How to watch NASA bomb the moon live to-day 9/10/2009

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How to watch Nasa bomb the Moon live this afternoon



By Claire Bates
Last updated at 1:30 AM on 09th October 2009

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Astronomers and space enthusiasts around the world are preparing to watch Nasa crash a rocket into the lunar surface this afternoon.

The Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS) will create 'a dimple' a third the size of a football pitch on the Moon at 12.30pm (BST).

It will search for water and ice on our nearest neighbour by crashing into a crater in the Cabeus region near the Moon's South Pole. Anyone can watch the event online through the Nasa TV website.

Watch this space today: An artist's rendering of the LCROSS spacecraft and Centaur separation. The Centaur will make the first impact with the rest of the spacecraft passing through the debris plume four minutes later
The event will also be visible to amateur astronomers across parts of the United States, where it will still be dark. They will need a minimum of a 10in telescope to view the six-mile high plume thrown up from the initial impact.
'The initial explosions will probably be hidden behind crater walls, but the plumes will rise high enough above the crater's rim to be seen from Earth,' said Brian Day, the Outreach Officer on LCROSS.
'This is a wonderful opportunity for citizen scientists to join Nasa in the process of discovery.'
The LCROSS Centaur upper stage rocket will detach and impact first on the surface. It will be followed four minutes later by the LCROSS Shepherding Spacecraft, which will fly through the plume of debris and relay this data back to Earth. It well then crash, creating a second debris plume.

Approximately 350 tonnes of material will be propelled into the sunlight and break down to their basic components, so scientists can study the composition using ground-based telescopes and the Hubble Space Telescope.
'If there's water there, or anything else interesting, we'll find it,' says Tony Colaprete, the mission's principal investigator.

[The Fresh Prince]

Where do they get permission to do this kinda shit? And what time will BST be here? +6 or +7 hours?

[PlanK]

I bet they miss and hit some friendly forces by mistake.

[Takeovers]

Where do they get permission to do this kinda shit?

Why did I expect somebody to post this kind of shit?

[Norton]

Ain't a bomb. Just a big hunk of metal crashing into the surface making the moon dust fly a bit.

Looking for water. If they find some will be no need to have home delivery when the first moon colony is established.

[larvidchr]

Bombs needn't be explosive Norton, I believe the first primitive bombs where made of stone this hunk as you call it will have the same effect as a bomb when it crashes into the moon with 9000 kmh.

Takeovers it is interesting from a scientific point of view and the "us boy's with toy's" view , but will this be first time in history we bomb another planet? or have something similar been tried before on the moon or elsewhere. If it is first time, then even if the purpose is entirely peaceful, it is a significant event on many levels other than the scientific, and the question from FP is valid, who owns the Moon? is it not all of us? is it OK to bomb other planets, should the US have asked the UN for permission for instance ??

[English Noodles]

Where do they get permission to do this kinda shit?

Exactly what I was thinking, who do they (USA) think they are?

Why did I expect somebody to post this kind of shit?

How is it 'shit'?

[PlanK]

https://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...-the-moon.html

[larvidchr]

On the Arctic some contries have now made treaties about what goes on there in the common interest of us all, and I was watching a movie with Will Smith the other day that finishes with his caracter putting a big heart on the surface of the Moon, and it made me think, what if some advertisement company someday have the money and a willing transporter, what is in place to stop them from putting something up there that would change the Moon for all time to come?? is there any agreements in place protecting the Moon ?? I would absolutely hate looking at a big burger up there

^ Ahh thanks Plan B.

[kingwilly]

Where do they get permission to do this kinda shit?

Permisssion? Obama got a note from his mom.

is there any agreements in place protecting the Moon ??

I think there might be attempts to do so, but I think currently we cannot even agree on junk in outer space... which is waaaaaay closer than the moon.

[Norton]

Exactly what I was thinking, who do they (USA) think they are?

Are you French? Jealous cause you failed to get there first to mine the cheese? Bloody yanks.

[The Fresh Prince]

We don't even know if messing around with the moon disrupts things here on earth. Like the tides for example.

[friscofrankie]

Exploration has been going on for centuries. Sometimes it ends up n colonization.

The moon is not owned by any one nation it is NOT owned by ALL nations. It's open territory. "Space the Final Frontier."

Exactly what I was thinking, who do they (USA) think they are?

The guys with the wherewithal to pull this sort of thing off? You think anything of use to come from this experiment might have global benefit?

[Norton]

We don't even know if messing around with the moon disrupts things here on earth. Like the tides for example.

FP, see all them big holes on the moon. Asteroid craters. Moon gets hit with them all the time. Do you really think a rocket motor minuscule in size to your average asteroid is going to effect the earth.

[The Fresh Prince]

^^But it could have global consequences. Don't you think it should be a global decision?

^I've no idea. I'm sure that the NASA scientists have put a shit load of work into the calculations but I was just airing on the side of caution.

[lom]

The moon is not owned by any one nation it is NOT owned by ALL nations. It's open territory.

A bit like the old Wild West isn't it?
I have now fenced this land so I claim it as mine..

[DrivingForce]

Where do they get permission to do this kinda shit? And what time will BST be here? +6 or +7 hours?

NASA doesn't need permission........................................ ........
They own the moon... It is after all our flag that flies there no one else's Russia not withstanding since they never actually 'planted' it..

