A particle God doesn't want us to discover

[Bangyai]

October 18, 2009

A particle God doesn’t want us to discover

Could the Large Hadron Collider be sabotaging itself from the future, as some physicists say

Explosions, scientists arrested for alleged terrorism, mysterious breakdowns — recently Cern’s Large Hadron Collider (LHC) has begun to look like the world’s most ill-fated experiment.
Is it really nothing more than bad luck or is there something weirder at work? Such speculation generally belongs to the lunatic fringe, but serious scientists have begun to suggest that the frequency of Cern’s accidents and problems is far more than a coincidence.
The LHC, they suggest, may be sabotaging itself from the future — twisting time to generate a series of scientific setbacks that will prevent the machine fulfilling its destiny.
At first sight, this theory fits comfortably into the crackpot tradition linking the start-up of the LHC with terrible disasters. The best known is that the £3 billion particle accelerator might trigger a black hole capable of swallowing the Earth when it gets going. Scientists enjoy laughing at this one.
This time, however, their ridicule has been rather muted — because the time travel idea has come from two distinguished physicists who have backed it with rigorous mathematics.

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Well, God moves in mysterious ways. Just last week he stopped me making a decent rice pudding. Theres a connection somewhere but I'm still doing the maths.

[Butterfly]

another proof of God existence

[Dan]

^ Another? You haven't revealed the first yet.

[Butterfly]

the demonstration is quite simple, but you need a strong background in philosophy and logic

[mordred]

So this is how the world is going to end on December 21, 2012? Good to know.

[Rattanaburi]

God is a pervert.

[Norton]

particle accelerator might trigger a black hole capable of swallowing the Earth when it gets going.

Insha' allah.

[dirtydog]

^^^What? Because of bangyais rice pudding?

[Dan]

the demonstration is quite simple, but you need a strong background in philosophy and logic

Good, off you go.

[Butterfly]

I failed to see how revealing the particle could create a fucking blackhole,

they are just measuring the fucking strings, aren't they ?

[Rural Surin]

another proof of God existence

You're bound and determined to promote and propagate your dogmatic isolation, aren't you Butters. "If it's good for me, must be as well for everyone else". Naturally, originating from a Judaic-Christian source {difficult to remove yourself from intuitive/instinctive indoctrination}, your God - therefore the only God - is a Christian one.

[Marmite the Dog]

they are just measuring the fucking strings, aren't they ?

I thought strings were too small to measure? They measure particles there.

[nidhogg]

Seem this is one of those threads where the wise words of Abraham Lincoln should foremost in ones mind.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt"

[Butterfly]

You're bound and determined to promote and propagate your dogmatic isolation, aren't you Butters. "If it's good for me, must be as well for everyone else". Naturally, originating from a Judaic-Christian source {difficult to remove yourself from intuitive/instinctive indoctrination}, your God - therefore the only God - is a Christian one.

what are you talking about ? you are mixing religion and god again, they are completely different issues. The real god has nothing to do with existing religions

you seem to be horribly confused, Jeff

[Butterfly]

I thought strings were too small to measure? They measure particles there.

they measure a certain particle that is strongly connected to a certain string if I am not mistaken. This is the string that proves it all.

[Marmite the Dog]

I thought strings were too small to measure? They measure particles there.

they measure a certain particle that is strongly connected to a certain string if I am not mistaken. This is the string that proves it all.

The graviton?

[nidhogg]

Sigh.

One (not the only) aim is to search for the Higgs Boson.

[Begbie]

I thought strings were too small to measure? They measure particles there.

they measure a certain particle that is strongly connected to a certain string if I am not mistaken. This is the string that proves it all.

Are you refering to Sparkles ? The super heavy particles predicted by string theory. Whoever thought up that name has a big future in the confectionary advertising business.

[Norton]

I failed to see how revealing the particle could create a fucking blackhole,

Super colliders produce anti matter/particles. So far only able to produce extremely minute amounts. To produce 1 gram of anti matter is currently improbable (cost and time) using Cern’s Large Hadron Collider. Antimatter is 4 orders of magnitude greater than than the equivalent mass of nuclear energy.

Explosion of a few kilos of antimatter would produce one hell of a big hole. Might be a black one.

[Gerbil]

All is explained here: The Large HardOn Collider

[Butterfly]

One (not the only) aim is to search for the Higgs Boson.

so they are trying to prove some that a field in some particle could explain mass in other particles ? the invisible field ? that seems unrelated to the ToE, and strings, even though the weak force is mentioned in both theory. Is the ToE within the standard model ? or is it something different.

CERN - Missing Higgs

[nidhogg]

One (not the only) aim is to search for the Higgs Boson.

so they are trying to prove some that a field in some particle could explain mass in other particles ? the invisible field ? that seems unrelated to the ToE, and strings, even though the weak force is mentioned in both theory. Is the ToE within the standard model ? or is it something different.

CERN - Missing Higgs

Given that the answers to your questions are in the link you provided, why not read the link directly?

[Butterfly]

explanation for dummies

An oft-cited analogy describes it well: Imagine you're at a Hollywood party. The crowd is rather thick, and evenly distributed around the room, chatting. When the big star arrives, the people nearest the door gather around her. As she moves through the party, she attracts the people closest to her, and those she moves away from return to their other conversations. By gathering a fawning cluster of people around her, she's gained momentum, an indication of mass. She's harder to slow down than she would be without the crowd. Once she's stopped, it's harder to get her going again.

This clustering effect is the Higgs mechanism, postulated by British physicist Peter Higgs in the 1960s. The theory hypothesizes that a sort of lattice, referred to as the Higgs field, fills the universe. This is something like an electromagnetic field, in that it affects the particles that move through it, but it is also related to the physics of solid materials.

[Butterfly]

Given that the answers to your questions are in the link you provided,

must have missed the reference to ToE, because I didn't see it mentioned. I think there are two different theories.

[Butterfly]

Explosion of a few kilos of antimatter would produce one hell of a big hole. Might be a black one.

they are not going to explose a few KG of anti-matter they don't have, only trying to reveal one particle with another