Thread: Brit beaten to death in Dubai Police cell

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by BobR

If he had done what he was told, he would not have gotten hurt.

Or maybe he realised that if he had gone in to solitary then they were going to give him a good beating away from the view of prying eyes. Sometimes you really are a naive chump.

Does insulting people on a keyboard make you feel like a man, you pathetic old punk?

that's funny, BobR in high dudgeon over being 'insulted' (being called a naive chump). Too funny from the master of the back handed insult.
Don't like it bob?
Boo hoo.

Originally Posted by natalie8

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the North Africans who populate Dubai police.

North Africans? The police forces here used to employ officers from other countries but that's no more. They are all from the UAE.

And in Oztralia we have Refuge security gaurds looking after the Reruges Assliam seekers, cheap pay and crap conditionds, that till the Public find out about it!

Everytime I go through Dubai on the way to Bangkok I always read stories about a women claiming to be raped and beaten by some local and the that police are looking in to it.With the money and class system out there I would imagine
you could get away with whatever you wanted.

Been through that Airport more than a dozen times and I have never once
had the urge to book a stop over, I am always delighted to leave.

Nothing to do with the race I just dont like the culture.

Originally Posted by mingmong

Originally Posted by natalie8

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the North Africans who populate Dubai police.

North Africans? The police forces here used to employ officers from other countries but that's no more. They are all from the UAE.

And in Oztralia we have Refuge security gaurds looking after the Reruges Assliam seekers, cheap pay and crap conditionds, that till the Public find out about it!

It's much simpler than that. (a) Tunisians, Egyptians, etc. are happy to lay a hand on an Emirati as they work for their paymasters. Other Emiratis tend not to, as it can cause tribal or family problems; and (b) Emiratis are inherently soft c*nts and don't want to work, let alone pull the piss/puke/shit/blood-stained night shift at your local cop shop, except behind a desk where they can cop a snooze.

I can see why westerners would want to work in Dubai but why would anyone want to go there on a vacation?

Originally Posted by RamboII

I can see why westerners would want to work in Dubai but why would anyone want to go there on a vacation?

Beaches, Clubs, Birds, Booze, Shopping, in no particular order, all quite fun if you follow a few simple rules. One of those rules is don't piss off a local.

The best advice I was ever given was "Never upset someone who can beat you, jail you or kill you, and who has an excellent chance of getting away with it".

I can't understand why the guy didn't comply with the officers if this is the case
of him refusing to do as he was told. I think that the woman was a hooker too.
Regardless, that kind of treatment was ott and unnecessary. R.I.P.

Originally Posted by SiLeakHunt

I wonder how the press would be dealing with it if British Police had beaten a man of Muslim origin, say a Pakistani to death..

Cheers

Gotcha!

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RamboII

I can see why westerners would want to work in Dubai but why would anyone want to go there on a vacation?

Beaches, Clubs, Birds, Booze, .

Nicely put there Harry, a man after my own heart I've been stopping off in Dubai for nearly 30 years and stayed in some top hotels you just need to learn the ropes never had one ounce of trouble.

I have also stayed in the said hotel twice and why the fuk would you cause trouble in there? we don't know the whole story yet maybe we never get to know now he's dead.

I'm sure that the hotel security could have dealt with any problem I remember the first time we stayed there I had flown there from Manchester with my wife and daughter we get picked up at the airport (air side) and straight through customs into the waiting RR, with a body guard, we had booked direct and not through an agent I guess we were getting the treatment.

One thing I noticed was the security around the place most of them were special service (SAS) whatever and a few Gurkha's thrown in for good measure.

So why would you if you had half a brain go in there and cause trouble, maybe he tried to get a grip of the chambermaid who knows

I really can't see an Essex maintenance boy staying in the Burj.

It seems it made one of the local free papers this morning.

Originally Posted by RamboII

I can see why westerners would want to work in Dubai

I can't.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

One of those rules is don't piss off a local.

The best advice I was ever given was "Never upset someone who can beat you, jail you or kill you,

White Uncle Tom's workin for Bed Sheet Mas'ers?

I can't actually get the UAE-local article to load; might be being blocked by the Dubai authorities.

Can anyone open this and post it?

