Thread: US Presidential Campaign 2008

Damn sho, If he get 50% of the white vote and he gonna get all of us colored folks votes, so you know he gonna win.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Damn sho, If he get 50% of the white vote and he gonna get all of us colored folks votes, so you know he gonna win.

Sho nuff Big Mama.

Originally Posted by blackgang

and he gonna get all of us colored folks votes

blackgang is black?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The 'average' white person has been turned off by Obama's eletist attitudes as well as those so-called 'Archie Bunker' types I assure you. Those in their respective Ivory Towers cannot recognize this fact.

There must be a lot of Ivory Towers in the US, judging by the latest polls.

Or maybe it is those on oil-platforms who have difficulties facing reality?

Originally Posted by Norton

I have noticed a marked sense of increasing desperation amongst our fine right wing members and birds of the same feather in the US....

As Obama's chances of being the next President are becoming more evident (if polls are to be believed) the conservatives are in a panic...

Racist comments abound but I fail to see how the amount of melanin in his skin has any bearing on his ability to fill the job...

As the gap between the haves and have nots in America widen, claiming he is for the betterment of lower and middle class people in contrast to big business or the rich is far healthier for the economy than what "conservatives" have and will continue offer.

You're going to have to do a much better job than you have so far to discredit Obama so get a grip my fine conservative friends your worst nightmare is about to be a reality. Obama will be the next President of the US.

Norton, the point is, we had little info about Obama when all the candidates were still in the pack. Initially, I believed (and still do) that he oozes charisma, but I didn't think he'd live to see election day if he was nominated. What policies did he have then? Bring the white house back to the people?

As they evolve, Obama's policies are very much slanted to heavy taxes to bail out or help the lower classes (middle classes? bet their taxes would go up). Sounds nice.

The key premise of the United States of America is that anybody can realize his/her dream. There is just one caveat: you have to WORK for it. The US is not a socialist state, it is a capitalist one. Sure you can go work in a factory, but if you want to build your dream, you can do that more easily than in tax-choked nations, like Canada or Western Europe. And, if you succeed, the government doesn't penalise you for it by making you pay way more to support the lazy gits who just expect a handout, and I would expect more lazy gits if Obama gets in.

Obama is dredging up the old race card, not us. But as he has, so we will respond. His latest comments in Pennsylvania are one of his finest efforts in cleaving that divide. How come he doesn't say that sh*t in the poor black neighbourhoods where folks use guns to kill more than to protect, where preachers spew racist vitriole and where any "spics, honkies or chinks" fear to tread.

Sorry, the more I hear him and his wife speak, the more resigned I am to go against him.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

The key premise of the United States of America is that anybody can realize his/her dream. There is just one caveat: you have to WORK for it.

And how would this clash with helping the lower classes? Sure, every cent the poor have more to spend on food, housing and schooling, the rich will have less to spend on private airplanes and luxury resorts.
But does this stop anyone from realising their dreams? Maybe it would become a bit easier for the ones who are furthest away from it to take a step in the right direction - what's wrong with that?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Obama is dredging up the old race card, not us. But as he has, so we will respond. His latest comments in Pennsylvania are one of his finest efforts in cleaving that divide.

Oh, was this speech "racist" or something? I must have missed that bit.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

How come he doesn't say that sh*t in the poor black neighbourhoods where folks use guns to kill more than to protect, where preachers spew racist vitriole and where any "spics, honkies or chinks" fear to tread.

Why should he?
Here's an idea: let others voice their opinions when, where and how they see fit, and don't expect them to express yours.

^ 555 You just won't give it up, will you Strolls? I came from lower middle class and I had a dream and I worked and paid my way for all my education and would not give up to get what I wanted. And I got it. Why should I give away what I earned just coz Joe B doesn't have the brains or wherewithall to go get his own?

Ya, why should Obama say that belittling crap in the black ghetto areas, Stroll? Just give em freebies? I call that speech racist coz he never said anything like it in the po black neighbourhoods.

Guess it's different in socialist Germany, but then, I ain't never seen anyone but a German Aryan running for high office there. How are all those poor Turkish ghetto folk doing, Strolls?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I came from lower middle class and I had a dream and I worked and paid my way for all my education and would not give up to get what I wanted. And I got it.

So did and have I, thanks. Hasn't made me lose perspective or sympathy for those who haven't made it though.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Why should I give away what I earned just coz Joe B doesn't have the brains or wherewithall to go get his own?

As a well educated person from the lower middle class who's made it, you know that it isn't just brains or wherewithall. Why not use your full intellectual capacity when you comment? You'll only get called on your bluffs again and again.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Guess it's different in socialist Germany, but then, I ain't never seen anyone but a German Aryan running for high office there. How are all those poor Turkish ghetto folk doing, Strolls?

Yawn, start a topic on the German Aryans if you like, but having cheap shots at me for my nationality won't help you in this thread - it's rather pathetic, actually.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Ya, why should Obama say that belittling crap in the black ghetto areas, Stroll?

Curious how offensive calling a spade a spade can be when it's done by someone on the other side of the political spectrum, isn't it?
I hope you'll remember this for future reference.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Just give em freebies?

Where is this peculiar notion coming from? Imagination gone wild?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I call that speech racist coz he never said anything like it in the po black neighbourhoods.

