Queen's Bid For Poverty Grant Slammed

[English Noodles]

The Queen has been criticised after a freedom of information request revealed she tried to use an anti-poverty grant to heat her palaces.



The Queen receives £38.2m a year from taxpayers



A senior Royal aide wrote to the Government in 2004 asking whether Her Majesty would be eligible for a handout from a £60m energy-saving fund.
He complained that the cost of keeping the Queen and her staff warm had doubled to £1m a year, and the £15m Government grant to maintain her palaces was inadequate.
But the request to replace four combined heat and power (CHP) units at Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle was turned down, according to documents obtained by The Independent under the the Freedom of Information Act.
In an apologetic email to the Palace, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport explained that the handouts were meant to help low-income families.
The official also expressed concern that if the Queen was handed money out of the poverty fund it would lead to "probable adverse press coverage".
The email said: "I think this is where the Community Energy Funding is directed and ties in with most allocations going to community heating schemes run by local authorities, housing associations, universities etc.


Royal aides were worried about the cost of heating Buckingham Palace


"I also feel a bit uneasy about the probable adverse press coverage if the Palace were given a grant at the expense of say a hospital.
"Sorry this doesn't sound more positive."
Graham Smith, a spokesman for Republic, a campaign group calling for the monarchy to be scrapped, told Sky News Online: "It's appalling, it's the most crass thing I have ever heard in my life.
"The anti-poverty grant is meant to go to needy people - and the idea that the Palace can take money from the poor to bankroll the rich is disgusting."
The news also caused anger on internet forums. One poster, Tony Martin, said: "It's worse than the Dickensian days where the evil rich minority trampled on the poor."
A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman declined to comment on the application.
The documents show the Freedom of Information requests were initially refused.
The Royal email had asked: "Community Energy can fund up to 40% of the capital costs of implementing a community heating scheme.
"Since we are already grant-in-aid funded (the Queen receives £15m a year for the upkeep of her palaces) we would like to know whether the Household [would] be able to benefit from these grants. I look forward to your comments."
The Queen receives £38.2m a year from the Government, including £7.9m for the Civil List, which covers her personal spending and staff salaries.


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[hazz]

I suppose the aid would not be doing his job, if he didn't try and poverty is relative, compared to her peers she isn't rich (:

[Butterfly]

she is the head of state, and like all head of state, they are expensive to maintain

how much do you think it cost to maintain certain president in their "palace" ?

[Norton]

how much do you think it cost to maintain certain president in their "palace" ?

Can't be much. Not very grand.

[keda]

I'd take something from the public trough and give it to m'lady rather than sheepishly hand it over to a bunch of parasites.

[jandajoy]

I believe the country makes far more out of her from tourism than she costs.

[saeb]

A more murderous, conniving, 'change the rules as I want' bunch of gangsters you have ever seen in history. One does wonder if they don't have quite enough loot already?. Hey, they can always sell some of that land or properties they own around Blighty and indeed in the Colonies to support their disfunctional lifestyles.

Walk round the back of Buck Palace on a January morning whilst the piper is waking her queenship up for her morning tea and see in St., James park the hundreds of people living in frost covered cardboard boxes?. Think she gives a shit?.

I have met three of them and they should still be in remedial school except one of them is thankfully demised.
1. I was on INF with Prince Randy Andy - took the Air Force 1 month to get rid of that thick [at][at][at][at] and send him to the Navy where his 'Daddy' would take care.

2. Church parade holding a .303 at present arms for 20 mins (Try it), cos' the now happily dead black toothed old winey could inspect us. She was so drunk she had to hang on to someone and asked one of the line up which Regiment we were in.
Cumulative thought, 'Pity, no live rounds in the magazines'.

3. Hereself, herself, stood at RAF ********** for parade / Inspection by her Queenship as brand new shiny wee Air Force Pilots and present 'Swords in salute'.
(You gotta try this crap), been raining all morning and we were in No.1 uniforms (sometimes called no.5 by the cynics - but we had to pay for them), cow didn't even stop the car but just drove past. Whole lot of potential Jag, Phantom, Shack, and Hawk pilots working out how to do an accidental release over Balmoral after that.