Link

Originally Posted by taxexile

A Day in the Life of a Dubai Prisoner

some stories and facts about the law, offences and prisons in dubai on this website 'detained in dubai", a charity that helps those who get into trouble there.


interesting to note that although they serve alcohol on emirates air, if you are breathalysed and found over the limit on your stopover you will be arrested and incarcerated.

UAE law says that it is illegal to be drunk in public. It also says that if you are blood tested and found to have illegal drugs in your system, you will be charged and sentenced for possession.

Both of these apply if you piss people off, so the simple answer is: Don't do it. If you give them no reason to investigate, they will leave you alone.

Originally Posted by taxexile

interesting to note that although they serve alcohol on emirates air, if you are breathalysed and found over the limit on your stopover you will be arrested and incarcerated.

Really? I thought hotels served alcohol too - and in any event I thought this was only a crime if you were a muslin - e.g. non-muslims not affected (it's this way in other muslim countries). Harry, can you confirm this is the case in UAE?

Can't open your link.

A bit more on BBC.

BBC News - Briton dies in Dubai police custody

from the "detained in dubai" website.


If you live in Dubai as an expat, you can apply for an alcohol license allowing you to purchase a limited amount of alcohol for private consumption in your home. However, be aware that your license permits you only to carry the alcohol from the shop to your home and you’re advised to do this in the privacy of your own car, rather than a taxi or public transport.



Consider though that drinking or being drunk in public is illegal and will be viewed seriously by the locals and authorities. We have received case reports of people who have been drinking at licensed premises (not to excess) and been reported by taxi drivers on the way home. This can result in an overnight stay at the police station. Taxi drivers are notorious for dropping you off at the station, rather than your home, particularly if you are loud or impolite.



Top Drinking in Dubai Recommendations:

1. 1. If you buy alcohol, drive it straight home preferably in the comfort of your own car. If you do take a taxi, keep your alcohol concealed, even if you have a license.
   

1. 2.Do not leave your home after drinking, in case you are reported as being under the influence.
   

1. 3.Avoid alcohol at venues other than your home.
   

1. 4.If you are planning on drinking outside of your home, stay well within your limits & make plans in advance on how you intend to return home. If catching a taxi, be polite & make sure you are not drunk upon entering the vehicle.
   

1. 5.Do not “hang around” outside venues where alcohol is consumed as it has been known for people to be arrested randomly at these places. Even one drink would be enough for police to detain you.
   

1. 6.Even if you see others drinking in public, be aware they are risking prison & deportation.
   

1. 7.Do not under any circumstances drink and drive in Dubai. The limit is 0. Even if you are simply moving your car from the lobby of a hotel to a car park, you can and will be arrested as someone recently found out. You will be arrested, blood tested & detained. The sentence could be anything from 1 month to 3 years and a large fine. Deportation is highly likely.
   

1. 8.Be even more careful and respectful during Ramadan, where you may be thrown in jail until the end of Ramadan for drinking related offenses.
   

1. 9.Do not drink Alcohol in the Emirate of Sharjah, ever.
   

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Originally Posted by taxexile

interesting to note that although they serve alcohol on emirates air, if you are breathalysed and found over the limit on your stopover you will be arrested and incarcerated.

Really? I thought hotels served alcohol too - and in any event I thought this was only a crime if you were a muslin - e.g. non-muslims not affected (it's this way in other muslim countries). Harry, can you confirm this is the case in UAE?

Most GCC countries serving alcohol prohibit muslims from drinking it. In Dubai, they tend to ban people with national dress from buying it in bars and clubs. So the mussies slip on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt and no problem.

Here's the UAE report:

An Investigation has been launched after a British holidaymaker died in a cell at Bur Dubai Police Station.
Lee Bradley Brown passed away on Monday while in custody following his arrest last week in connection with an assault case.
The British Embassy confirmed his death and said it had been contacted by the 39-year-old’s family who claimed Brown was beaten by police officers during his detention.
A spokesman for the embassy said: “I can confirm the man died in custody and that the embassy is taking the allegations of the family very seriously. We are launching an investigation and working with Dubai Police.”
A police official also confirmed the self-employed maintenance man’s death and said the force will carry out its own probe once the results of a post mortem are known.
“We are now waiting for the forensic report to see the cause of death and have nothing more to reveal for the moment,” he told 7DAYS. It is believed Brown left his home in London last week for an unplanned break in Dubai.
A source at Dubai Public Prosecution said he was arrested on April 6 in connection with an assault and also faced charges of intimidating behaviour and use of abusive language.

