News

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    Obama says McCain would be better president than Bush

    READING, Pa. - Democrat Barack Obama, who often argues that John McCain is the same as President Bush, said Sunday that the Republican presidential candidate would be an improvement over Bush's eight-year reign
    "You have a real choice in this election. Either Democrat would be better than John McCain. And all three of us would be better than George Bush," Obama said.
    Obama says McCain would be better president than Bush - Yahoo! News

    I luv this clever sombitch more every day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    I luv this clever sombitch more every day!
    Well, Hillary is now making a big deal out of his comment somehow implying the comment supports McCain. What a friggin loser she is.

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    ^ Sounds exactly like the response I would expect from a certain nameless TD poster. We all know who that is ...

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    ^...except me. Oh, maybe I have a twinkling.

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    One of the lesser beings on the forum who attack the posters who have attained "higher values" in life?
    Last edited by stroller; 21-04-2008 at 05:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Hillary is now making a big deal out of his comment somehow implying the comment supports McCain.
    particularly after her husband was saying that she and mccain would make for a good general election contest because they both 'loved america'.

    no matter really.....dead campaign walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    One of the lesser beings on the forum who attack the posters who have attained higher values in life?
    "Higher Values"?

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    Oops, forgot the quotation marks.
    Not everyone has read the post I got this from.

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    Stroll, I was having a little fun with that.

    Back on topic, Obama has conceded that he will probably lose Pennsylvania, but says it will be a close race. Meanwhile, the most recent USA/Gallup poll shows that he has widened his nationwide lead. I'm just watching CNN and Fagerson Cooper says the Clinton attacks are getting harsher and harsher, with her saying Obama is too weak to lead the nation.

    WASHINGTON — Barack Obama has widened his lead nationally for the Democratic presidential nomination despite a furor over his comments about small-town Americans, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds. Rival Hillary Rodham Clinton is getting more of the blame among those who say their contest has become too negative.
    As the candidates make a final push for votes in today's Pennsylvania primary, Obama leads the survey by 50%-40% among Democrats and voters who lean Democratic. That's a bigger edge than the 7 percentage-point lead he held in the USA TODAY poll last month.
    Obama widens national lead in USA TODAY/Gallup Poll - USATODAY.com

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