Tourists bring income to take pics of a very large house and very expensive house in London?. Methinks not sunshine. Can you imagine a Thai or Chinese thinking, "Right I'm going to spend a whole lot of money to buy a wee Union Jack and take pictures of Her Liz and poncy dogs house?". Get a life sunshine.

[Marmite the Dog]

Saeb; you're an ignorant twat.

I believe the country makes far more out of her from tourism than she costs.

Yes. An awful lot more.

I'd take something from the public trough and give it to m'lady rather than sheepishly hand it over to a bunch of parasites.

And I'm sure most real Brits would agree.

[Begbie]

Saeb; you're an ignorant twat.

I believe the country makes far more out of her from tourism than she costs.

Yes. An awful lot more.

You got a link for that you forelock tugging lackey ?

I thought not. Always makes me laugh to see the fawning sycophancy of the english lower orders.

[saeb]

Marmite,
One does note your Avatar - a Wee schoolie girl giving the finger. Hmmmmm...
I assume you enjoy eating faggots, (Minced up testicles from lambs in gravy) a good fodder from those born within the sound of Bow Bells and who enjoyed working in Billingsgate fish market for thruppence farthing a day to deliver the goodies to the rich folks.

I do hope you enjoy your lack of education, medical care, and your ability to present your arsehole to anyone who you may think to be one rank up the social ladder than you. Prepared to be reamed old chap, and don't sell your story - they'll buy you off. They always do.

What a twat - how much money does Scotland make every year from tourism?.
How much from the queeny gits?. Numbers please - facts. Thank you very big.

Oh and bend over, I believe Prince Chuck needs to fart. Peasant.

[jandajoy]

Can you imagine a Thai or Chinese thinking, "Right I'm going to spend a whole lot of money to buy a wee Union Jack and take pictures of Her Liz and poncy dogs house?".

But they do. By the tens of thousands.

bye the bye, do you really need to be so very unpleasant?

Have a welcoming red.

[Jools]

Your rancor towards the Queen and the Royal Family is a bit over the top....and disturbing. Has Her Majesty done anything to harm you personally??? A little respect never hurt.

A more murderous, conniving, 'change the rules as I want' bunch of gangsters you have ever seen in history. One does wonder if they don't have quite enough loot already?. Hey, they can always sell some of that land or properties they own around Blighty and indeed in the Colonies to support their disfunctional lifestyles.

Walk round the back of Buck Palace on a January morning whilst the piper is waking her queenship up for her morning tea and see in St., James park the hundreds of people living in frost covered cardboard boxes?. Think she gives a shit?.

I have met three of them and they should still be in remedial school except one of them is thankfully demised.
1. I was on INF with Prince Randy Andy - took the Air Force 1 month to get rid of that thick [at][at][at][at] and send him to the Navy where his 'Daddy' would take care.

2. Church parade holding a .303 at present arms for 20 mins (Try it), cos' the now happily dead black toothed old winey could inspect us. She was so drunk she had to hang on to someone and asked one of the line up which Regiment we were in.
Cumulative thought, 'Pity, no live rounds in the magazines'.

3. Hereself, herself, stood at RAF ********** for parade / Inspection by her Queenship as brand new shiny wee Air Force Pilots and present 'Swords in salute'.
(You gotta try this crap), been raining all morning and we were in No.1 uniforms (sometimes called no.5 by the cynics - but we had to pay for them), cow didn't even stop the car but just drove past. Whole lot of potential Jag, Phantom, Shack, and Hawk pilots working out how to do an accidental release over Balmoral after that.

Tourists bring income to take pics of a very large house and very expensive house in London?. Methinks not sunshine. Can you imagine a Thai or Chinese thinking, "Right I'm going to spend a whole lot of money to buy a wee Union Jack and take pictures of Her Liz and poncy dogs house?". Get a life sunshine.