PRISONERS CALL FAMILY

Brown’s family say they were unaware he was planning a trip to the UAE but said he had told them he was feeling stressed and needed to “get away”. His family claimed they found out he was in a Dubai cell when fellow inm[at]ates phoned an emergency number in his belongings to tell his next of kin he had been attacked.
According to the family, the inmates called again the next day and said they had seen his body being removed from the station.
Radha Stirling, founder of Detained in Dubai, said the group hopes a full enquiry will be carried out into his death.
She said: “We deal with a lot of cases but I have never come across any allegations as serious as this before. We would hope a full and detailed enquiry is carried out and that it is taken as an opportunity for the authorities to set up a support group for the rights of prisoners.”

No mention of the Burj Al Arab.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Most GCC countries serving alcohol prohibit muslims from drinking it. In Dubai, they tend to ban people with national dress from buying it in bars and clubs. So the mussies slip on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt and no problem.

Thanks - can you also say that the website 'detained in dubai - referenced by taxexile above is correct? Or is it overly nannyish?

Thanks - can you also say that the website 'detained in dubai - referenced by taxexile above is correct? Or is it overly nannyish?

why dont you fly out there and check for yourself doubting thomas?

read about the guy, randomly searched during a stopover and detained for 50 days for having melatonin tablets in his luggage.

or the guy who had poppy seeds from a bread roll on his lapel and sentenced to 4 years.

Travellers who 'smuggle' poppy seeds face Dubai jail



Ginny McGrath


div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited {color:#06c;}Britons heading to the United Arab Emirates have been warned that carrying some foodstuffs and common over-the-counter medications could warrant a four-year prison sentence.
Among the banned substances are foods containing poppy seeds; melatonin, which is taken to ease the effects of jetlag; codeine, a common ingredient in pain relief medication, and any trace of drugs such as cannabis, however small.
The warning was issued by the charity Fair Trials International, which assists people facing trials abroad, following a spate of arrests of visitors to Dubai and Abu Dhabi.
The charity's chief executive Catherine Wolthuizen said: “We even have reports of the imprisonment of a Swiss man for 'possession’ of three poppy seeds on his clothing after he ate a bread roll at Heathrow.”
Among the Britons arrested recently in Dubai for carrying banned substances is Grooverider, a Radio 1 DJ, who is facing up to four years in prison after Dubai customs officials reportedly found a small amount of cannabis in his record collection. His case has been adjourned until later this month.
In another case, a 43-year-old man from Middlesex was imprisoned earlier this week for four years after Dubai customs officials used highly sensitive screening equipment to detect 0.003g cannabis in the tread of his shoe. Keith Andrew Brown was stopped in transit from Ethiopia to London last September. The amount of the drug found on his shoe would not be visible to the naked eye and weighs less than a single grain of sugar.
Unlike many countries, the UAE will also arrest travellers found with traces of banned substances in their bodily fluids.
Ms Wolthuizen said: “What many travellers may not realise is that they can be deemed to be in possession of such banned substances if they can be detected in their urine or bloodstream, or even in tiny, trace amounts on their person."
Among the cases named by the chairty is that of Tracy Wilkinson, 45, from West Sussex, who was arrested at Dubai airport in 2005 for possession of codeine, which she had been taking for chronic back pain. She was held in custody for 8 weeks before officials accepted proof from her doctor of its use for prescribed medical purposes only.
For a full list of substances banned in the UAE, click here.



cant be too nannyish when dealing with those scum.

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Why don't we let the guy who lives there tell us instead smart ass?

It may be spot on - I'm just checking with another source who actually lives in the place. You think I'm a Dubai-supporter or something? Nope.

.... and make sure you dont have any of the following tablets with you when you transit there, many over the counter meds in this list, including cough medicine and travellers anti diarrhoea tabs.

