Thread: Why work when I can get £42,000 in benefits

Originally Posted by Blake7

I thought that in order to sign on you had to be actively seeking work? After the publication of this story and his admission that he is not seeking employment surely there are grounds to deny any dole money to him?

Reading through a copy of a local, free newspaper once a week, is classed as looking for work. Although this bloke is probably on incapacity benefit for some made up reason, which is the biggest scourge on taxpayers not unemployment benefit. The 2.5 mill in the UK on incapacity benfit ain't counted in the unemployment figure, and they reckon 1/3 of people getting it are bogus, some reckon as high as 2/3, i personally reckon about 90% are bogus though.

Originally Posted by crippen

Overtime pay pushes PCs into £100k earnings bracket

That's 100k (and I'd imagine it's the exception, not the norm). Where does the other 100k come from?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

The 2.5 mill in the UK on incapacity benfit ain't counted in the unemployment figure, and they reckon 1/3 of people getting it are bogus, some reckon as high as 2/3, i personally reckon about 90% are bogus though.

2,5 million on incapacity benefit and 90% are bogus, you are talking through your arse!

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Medical Reasons:
Mental Disorders: 1,013,630 (43%) - quitters
Nervous System: 155,560 (7%) - drama queens
Respiratory/Circulation: 165,730 (7%) - fat smokers
Musculoskeletal: 403,820 (17%) - "Ooh me back!"
Injury or Poisoning: 115,300 (5%) - Alchies and smackheads
Other reasons: 509,000 (22%) - hypochondriac chancers

Spot on, maybe i was a bit low on my estimate of 90% of claiments being bogus.

husband gave up his post in administration nine years ago after realising they would be better off living on the state.

Good for them.

Great to see people being intelligent enough to move forward in life.


If anybody here bitching about them would rather work full-time, for less money then staying at home to raise your family than you're a total bullshitter.

so who here would rather work for less money than not working?

There is fucK all intelligent about what they are doing as parents.

Originally Posted by crippen

Some police officers are earning up to £100,000

Some means a tiny minority, normal constables are unlikely to get anywhere near such a figure.

Originally Posted by crippen

Originally Posted by November Rain

Originally Posted by Donnyrover

cop's on 200k

Which cops are on 200k? You mean highest echelon, I presume, but you're writing as if it's standard rate of pay.

Overtime pay pushes PCs into £100k earnings bracket
Dan Thomas 22 August 2005 12:35


Some police officers are earning up to £100,000 a year, triple their basic salary, by putting in thousands of hours in overtime, it has emerged.
Some police officers are earning up to £100,000 a year, triple their basic salary, by putting in thousands of hours in overtime, it has emerged.

Figures obtained by the Times show that some constables in the Metropolitan Police work on average more than 36 hours a week in addition to their normal duties to cope with an increasing workload.

The leading 20 earners among the Met’s constables and sergeants took home £900,000 in overtime in the last financial year, the newspaper reports.

In its response to the Times’ freedom of information request, the Met said: “These roles, by their very nature, require officers to work long hours.”

The constables in the list obtained by the Times are paid £14.90 an hour, sergeants £16.75 an hour. The basic rate of overtime rate is time and a quarter but can rise to double time.

Even on the maximum, a constable would have to work 36 hours per week overtime to earn £55,960 in overtime. They do this by working on days off and during annual leave. General HR management - Overtime pay pushes PCs into £100k earnings bracket - 22/08/2005

I have serious doubts that these figures are accurate. Under Health and Safety regulations officers are not permitted to work more than 32 hours overtime in any 4 week period (an average of 8 hours o/t per week).

This equates to less than 25% in addition to their annual salary.

Quotes such as 'it has emerged' or 'figures obtained' mean absolutely nothing. I am disappointed with 'The Times' especially when they again quote £16.75 as an hourly rate for Sergeants when the basic hourly rate is much higher.

£100,000 salary? I have serious misgivings over the figures quoted.

I feel sorry for the poor fukcers who work for a living and pay tax and then have to read about this kind of abuse of the system that was intended to look after those who COULDN'T look after themselves.

They'll carry on bleeding the system because they're doing nothing illegal, merely taking what the government, aka the taxpayers, give them. If any government tries to cut their benefits they'll go to the European Court of Human Rights who'll back them up because it's British taxpayer's money.

As I said on another thread, it's time we had a good old far right fascist dictatorship.

Originally Posted by CharleyFarley

There is fucK all intelligent about what they are doing as parents.

Eh?

Have a lower income and less time to raise your children.

Have a higher income and more time to spend raising your children.

Which would you choose Charles?

and which option, if both were granted, would you consider to be the more intelligent to be?

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

husband gave up his post in administration nine years ago after realising they would be better off living on the state.

Good for them.

Great to see people being intelligent enough to move forward in life.


If anybody here bitching about them would rather work full-time, for less money then staying at home to raise your family than you're a total bullshitter.

so who here would rather work for less money than not working?

Fuck morality then... that's the whole problem with the lefty world view... ditching your morals to take revenge on those richer than you - envy instead of inspiration.