Gawd, you're really desperate to pin something "racist" on the guy, just to hide your own racism, which has been painfully obvious.
Why can't you be honest about your feelings and motives?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

As reporters looked on, the Democrat presidential candidate emptied one 10-round magazine after another, with fair accuracy, at a human silhouette target.

Was it a poster depicting Obama by any chance?

Buy one for your small-town gun owner, law enforcer, or church-goer. Buy two for your embittered Pennsylvania friends and family. Or send one to your favorite Obama supporter! It’s an elitist thang. They’ll understand:





After all, it's an Elitest thing! We just don't understand!

Thanks to Michelle Malkin » By popular demand: SNOBwear!

There exists a world outside of the USA actually, and I suspect many US citizens might be surprised how many of us there are. We don't vote in the US, but we watch your elections. The Bush administration has driven home to even the apathetic majority that what happens in your country affects us too.

To most of us, the only candidate that even registers on the Richter scale is Obama. His resume' is the best- far and away. His intelligence and eloquence in an entirely different league. His statesmanship also. His achievements. He represents something. Oh, is he half Black? Well I'll be Gawdamned.

McCain- lets face it, a well meaning buffoon. Fluff.

Hillary- Wife of the ex-President. For all of his faults, Bill looks like some sort of god compared to your incumbents. But we look askance at why George seniors retarded Son should be succeeded by Bills Wife. Sounds a little, ummm, undemocratic y'know.

Carry On.

Originally Posted by sabang

Sounds a little, ummm, undemocratic y'know.

One might even say "elitist".

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

You calling me a racist again, Strolls? 555 How many close black friends have you ever had?

allegedly having black friends means you can't be a racist?

and after reading many of your posts on this forum jet gorgon, IMO there is no point in denying that you are indeed a racist.

Actually, some of my best friends are White.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I give lots to charities of my choice and to people in need. I don't need a govt to tell me where to give it and then waste most of it on admin.

I respect this attitude, yet it overlooks issues in society which create need.
When there is one person in need, charity is the right approach to assist, when there are 1000 people in need, with a common denominator causing it, then this is best addressed on a communal level, i.e. politics.

Originally Posted by stroller

Yawn, start a topic on the German Aryans if you like, but having cheap shots at me for my nationality won't help you in this thread - it's rather pathetic, actually.

Hey, you want to bash another country, let's look what it's like in your own. Sidestepping again.

Refusing to discuss "German Aryans" in an Obama thread in US Domestic is "sidestepping"?
Besides, how does defending one of the leading US presidential candidates translate into "bash another country"?

- get a grip, gal.

You calling me a racist again, Strolls? 555 How many close black friends have you ever had? Or any other nationality? Easy for you to play pundit away from America ain't it? Yep, them white folks are to blame for all of America's ills. Keep trying, Strolls.

Are you drunk?

And, I have been to ghetto areas, Stroller. You should do a tour yourself before you spew your liberal remarks and accusations.

Looks to me like you are the one "spewing accusations" about the Obamas and all and sundry who call you on it.

My black friends won't even go to the ghetto areas and they work hard to do the same as I do: make a living.

I see, good blacks shut up and get on with life, nice. Why do the Obamas stir trouble, I wonder, haven't they got enough money to live on? Or are they too mean to donate some to charity to solve the problems in society? Or maybe they are just nasty, screwed up people, blacks with a chip on their shoulder? Commie racists with an anti-American agenda?

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

You calling me a racist again, Strolls? 555 How many close black friends have you ever had?

allegedly having black friends means you can't be a racist?

and after reading many of your posts on this forum jet gorgon, IMO there is no point in denying that you are indeed a racist.

Heh...after reading your posts ad nauseum, IMO (& others I'm sure) you're an elitist snob. And that's being charitable!

I'm surprised that the margin isn't greater since this half-honky, half-donkey made those statements. How does it feel to be in the minority...again, there RC?

"Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters nationwide disagree with Barack Obama’s statement that people in small towns “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 25% agree with the Democratic frontrunner while 19% are not sure."

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

Originally Posted by sabang

To most of us, the only candidate that even registers on the Richter scale is Obama. His resume' is the best- far and away. His intelligence and eloquence in an entirely different league. His statesmanship also. His achievements. He represents something. Oh, is he half Black? Well I'll be Gawdamned.

Yes, thats what he says alright, but no one, at least the general public has really heard what he thinks or will do or is like,, well they have heard some, but it has been denied and was saying it was a mistake and not really his own ideas.

We have to remember he is a politician and what he says into a mike is not what is really going on in his head. He is selling a product..

True, honest Joe.
Here's the liberal spin on Obama's words that these folks are bitter and clinging to guns, religion and fear of immigrants.

Obama's email campaign translation:
"A few days ago, Barack spoke about the frustrations that working people in this country are feeling and said what we all know is true: that many people are bitter and angry because they believe their government isn't listening to them."
Welcome to Obama for America
Um, OK.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 25% agree with the Democratic frontrunner while 19% are not sure."

Hmm, so that makes 25% of the American people "elitists".
I see...

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Here's the liberal spin on Obama's words

Sorry hon, it is not the liberal spin, it is a quote from Obama's campaign website.

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 25% agree with the Democratic frontrunner while 19% are not sure."

Hmm, so that makes 25% of the American people "elitists".

No...just dumb, stupid or blind to the creeping Marxisim that would be an Obama POTUS...