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    America - Call for higher circumcision rate

    Call for higher circumcision rate


    Circumcision cut the risk of infection with the herpes virus

    Circumcision should be routinely considered as a way to reduce the risk of sexually transmitted infections, argue US experts.

    They spoke out after research found circumcision significantly cut the risk of infection with herpes and the cancer-causing human papillomavirus.

    Circumcision is known to sharply reduce the risk of HIV infection.
    But the study, featured in the New England Journal of Medicine, failed to convince UK experts.

    All providers who care for pregnant women and infants have a responsibility to assure that mothers and fathers know that circumcision could help protect their sons
    Dr Judith Wasserheit
    University of Washington

    The research, carried out by scientists in Uganda, involved nearly 3,500 men and monitored their sexual activity over a period of up to two years.

    The researchers, from Johns Hopkins University, found circumcision reduced the risk of herpes by 25%, and human papillomavirus (HPV) by a third.

    HPV causes cervical cancer in women, and genital warts in both sexes.

    Circumcision rates have been declining in the US and are lowest among black and Hispanic patients - the groups with the highest rates of HIV, herpes and cervical cancer.

    Writing in the journal, Dr Matthew Golden and Dr Judith Wasserheit, from the University of Washington, said: "These new data should prompt a major reassessment of the role of male circumcision not only in HIV prevention but also in the prevention of other sexually transmitted infections."

    Dr Wasserheit went on to say: "All providers who care for pregnant women and infants have a responsibility to assure that mothers and fathers know that circumcision could help protect their sons from the three most common and most serious viral sexually transmitted infections, all of which cannot currently be cured."

    UK scepticism

    The reason why a foreskin might increase the risk of infection with various viruses is unclear.

    However, research has suggested that a man with a damp penis has a greater risk of being infected by HIV.

    Various reasons for this have been put forward, including wetness allowing viruses to stick more easily to the penis, or creating tiny ulcers on the surface of the penis through which a virus might enter.

    Dr Colm O'Mahony, a sexual health expert from the Countess of Chester Foundation Trust Hospital in Chester, said the US had an "obsession" with circumcision being the answer to controlling sexually transmitted infections.

    He said: "Sure, a dry skinned penis is a bit less likely to contract HIV, herpes and possibly genital warts but it will get infected eventually."

    Dr O'Mahony also said pushing circumcision as a solution sent the wrong message.

    "It suggests that it is women who infect innocent men - let's protect the innocent men.

    "And it allows men who don't want to change their irresponsible behaviour to continue to sleep around and not even use a condom."

    Keith Alcorn, from the HIV information service NAM, also warned against a knee jerk reaction.

    He said: "We have to be careful not to take evidence from one part of the world and apply it uncritically to others.

    "Male circumcision will have little impact on HIV risk for boys born in the UK, where the risk of acquiring HIV heterosexually is very low.

    "Girls can be vaccinated against HPV and so protected from cervical cancer, and condoms protect against herpes."


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    Heh...must be some women's league up in arms about how white American's Johnsons are so long they now want to cut some of them down, eh?
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    its all ajewish conspiracy !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    a dry skinned penis
    sounds like a gastronomical preparation

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    Just learn basic hygiene and safe sex . . . like the rest of the developed world.

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    We could start doing ip produced tutorials, ie America ip they get a tutorial on how to wash their penis, we could be helping to save lives

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    Penn and Teller's Bullshit a U.S. based TV show did a report on circumcision awhile back. Their conclusion was that that the medical benefits were not as high as scientists claim. They also interviewed several urologists who said they saw no benefit to the practice.

    Personally I've always suspected a loss of sensation as a result of being circumcised.

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    US is ran by the Jews so what do you expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Heh...must be some women's league up in arms about how white American's Johnsons are so long they now want to cut some of them down, eh?
    More like they cant teach you personal hygene so the only solution is to lop off the smelly unwashed bits. You'll always be two stab widget wonders.

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    DIY Circumcision, Americans can circumcise themselves at home

    Tara KLamp

    This is a Malaysian invention which works in a very similar fashion to the Plastibell except that instead of having to tie suture material around a groove in the bell, plastic arms lock into place to force two surfaces into tight contact; with the foreskin trapped between them.