I don't blame thick uneducated people for moral hazard in taking a free lunch when offered, I blame the left-wing intellectuals for using them to advance their own careers by setting up a rights culture backed by tax harvesting and distribution racket/infrastructutre, and reinforced by this notion that Tax is a duty that all citizens owe to the state - it isn't. The state belongs to the people, the state has no "right" to tax the citizens - to take their hard earned money and give it to someone else with the threat of imprisonment over them - we have the moral right to tell the state to go and fuck itself... it's about time we had another revolution in Britain to depose leftist statism, and replace it with a culture of entrepreneurship and personal responsibility. The world doesn't owe you a living, and I don't owe you my wages, shitbread. 13 years of Labour has turned me from a Tory to a Republican! I aren't paying tax to fund this shit; I aren't paying tax to fund international development; I aren't paying tax to fund the EU, Quangos, MPs, left-wing brainwashing in the education system, the BBC, refugees, wars in places where we get no oil for our efforts, massive unionised public sectors, local councils, a pointless and ineffective welfare state and state pension, giant wanky IT projects and a surveillance state, police that do fuck all. I aren't payin' for this shit
I want 0 income tax and 50% VAT... I'll pay for what I want, not what some self-important [at][at][at][at] tells me that I want to want.

Nobody with self respect can sit at home milking that much out of the system and have any sense of pride... there is still such a thing as shame, and it'll come out when they try and have a social life and normal people ask a normal question like "What do you do for a living?" ...I'm not a bullshitter when I say I would not want to look into the eyes of my mates and say, "Oh I sit on my arse all day claiming more in benefits than you earn, from your taxes". That [at][at][at][at] is a billy-no-mates sponging little shitweasal. They might say it in jest, but most normal, reasonably intelligent, people would not be able to face their friends and family if they were taking the piss like that - they'd become social pariahs, and you know it.

More daily mail shit to work people up again.

Played like a puppet.

bloody foreignerss, bloody Muslims, bloody scroungers, bloody gingers. It makes me sick.

mostly excellent stuff capt. nemo, but the fact is people openly boast about how much they can milk the system for, they take pride in it, there is no shame anymore.

exactly.

everyone has got their snouts in the trough.

greed, apathy, poor lawmaking and enforcement, lack of responsibility. its brought down many empires before.

the legal community are partially to blame for their complicated and convoluted drafting of legislation which makes succesful prosecution of offenders so difficult ... and so expensive.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Nobody with self respect can sit at home milking that much out of the system and have any sense of pride...

So your 'pride' would result in you earning less money for your children, and give you less time to raise them...

Great parenting there. Make your children worse off and have far less time with their father...

Intelligent.

What else besides pride do you put before your children?

Hand-Out Britain, thank fuck non of my pay cheque is being robbed off me to pay for this shite.

Originally Posted by Itchy

Hand-Out Britain, thank fuck non of my pay cheque is being robbed off me to pay for this shite.

I think the reds should introduce social welfare into Thailand once they get back into power.

Elite taxes paying for Isaaners to sit outside their hut and dine on lao khao and insects all day.

I'm surprised no one has pointed out how incredibly stupid these people are to have given this interview and publicly made the comments they have. It's similar to a thief bragging about his criminal skills. They will almost certainly be singled out for scrutiny just to appease public anger. If you've got a good racket going, do not brag about it.

Hand-Out Britain, thank fuck non of my pay cheque is being robbed off me to pay for this shite.

are you really thai visa guesthouse ?

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Nobody with self respect can sit at home milking that much out of the system and have any sense of pride...

So your 'pride' would result in you earning less money for your children, and give you less time to raise them...

Great parenting there. Make your children worse off and have far less time with their father...

Intelligent.

What else besides pride do you put before your children?

Murdering trolling left-wing pseudo-intellectuals in their beds, might.

Earning?!

Earning?!



Sorry, no, "Great Parenting" is not about how much money you throw at your kids; it's about setting them an example of how to better themselves financially and educationally, and to not be dependent on the crutch of a (s)mothering state.

Intelligence includes grasping the concept of not being dependent on an employer or a state or some other organisation to secure your prosperity, which seems to elude you - you present a false dilemma of choosing indentured penury and subsidised indolence; the other options include working for more by doing your own business; or studying to get a better set of options... this guy is a retard because he's opted to just breed to milk a system originally designed to insure people who work; and in doing so he's tainted the reputation of the whole system for those who would genuinely need it... his next move will probably to go on the sick...

Work is about more than just time and money, social interaction, morale, self-worth due to developing skills, and through helping other people (in many jobs). To just reduce it to time and money is disingenuous, specious, and banal. Maybe you just hate(d) your own job that much that that's all you see it as. Many people's jobs are part of their identity and their sense of purpose in life, more to the point it's cohesive to families and society for kids to have parents they can look up to and feel proud of - "my dad's a <job title>", rather than "my dad's a fucking doley"... you've whole generations of families in some parts where they've lost hope, and petty crime is their only destiny. Do I want that for my kids? No, I've seen their little faces light up when they have something to tell their friends at school - kids have a sense pride too.

Don't confuse correlation with causation - earning less money doesn't automatically equate to having less time with your kids; you don't have to have a TV, a car, and most of the other consumer shit that passes for evidence of happiness.

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Originally Posted by Itchy

Hand-Out Britain, thank fuck non of my pay cheque is being robbed off me to pay for this shite.

I think the reds should introduce social welfare into Thailand once they get back into power.

Elite taxes paying for Isaaners to sit outside their hut and dine on lao khao and insects all day.

I would agree with that, but it doesn't have to be the complete pouring of benefits treacle all over the cracked earth. A reciprocal version of Tax Credits with less of the paperwork would be better. The Thai free healthcare system won't deliver unless the staff are incentivised to give a shit about their patients... it's a huge cultural paradigm shift for them to go from a totally fatalistic plutocracy to one with a safety net.