List of controlled pharmaceutical substances in UAE

May 16 2008 UAE has a very strict, zero-tolerance anti-drugs policy. If you can get by without medication, it is safest to leave it at home if you are travelling to or through UAE.
While many other countries also apply controls to the following drugs, UAE is unusual in conducting extremely thorough searches of many travellers through its airports, with highly sensitive equipment.
If you must take medication, make sure:
1. It is not on the banned ‘Narcotics’ list;
2. You have a prescription for it – even if you bought it over-the-counter.
Key
• UAE has identified a group of drugs with the potential to lead to addiction if not controlled. These are listed in Schedules to the Federal Law No 14 of 1995, and the medicines which come under this classification are divided into the following categories.
• How a drug will be treated, and the penalties for possession will depend on its classification.
• In certain cases, UAE will take a stricter view of a drug than other countries might do. In some cases, such as antidepressants, this is because the UAE authorities have deemed it to be an addiction risk and have classified the drug as a narcotic, where other countries might treat it as a psychotropic. In others, UAE will impose controls on a drug because of its purpose, as in the case of drugs which can be used to bring about an abortion.
Narcotics
• These are Controlled substances under Schedules 1-6 of the UAE Federal Law 14 of 1995.
• They may not be imported into UAE. Possession of these drugs, with or without a prescription, may lead to a prison sentence.
• In addition to the medications listed below, this category includes cannabis, cocaine and opiates, from heroin to poppy seeds (the kind used in everyday baking).
Controlled Drugs Class A - Psychotropics
• These are drugs for which a prescription must be held. The more verifying paperwork from the authorising doctor which can accompany any drug in this category, the better. In UAE, they can only be dispensed upon production of a registered (health authority-approved) prescription.
• They include some common sleeping tablets, painkillers, anti-depressants and hormone replacement therapy
Controlled Drugs Class B – Controlled medicines
• Possession of these drugs must be accompanied by a prescription. Many of these drugs are available over-the-counter in other countries and travellers to or through UAE should ensure they obtain a prescription before carrying any of these drugs to that country.
• They include many common cold and cough remedies

From the General Authority for Health Services Guide to the Management of Controlled Drugs in the Private Sector, March 2007
This is the most recent, comprehensive list of controlled pharmaceuticals we have been able to find. The UAE does not publicise this list on any of its diplomatic or ministerial websites. We have written to the UAE Ambassador and Customs Minister asking them to do so, so that travellers can be better prepared before flying to that country.
While every effort has been made to verify the contents of this list, where in doubt, we advise travellers to check their medication with the UAE consulate before travel.
Narcotic (Active ingredients)
Alfentanil
Amphetamine
Buprenorphone
Codeine
Fentanyl
Ketamine
Methadone
Methyphenidate
Morphine
Pentazocine
Pethidine
Remifentanil
Sufentanil

Controlled Drug Class A - Psychotropics (Active ingredients)

Acitretin
Alprazolam
Aripiprazole
Bromazepam
Buprenorphine 200 (microgram tablets and 500 microgram injection)
Butorphanol
Chlopromazine
Chlordiazepoxide
Clobazam
Clonazepam
Clorazepate
Diazepam
Dihydrocodeine
Droperidol
Flumazenil
Flupentixol
Fluphenazine
Haloperidol
Isotretinoin
Lorazepam
Medazepam
Mephenoxalone
Midazolam
Misoprostol
Nalbuphine
Olanzapine
Phenobarbitone
Pimozide
Prazepam
Prochlorperazine
Propofol
Prostaglandin
Quetiapine
Risperidone
Sulpiride
Sultopride
Temazepam
Thiopentone
Tiapride
Tramadol
Trfluoperazine
Zaleplon
Ziprasidone
Zolpidem
Zuclopenhtixol
Controlled Drug Class B (Active ingredients)
Amitriptyline
Baclofen
Benzhexol
Biperiden
Buspirone
Carisoprodol
Citalopram
Clomipramine
Codeine
Cyclobenzaprine
Dextromethorphan
Diphenoxylate
Dotheipin
Duloxetine
Escitalopram
Estradiol
Ethinylestradiol
Etonogestrel
Fluoxetine
Flupenthixol
Fluvoxamine
Imapramine
Isotretonin
Lithium Carbonate
Maprotiline
Menotrophin
Meserolone
Methocarbomol
Mianserin
Milnacipran
Minaprine
Mirtazapine
Moclobemide
Naltrexone
Nandrolone
Nefazodone
Norethisterone
Norethisterone
Norgetrol
Noscapine
Octreotide
Oestradiol
Opipramol
Orphenadrine
Oseltamivir
Oxazepam
Paroxetine
Pholcodine
Pimecrolimus
Procyclidine
Propoxyphene (with paracetemol
Pyrisuccideanol
Reboxetine
Sertraline
Somatrophine
Testosterone
Ticlopidine
Tizanidine
Tretinoin
Trimipramine
Vecuronium
Venlafaxine