[saeb]

You seem to be a bit out of sorts: Now, can you just imagine a bunch of Chinesy folks or Russkis, or French or Germans saving up their holiday loot to go and wave at Buck (Largest housing dole cheque on the planet), rather than have a wee look around the scenery and intinerent folks as wot' live in Blighty.

Goodness me - one thinks that you did attend a public school with Catholic 'Maaaaasters'. Confused, that's what you are. Don't worry, there is treatment available to tighten up that ringpiece so you can be a born again virgin.

Naw - I'm not impolite in the least, I've got lot's of witness to that fact, but I work in big boy land and not wee spaz flag waving up the empire crap.
I've guessed already - Chelsea shirt and favourite bar in Shitsville, 'The Dogs Bollocks'?. Gosh, you hard fucks scare me to death. You seem like an amusing creature and I look forward to pertaining to try some basic social education in your direction. Got to be up in six hours - one does have to fly, literally.
Pip - Pip.

[Ningi]

saeb why so bitter, if you didnt want to serve queen and country why join the forces,never had a member of the royal family inspect us on church parade, and in 13 years service never heard of rifles being carried on church parade especially the .303 , seeing as they were withdrawn about 61/62puts you in about my age bracket, I bet you dont refuse your govt pensions though

[Jools]

Fok, laddie....You are a hard case.

You seem to be a bit out of sorts: Now, can you just imagine a bunch of Chinesy folks or Russkis, or French or Germans saving up their holiday loot to go and wave at Buck (Largest housing dole cheque on the planet), rather than have a wee look around the scenery and intinerent folks as wot' live in Blighty.

Goodness me - one thinks that you did attend a public school with Catholic 'Maaaaasters'. Confused, that's what you are. Don't worry, there is treatment available to tighten up that ringpiece so you can be a born again virgin.

Naw - I'm not impolite in the least, I've got lot's of witness to that fact, but I work in big boy land and not wee spaz flag waving up the empire crap.
I've guessed already - Chelsea shirt and favourite bar in Shitsville, 'The Dogs Bollocks'?. Gosh, you hard fucks scare me to death. You seem like an amusing creature and I look forward to pertaining to try some basic social education in your direction. Got to be up in six hours - one does have to fly, literally.
Pip - Pip.

[saeb]

Wot' cha' mean they withdrew .303's in 61 / 62?. Cripes - was that about the time you finished your National Service?.I gained my official marksman status on the 200 yard range at Henlow in 1976 using a .303. (SLR was fun but the .303 was a sight more accurate).

Church parade?. Crathie Church, Crimbo Royal Incestous Bun fight. 1976. Bunch of tossers dressed up in their kilts and all drunk by 10am. What is that third verse from 'Rule Brittania', again?. I joined up to fly as civil operators were not offering scholarships at that time and no way my Mum had the loot to pay for me to go it alone - so I put up with the bullshit for four and a half years, had a few great laughs and really enjoyed the flying, but got out as soon as my sorry ass could get a better job.

Dying for queen and Country doesn't really work for me, however do not ever try to play grab arse with Mrs Saeb or fair thee weel young loon.

[keda]

You seem to be a bit out of sorts: Now, can you just imagine a bunch of Chinesy folks or Russkis, or French or Germans saving up their holiday loot to go and wave at Buck (Largest housing dole cheque on the planet), rather than have a wee look around the scenery and intinerent folks as wot' live in Blighty.

Goodness me - one thinks that you did attend a public school with Catholic 'Maaaaasters'. Confused, that's what you are. Don't worry, there is treatment available to tighten up that ringpiece so you can be a born again virgin.

Naw - I'm not impolite in the least, I've got lot's of witness to that fact, but I work in big boy land and not wee spaz flag waving up the empire crap.
I've guessed already - Chelsea shirt and favourite bar in Shitsville, 'The Dogs Bollocks'?. Gosh, you hard fucks scare me to death. You seem like an amusing creature and I look forward to pertaining to try some basic social education in your direction. Got to be up in six hours - one does have to fly, literally.
Pip - Pip.