    The device is much more bulky than a Plastibell and remains on the penis for 7 to 10 days until it falls off. If the foreskin is tight, a dorsal slit is required to gain access for the bell to be applied over the glans. The foreskin trapped forward of the clamping device is cut away after the clamp has been in place 20 minutes or so. The glans and frenulum are protected and the frenulum is never cut during this procedure.

    Prior to surgery, at least a local anesthetic is used. The dorsal nerve ring block is my preferred choice. For children, a trial in Manila does give encouragement that EMLA cream does help. Immediately after the surgery and for the next day or two, oral analgesics are required. In addition, we found that the use of oral proteolytic enzymes also help, as swelling proximal to the occlusion is prevented.

    On discomfort, I would feel there could be some discomfort as the patient will have the device on him for a minimum of 4-5 days. However, we get feed-back that patients do not mind that, as they realize that the many benefits that they otherwise obtain, have really taken away their fears etc. and are grateful for that.

    Dr. T. Gurcharan Singh




    The results are similar to the Plastibell when used on a child (moderate to loose). Adults circumcised with the Tara KLamp have reported that the circumcision wound occasionally opens after the KLamp is removed. Naturally healing takes place in this instance, and the circumcision usually heals without further incident. The Tara KLamp has been used on many thousands of boys in Malaysia and other countries where routine pre-adolescent circumcision is the custom, by and large without incident and achieving excellent results from non-medically trained circumcisers.


    Or maybe this one appeals more...


    DIY Circumcision Kit





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    ^ That is so gross it is . . . gross!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    US is ran by the Jews so what do you expect.
    No, mate. The Muslims . . . circumcision etc . . . Remember that Obama is a Muslim as well

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    Yum. This thread is making me hungry. Reminds me of one of my fav breakfasts from my Navy days. Foreskin on toast!


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    Mr. Blinky always gets a shower, as soon as he is finished.....every time he comes out to play.

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    ^But how often does "Mr Blinky" get to play?
    Maybe time to for that DIY circumcision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Yum. This thread is making me hungry. Reminds me of one of my fav breakfasts from my Navy days. Foreskin on toast!

    Never heard "Shit on a Shingle" called that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Alcorn
    Keith Alcorn, from the HIV information service NAM, also warned against a knee jerk reaction. He said: "We have to be careful not to take evidence from one part of the world and apply it uncritically to others. "Male circumcision will have little impact on HIV risk for boys born in the UK, where the risk of acquiring HIV heterosexually is very low.
    Now read through what Keith has said very carefully in the above quote.

    the risk of acquiring HIV heterosexually is very low
    ^Ok so its admitted that it is mainly a gay disease, but think some more about what he has said, basically he says Yanks are all sticking it up each others arses so are extremely high risk, where as in the UK we do normal sex, ie man and lady stuff, so either learn to wash your dick properly each time or go out and treat yourself to a real woman or buy some bloody condoms you faggots

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    [QUOTE the risk of acquiring HIV heterosexually is very low ^Ok so its admitted that it is mainly a gay disease[/QUOTE]

    And he said that in the UK it was low and what he didn't eay was in the USA it is nearly impossible as long as you stay away from San Francisco, so I understand that OK. can do, roger-wilco, over and out

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    I've heard that women don't like giving blow-jobs to anteaters. They much prefer german helmets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen
    I've heard that women don't like giving blow-jobs to anteaters. They much prefer german helmets.
    The ones that give good at blow jobs ain't fussy.

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    OK. can do, rodger wilco, over, inside and out
    This is worrying...

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    First a minister, now a soldier . . . he's fading quickly . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Yum. This thread is making me hungry. Reminds me of one of my fav breakfasts from my Navy days. Foreskin on toast!

    In the UK we fry them, bag them up and sell them as a tasty snack.



    Hula Hoops AKA Fried Foreskins.. yummy.

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    dd seems to know an awful lot about this subject. He needs to start a new thread about foreskin cleaning tutorial.

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