Appendix 2 Common UAE controlled drugs (Trade names)
The following list shows some of the TRADE names of those controlled items that are registered as medicines in the UAE
Narcotics
Ketalar
Physeptone
Ritalin
Sosegon
Subutex
Ultiva
Controlled Drugs Class A - Psychotropics
Abilify
Anexate
Arthrotec
Ativan
Barnetil
Buccastem
Clopixol
Cytotec
Deanxit
Dehydrobenzperidol
Demetrin
DHC continues
Dialag
Diapam
Diprivan
Dogmatil
Dormicum
Dorsilon
Frisium
Gardinal
Genprid
Haldol
Intraval
Largactil
Lexotanil
Limbitrol
Neotigason
Nobrium
Noctran
Nubain
Orap
Prolixin
Propess
Risperdal
Rivotril
Serenace
Seroquel
Sonata
Stadol
Stelazine
Stemetil
Stesolid
Stilnox
Tekam
Temgesic
Tiapridal
Tramal
Tramundin
Tranxene
Valium
Xanax
Zaldiar
Zeldox
Zyprexa

Controlled Drugs Class B

123 Cold
Actifed Compound
Actifed DM
Activelle
Adol Cold
Adol Compound
Adumbran
Akineton
Algaphan
Anafranil
Andriol
Artane
Athymil
Aurorix
Benxtrone
Bepro
Broncholar
Broncholar forte
Bronchophane
Buspar
Cancolite
Cantor
Cipralex
Cipram
Climen
Codaphen
Codaphen plus
Codilar
Codipront
Codis
Coldex-dD
Cymbalta
Deca durabolin
Decutan
Dextrocuf
Dextrolag
Diarsed
Diaxine
Dicton
Distalgesic
Edronax
Efexor
Elidel
Estracomb
Estrofem
Faverin
Femoston
Flexiban
Flozak
Fluanxol
Flumed DM adult
Fluneurin
Fluoxone
Fluran
Flutin
Fluxetyl
Genotropin
Insidon
Intard
Ixel
Kafosed
Kemadrin
Kliogest
Lagaflex
Linz
Lioresal
Lomotil
Ludiomil
Menogen
Muscadol
Myogesic
Noracod
Norcuron
Norditropin
Norflex
Norgesic
Nuvaing
Oxetine
Paracodol
Phensedyl
Primotestone
Progyluton
Prothiaden
Proviron
Prozac
Remeron
Revacod
Rhinotussel
Riaphan
Roaccutane
Robaxin
Robaxisal
Robitussin-CF
Romilar
Saizen
Salipax
Sandostatin
Saroten
Sedofan DM
Sedofan-P
Seroxat
Serzone
Sirdalud
Somadryl compound
St Joseph cough
Sterandryl
Stivane
Surmontil
Sustanon
Tamiflu
Ticlid
Tixylix
Tofranil
Trexan
Tripofed dm
Trisequens
Tryptizol
Tuscalman
Tussifin with codeine
Unified DM
Vesanoid
Virormone
Zoloft
For more information you can also contact:-
UAE Embassy Medical Department
71 Harley Street,
LONDON,
W1G 8DE
Phone: 02074866281


© Fair Trials International 2011
Registered charity no. 1134586

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Why did you highlight some drugs in red Taxexile? Are those the meds you're taking?

common enough stuff for long haul travellers to have, valium and dormicum.

cough meds and anti diarrhoeals likewise.

think of the list as a public service announcement, stop your whining and say thank you.