Hi saeb, you have the makings to fit right in here, we have a strong support group for hate filled losers.

By the way, though the Brit royals clearly do not meet with your standards of integrity, which other royals would you approve of if any, and please explain why so we can all have a good larf.

[kmart]

The peasants seem to be revolting.

[Jet Gorgon]

Good on ya, Lads, for standing your ground. I love the Queen. She does pay taxes now, does she not? And, yes, many think the Queen lives in the whole bladdy palace and throws grand parties every night for her pals, when in fact, she lives in a small apartment and is forced to entertain a bunch of fekin worldwide wankers. Every tourist to the UK goes to Buck Palace, watches the Changing of the Guards (saeb could never handle that job; he'd cry at wearing the bear hat and couldn't handle the standing at attention), and buys millions of Queen-related trinkets. Besides, she didn't ask for charity; her office asked if she -- as a taxpayer -- would be eligible for the energy-payment reductions. Sounds fair to me.
God Save the Queen.

[Humbert]

Fancy window dressing but what would Britain be without it?

[Begbie]

The peasants seem to be revolting.

Well our own TD fawning peasants are fairly unpleasant, though revolting is a bit strong.

Programming from a very young age by school, television and tabloids, it works on the thick ones.

[Tom Sawyer]

Obviously this is an exagerated story. An official at Buck House seeks criteria for available green energy grants to replace energy-inefficient and costly boilers in the various palaces and he is told he's looking at the wrong fund and needs to go to the institutional incentive scheme, as this one is meant for underprivileged families. Big deal. The rest is a torque-job by the tabloids.

[Thaiguy]

3. Hereself, herself, stood at RAF ********** for parade / Inspection by her Queenship as brand new shiny wee Air Force Pilots and present 'Swords in salute'.
(You gotta try this crap), been raining all morning and we were in No.1 uniforms (sometimes called no.5 by the cynics - but we had to pay for them), cow didn't even stop the car but just drove past. Whole lot of potential Jag, Phantom, Shack, and Hawk pilots working out how to do an accidental release over Balmoral after that.

Tourists bring income to take pics of a very large house and very expensive house in London?. Methinks not sunshine. Can you imagine a Thai or Chinese thinking, "Right I'm going to spend a whole lot of money to buy a wee Union Jack and take pictures of Her Liz and poncy dogs house?". Get a life sunshine.[/quote]

Good Christ when I read crap like this I am really convinced that contraception is a national necessity - are you really so tunnel visioned?.
Have you never been to a rock concert and seen the show effects and costumes that bring the punters in ?
The monarchy are no different , those that don't have this spectacular come in their droves to see the show and pay billions for the privilige
It's simply a rock show on the grandest scale..
Why not kick in to heat the Palaces that bring the crowds - better that than waste a heap of money on "hand out Harries" and bloody illegals.
As for the Chinese and Thais buying souvenirs , why not ? don't our tourists buy a heap of souvenirs and visit places of National Pride ? ie "The Forbidden City " , Temple of the Jade Buddha etc, etc. - the biggest difference is the majority can't afford the cost of a holiday or tour.

[saeb]

Look Guv' there is no way anyone would describe me as 'Hate filled', wot a bleedin' larf. Judging by your avatar too many chappatis have gone down your craw and refuse to release from your colon. I am assured that prune juice can be helpful in your case.

Good, you love the most massive dole shirkers in the U.K., and I assume read the red tops complaining about someone ripping off a couple of hundred quid?. One assumes you do live in Pattaya (Shittsville) and wear a Chelsea shirt whilst working under the radar as a knock off plumber?.

Anyway, go stuff a few more chappatis down your neck and dream of a good dump. One day.

[Attilla the Hen]

I'm British and republican.
Hope the monarchy ends after Betty curls her toes up.

Monarchy in this day and age is obsolete.