By that standard it's like the Russians laying claim to the top of the world by laying their flag at the bottom of the Arctic ocean..
Nice thread though and thanks for the info, gonna watch with my boys..

[larvidchr]

The moon is not owned by any one nation it is NOT owned by ALL nations. It's open territory. "Space the Final Frontier."

It's hard to believe that will be allowed to go on, just like the Arctic, when more and more start running around doing strange things the cry for protection and rules of the road will arise.

[friscofrankie]

But it could have global consequences.

Keeping in the mind the post above yours, please answer the question; "such as?"
DO you think it's going to fall out of the sky? break in two?

This isn't the first intentional crash into the moon's surface:

The crater in the center of this image was formed by Apollo 14's Saturn IVB booster. The booster was intentionally impacted into the lunar surface on Feb. 4, 1971. The impact caused a minor "moonquake" that scientists used to learn about the moon's interior structure. Seismometers placed on the surface by Apollo astronauts returned data on the tremor. Credit: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center/Arizona State University

NASA - LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Don't you think it should be a global decision?

Yeah, call a meeting form a committee. Create a coalition!

[Norton]

NASA doesn't need no badges........................................ ........

[DrivingForce]

This isn't the first intentional crash into the moon's surface:

Yeah there was this highly publicized incident way back when..

NASA doesn't need no badges........................................ ........

Here ya go...

[friscofrankie]

A bit like the old Wild West isn't it?

I have now fenced this land so I claim it as mine.

Or the 15 - 16th centuries?
Hell those colonies ahd people living on them! But There's no finces on the Moon, No one is laying claim to it. And anyway;

Global Exploration Strategy Frequently Asked Questions

What is the purpose of the global exploration strategy?

The Global Exploration Strategy, which includes input from more than 1,000 individuals representing 14 of the world's space agencies, as well as non-governmental organizations and commercial interests, was intended to address two overarching issues: "Why we are returning to the moon," and "What we are planning to do when we get there?"

Participation by other nations, as well as commercial interests, is an important aspect of implementing the Vision for Space Exploration. The process of developing a global strategy created an opportunity to explore in greater depth the reasons other countries might have for going to the moon, potential activities associated with lunar exploration, and to understand commercial interest in the overall Vision. The global exploration strategy is the result of a lengthy dialogue among potential stakeholders.

How was the global exploration strategy dialogue conducted?

NASA Administrator Michael Griffin initiated the dialogue in order to discover fresh ideas and gauge international interest in the U.S. agency's plan for implementing the Vision for Space Exploration – particularly with regard to the moon and Mars. From April 2006 through December 2006, NASA and representatives from 13 other space agencies met regularly with non-governmental organizations and private-sector entities to identify goals and objectives, and to begin to understand what exploration of the moon might mean for each nation. NASA coordinated the multilateral discussions. The agency's approach was inclusive.

What space agencies participated?

In addition to NASA, space exploration experts from Australia, Canada, China, the European Space Agency, France, Germany, Great Britain, India, Italy, Japan, Russia, South Korea, and Ukraine participated.

What did the multilateral discussions produce?

The discussions generated agreement on six strategic themes for lunar exploration, 180 possible objectives within those themes, and a draft framework document. More information about the themes and objectives can be found on the Exploration website at www.nasa.gov/exploration. The participants agreed on the themes that answer the question "Why return to the moon?" The themes are:

• 1. Exploration Preparation: To use the moon to prepare for future human and robotic missions to Mars and other destinations
  2. Scientific Knowledge: To pursue scientific activities addressing fundamental questions about Earth, the solar system, the universe and our place in them
  3. Sustained Presence: To extend human presence to the moon
  4. Economic Expansion: To expand Earth's economic sphere to encompass the moon and to pursue lunar activities with direct benefits to life on Earth
  5. Global Partnership: To strengthen existing international partnerships and create new ones
  6. Inspiration: To engage, inspire and educate the public.

The Global Exploration Strategy is a work in progress. It will inform future discussions between NASA and its partners on areas of collaboration and cooperation in the exploration of the moon, Mars, and beyond.

http://http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/news/GES_FAQ.html

Seems like we just got that same old, "IF it's American, it Must be Bad" shit goin' on.

[jimbone]

^^But it could have global consequences. Don't you think it should be a global decision?

Global consequences? Perhaps shedding an amazingly small percentage of it's mass might cause a disruption in the tides, if only the laws of physics didn't prevail on the moon the same as the earth.

It's a hell of an idea to look for water that way. Any don't think for one moment every country is going to be seeing what the results are.

This is totally cool!

[Rural Surin]

Ain't a bomb. Just a big hunk of metal crashing into the surface making the moon dust fly a bit.

Looking for water. If they find some will be no need to have home delivery when the first moon colony is established.

Moon colony, indeed. Run out of earth property to colonize and control.

[English Noodles]

The guys with the wherewithal to pull this sort of thing off? You think anything of use to come from this experiment might have global benefit?

I'm sure if China was doing this instead of the US your opinion would no be the same.

NASA doesn't need permission........................................ ........ They own the moon... It is after all our flag that flies there no one else's Russia not withstanding since they never actually 'planted' it..

And then you ask why so many people around the world dislike the US?