Thread: Amanda Knox gets away with murder

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by madjbs

With the DNA evidenced deemed unreliable and invalid there was no evidence to connect her to the crime scene and no motive. Despite what some people seem to think, you can't convict people to life in Jail without solid EVIDENCE.

There is solid evidence but that depends if you have some common sense or if you are an anarchist.

I'd say common sense or ignore-ance.

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Some years ago I was on a jury at the Old Bailey. It was a murder case. Three black guys were being menaced by another black guy with an axe. One hit him with a pool cue. He died.

One of the jurors was much like the Teakdoor members above. Refused to engage in any way with evidence, just his own gut-feel. This guy (Irish actually, worked at the Wig and Pen Club as a chef - low intelligence), had his 'opinion to which he was entitled'.....somebody he once knew had been killed, with no culprit found.

Therefore he was going to find these guys guilty. Flat out - banging the table (for real, not in a metaphorical Teakdoor-ish style). He refused to even discuss any other verdict, let alone the evidence, in the jury room.

And thats the danger with jury systems. Idiot jurors who can't process evidence, even in simple cases.

Did the Court throw him off the jury? In the USA, what you described is called "refusal to deliberate" and it's grounds for the judge to toss him off the jury and bring in an alternate. Obviously a delicate subject since either the defense or the prosecution is going to be unhappy, but if done right it can withstand the inevitable appeal.
What was the ultimate resolution of the case?

10-1

(just 11 on this jury)

Judge insisted on unanimity. We couldn't get it. So we couldn't return a verdict.

Prosecution declined to pursue a retrial (saying it there and then in the Courtroom.)

So, acquittal.

This could have all been avoided if they had just hanged her.

^ Think she's already doing that herself.

Originally Posted by socal

There you have it. Another example of how pathetic and useless western justice systems are.

How is it that you via judicial osmosis know more than a room full of people spending weeks considering every aspect of the case.

All the people who bang on about her being innocent and locked up
for 4 years she was guilty of trying to get her boss locked up for the murder and got 3 years for trying to set him up and a 22,000 euro fine so she was only away for a year . personally i dont think she murdered her but you can't lock people up for being a dirty little slag

^^Your supposed to suck up the info at their calculated osmotic rate that they have estimated for you.

Then its likely you'll take weeks to understand it.

After a while the penny drops and you go along with what has been presented to you

Look at these pics.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_1...4.html?tag=img

A tomboy.

Robust facial and physical features.

fella looks like he's just won the raffle to ride her first.

"Yaaaaaaaay, i'm a grease her up goooooood"

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Moonraker

Whether she's guilty or not, this case has oodles of reasonable doubt.

I doubt we have been told the full story; how much pressure was put on the Italian judges by the US diplomats to acquit?

They found the black guys semen in her vagina, and he was convicted of murder. More media claptrap has Knox being a rich girl, when that is not the case. Thank God you weren't on the jury, and your conjecture being used to put an innocent person behind bars for a few decades.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by madjbs

With the DNA evidenced deemed unreliable and invalid there was no evidence to connect her to the crime scene and no motive. Despite what some people seem to think, you can't convict people to life in Jail without solid EVIDENCE.

There is solid evidence but that depends if you have some common sense or if you are an anarchist.

I'd say common sense or ignore-ance.

I dunno about that.

Any time these cases come up, where common sense points to obvious guilt but technicalities and bullshit win out, the cop hating anarchist hippies and quick to triumph a win.

Even though, deep down allot of these anti social anarchist hippies know the person is guilty.

Originally Posted by Lorenzo

Originally Posted by socal

There you have it. Another example of how pathetic and useless western justice systems are.

How is it that you via judicial osmosis know more than a room full of people spending weeks considering every aspect of the case.

A jury filled with cop hating anarchist hippies always puts the prosecution on trial rather then the accused.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

This could have all been avoided if they had just hanged her.

If any of my family members where on the receiving end of this vile bitches antics, I would have her killed and i would do my best to get away with it.

Has Knox explained yet why at the start she kept changing her story,
then under police interrogation claimed she was in the house in another room , heard Merith kercher scream, covered her ears , then saw a black guy leaving .
The black guy she said was her ex boss a bar owner called Patrick Lumumba.
who was locked up for 2 weeks, then freed when the DNA of another black guy
Rudy Guede was found.
if it was police pressure and tiredness, well she had 2 weeks to change her story, but did not .

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by madjbs

With the DNA evidenced deemed unreliable and invalid there was no evidence to connect her to the crime scene and no motive. Despite what some people seem to think, you can't convict people to life in Jail without solid EVIDENCE.

There is solid evidence but that depends if you have some common sense or if you are an anarchist.

I'd say common sense or ignore-ance.

I dunno about that.

Any time these cases come up, where common sense points to obvious guilt but technicalities and bullshit win out, the cop hating anarchist hippies and quick to triumph a win.

Even though, deep down allot of these anti social anarchist hippies know the person is guilty.

Technicalities and bullshit are the tools of the ignor-ant..They can come in any colour or combination from hippy to fascist.

I dont know what went on in this horrible crime but can't see why its proved so difficult to bring the perpitrator(s) to justice.

For me, now that amanda is back on us soil , the obvious thing for the US authorities to do is to put Amanda on the polygraph.

For one they wont want to be wrongly housing a possible murderer, and two from amandas point of view a negative result would re-inforce her claim of innocence, but a positve result......

But she wouldn't be afraid of taking a polygraph, would she

I don't think you could get a steady reading out of her.

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Wonder how the black guy feels now his 2 buds have got away.

He should consider himself extremely lucky. If the prosecution had not foolishly sunk their teeth so deep into Amanda Knox before they even considered the evidence against that guy they would have charged him with murder and he would have gotten the 20 plus years. As it is he was only charged with accessory to murder or whatever the exact legalistic term is. And he is the only guy they have real evidence against.

So what again was the theory? All knew each other (including black guy) and he was banging her while they held her down with a knife to her throat in some kind of game, but then ended up cutting her throat? Is that the story?

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Wonder how the black guy feels now his 2 buds have got away.

He should consider himself extremely lucky. If the prosecution had not foolishly sunk their teeth so deep into Amanda Knox before they even considered the evidence against that guy they would have charged him with murder and he would have gotten the 20 plus years. As it is he was only charged with accessory to murder or whatever the exact legalistic term is. And he is the only guy they have real evidence against.

So what if now writes a book of what happened according to him? The Italians still have no solid evidence that will hold up in court? So basically she and he ex have done an OJ. Who says Justice will be done. They executed a guy last week with less evidence. Money talks! The judges comments surely point to his belief in who is responsible.

There's plenty of solid evidence in this case.

How it was presented was the failure.

The three are guilty as hell for bringing about the death of Kircher.

Whatever they gain in royalties or otherwise from this they will lose.