Thread: Iraq News

Owned simply by reading the link he posted, which he obviously didn't.

Originally Posted by Wallace

Boon Mee - do you really believe this poll? Come on. Taken from 'Newsbusters - Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias'. What the hell do you expect from such a publication?

You missed the statistic - 53 percent say Congress should stop funding additional troops.


What's funny is that the statistic you quote is nowhere in that article. Oh well, never mind.

That statistic is not what I'm refering to.
It's a CBS Poll - a noted left-wing, liberal 'news' organization who say ~half of America supports succeeding in Iraq.
Get your focus here, boys...

Originally Posted by Wallace

Boon Mee - you can't post an item, add a link, and then say that your post had nothing to do with the link you added.

There's nothing wrong with my eyesight. To call CBS a 'noted left-wing, liberal news organisation' is like calling Bush a Marxist. You can find statistics to support any argument you like, and that was my point.

So what happened to Gunga Dan Rather then, eh?
Not a noted left-wing news organization my ass...

Well, he might have had a liberal bias as an anchorman, but does that mean the WHOLE of CBS is left-wing? I don't think so.

If you think it is, then you need to spend some time watching European news broadcasts.

Originally Posted by Wallace

If you think it is, then you need to spend some time watching European news broadcasts.

Booners view is so skewed to the right that he can't distinguish left from middle.

So, if the figures are not reliable, in your opinion, or at least the ones which refute your point, then why refer to them?
Can't find any accurate ones to support your claim?

Originally Posted by Wallace

Well, he might have had a liberal bias as an anchorman, but does that mean the WHOLE of CBS is left-wing? I don't think so.

If you think it is, then you need to spend some time watching European news broadcasts.

Yep, agree, Europe is 'worse' in that respect.
Whole masses of folks brainwashed into believing a 'Nanny' state is good for 'em...

Another Lamestream Media Tactic: Headlines That Don't Match The Story.

Here's the Associated Press headline , "U.S. general: No evidence Iran is arming Iraquis.

Now here's what the General in question, Peter Pace, actually said:
" Gen. Pace, Chairman of the JCS, said U.S. forces hunting down militant networks that produced roadside bombs had arrested Iranians and that some of the material used in the devices were made in Iran.

"That does not translate that the Iranian govt. per se, for sure, is directly involved in doing this," Pace told reporters in Jakarta. "What it does say is that things made in Iran are being used in Iraq to kill coalition soldiers."

So Pace says the Iranians are bringing Iranian made weapons into Iraq that are killing American soldiers. That's a long way from, "No evidence of Iran is arming Iraquis."

Can't you read?

He states that there is no evidence that Iran, the state, is arming anyone in Iraq. For all you know some private arms dealer from Tehran is selling arms to Iraqis using the 360 tons of cash we shipped over there.

It would be like finding Chevy Suburbans in Iran and claiming that the United States is providing transportation for Iran's nuclear research projects.

Originally Posted by surasak

For all you know some private arms dealer from Tehran is selling arms to Iraqis using the 360 tons of cash we shipped over there.

Uh huh...sorry, stopped beliving in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus some time ago.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

So Pace says the Iranians are bringing Iranian made weapons into Iraq...

No, have you read what you posted?
Look 2 paragraphs above in your own post: "...that some of the material used in the devices were made in Iran"

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Uh huh...sorry, stopped beliving in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus some time ago.

So, Gen Pace is a toothfairy for claiming there is no evidence to connect to the Iranian gov?
That's very disrespectful and anti-patriotic!

It isn't rocket science to be able to connect the dots, is it?

No dots here to connect. You misquoted the General, plain and simple, a few lines after the quote of what he actually said.

Pathetic!

Read my last a little more closely there, 4 eyes...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

he actually presented some evidence that they very well might be providing materials

Ehum..

i thought the dabate on iraq was over. its a total mess.

only the most stringent of supporters are the only ones who think that iraq is a success. those same folk like to think of iran as our next military adventure.

i know several folk who either are in iraq now, or have been part of the first wave, and successive waves. their consensus isnt unanimous.

people on the first wave into baghdad say it was worth it and they support what we're doing. most folk i know that are part of the securing the peace part- almost overwhelmingly- they say that this we're wasting our time there.

and that aint no classified stuff. i dont get any operational detail. sometimes its how they say it and what they chose not to talk about that the most revealing.

we need to get out now and prosecute bush for war crimes.

The smoking gun of Iranian support for Iraqi insurgents.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Read my last a little more closely there, 4 eyes...

After you edited it, it makes more sense, yeah, right.

Surrender Resolution Fails .

It's nice to see the Senate Republicans show a little backbone...

Except "surrender" was not up for voting.

COWARDS GIVE UP ON GIS - & GIVE IN TO EVIL

PROVIDING aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime is treason. It's not "just politics." It's treason.

And signaling our enemies that Congress wants them to win isn't "supporting our troops."

The "nonbinding resolution" telling the world that we intend to surrender to terrorism and abandon Iraq may be the most disgraceful congressional action since the Democratic Party united to defend slavery...

Oh no, here we go. This is a stupid article written by a bitter man who supported the war on Iraq and initially thought it was all going to go well for the United States.

It is interesting to note that the same writer also says:

"Iraq is failing. No honest observer can conclude otherwise." (Nov. 2006)

and "Our military is now being employed for political purposes. It's unworthy of our nation." (Nov. 2006)
which rather suggests he would be in favour of a pull-out, doesn't it?

Perhaps my favourite quote from him is:

"[i]t appears that the cynics were right: Arab societies can't support democracy as we know it." (Nov.2006)

Ralph Peters says a lot of things, Boon Mee, but judging from the other things he's said, your post above is not really representative.

Had Enough Yet?