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    Restaurant Workers Kill Robber

    The Cherokee County Sheriff's Office (South Carolina, USA) tells News Channel 7 no charges will be filed against the Sonny's Restaurant employees who fired at the suspected robbers.
    16-year-old Michael Davidson was shot to death after an attempted armed robbery ended in gunfire.




    One of the few things I still proud about with America are our gun laws and the fact we can use them. Unlike Britain, victims who fight back and even kill intruders or robbers are congradulated by the cops, not arrested or prosecuted.

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    Yeah but in England the 16 year old would most likely not have had a gun in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs
    Yeah but in England the 16 year old would most likely not have had a gun in the first place
    Yeah but he'd probably have kicked some poor unfortunate person to death instead. Then blamed it on his upbringing to get a lighter sentence. Does it really matter in what was used ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs
    Yeah but in England the 16 year old would most likely not have had a gun in the first place
    Yeah but he'd probably have kicked some poor unfortunate person to death instead.
    And they would not even think to enact a size 10 shoe ban either.

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    I doubt he would have had time to kick anyone to death in the middle of a robbery.

    If you expect to be met with guns, you take a gun. If you don't expect to be shot at then you don't take a gun as the risk and penalty make it not worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs View Post
    If you expect to be met with guns, you take a gun. If you don't expect to be shot at then you don't take a gun as the risk and penalty make it not worthwhile.
    hardly the case madjbs. this is not the chicken and egg issue. ammendments allowing the right to carry arms were written rights to allow for protection of self and belongings.

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    arms

    hardly the case madjbs. this is not the chicken and egg issue. ammendments allowing the right to carry arms were written rights to allow for protection of self and belongings.

    You are incorrect.

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

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    Want to kill someone in America?

    Invite them over to your place. Murder them. Tell the police they were robbing the place.

    What a country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairman Mao View Post
    Want to kill someone in America?

    Invite them over to your place. Murder them. Tell the police they were robbing the place.

    What a country.
    It ain't that easy. Remember a NYC shop owner who installed an electric grate on his roof and electrocuted a burglar?

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    How about Canada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chairman Mao View Post
    Want to kill someone in America?

    Invite them over to your place. Murder them. Tell the police they were robbing the place.

    What a country.
    Dear CM:

    Having Canadian 'roots', I've always been fascinated by the social and economic progress achieved by the USA's northern (conservative/socialistic) neighbor. Some behavioral anthropologists consider Canadians to be the happiest people in the entire western hemisphere (I should add that [at] 3 out of 4 Canadians live within 100 miles of the USA border). Only rarely do they shoot bullets at one another.

    I would enjoy to read your thoughts on such matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    victims who fight back and even kill intruders or robbers are congradulated by the cops, not arrested or prosecuted.
    How do you know they were the victims Bob?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairman Mao View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    victims who fight back and even kill intruders or robbers are congradulated by the cops, not arrested or prosecuted.
    How do you know they were the victims Bob?

    Because they were working in the restaurant when the crominals came into rob them. If you want to disagree without whether or not people should be allowed to defend their property that is one thing, but this response makes no sense.
    Also you cannot invite someone over and kill them. There is some investigation and if that was found to be the case, there wold be a prosecution. A dead robber is no loss to anyone.

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    Finding 12 jurors in South Carolina that would convict the shooters would be near impossible. Why would they waste their time trying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs
    If you expect to be met with guns, you take a gun.
    At a restaurant ?

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    If that happened in the UK the killers would be jailed





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    Quote Originally Posted by superman
    At a restaurant ?
    Well it appears that he was shot by the restaurant owner, so yes....

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    In Britain we use guns with the word replica written on the barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    If that happened in the UK the killers would be jailed
    Although the UK has gone loopy, I still don't think you would be jailed for protecting yourself against an armed robber. Convictions in the past have been been against people killing unarmed intruders, shooting them as they ran away etc..

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    I hear Muslim Lawyers are now all the rage in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs
    Well it appears that he was shot by the restaurant owner, so yes....
    I read that two of the employees of the restaurant did the shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown
    And they would not even think to enact a size 10 shoe ban either
    Or leg.

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    A robbery doesn't justify the untimate penalty of a death sentence.

    He was only sixteen & it was only a little bit of money. It wouldn't have hurt anybody to just give him the cash.

    Gun law - you can stick it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overman View Post
    A robbery doesn't justify the untimate penalty of a death sentence.

    He was only sixteen & it was only a little bit of money. It wouldn't have hurt anybody to just give him the cash.

    Gun law - you can stick it.
    If gun laws had prevented everybody at the scene from having guns no one would be dead.

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    It was armed robbery, you go in with guns you expect what happens.



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    An armed robbery justifies an armed response- were they supposed to wait and hope he didn't shoot and kill them?

    A sixteen-year-old can shoot you dead just as easily as someone older- if you're dumb enough to pull a gun, you had better be ready for the possible consequences- nobody is going to ask to see your ID and give you a 'pass' if you're a teenager.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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