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    It's one of the biggest DoD contracts in a very long time, maybe ever.

    And it went to a rival of the most established aircraft manufacturer in the world -- an American company.

    Of course that has political ramifications.

    And despite all that, it still went to NG. Rings nothing but open, fair, competitive, relatively-transparent to my ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    the latest Russian Fighter Jet. It's unmatched in the world evidently
    wow, that's neat. Incredible manouverability..cheers CT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Rings nothing but open, fair, competitive, relatively-transparent to my ears.
    And up to this point it is. But now you have Boeing crying foul over a Tender it deservedly lost- they thought that, being Boeing, they had the inside run (they did) and would be awarded the contract as a slam dunk. They were wrong- stories are already emerging of their arrogance throughout the Tender process.

    But thats Boeing for you, a company well known for it's dubious ethics. It is the first to call 'foul, free and open competition' when that suits it's purposes. It is also the first to call for protectionism, political cronyism and subsidies when that suits it's purposes. And of course, it's bribery of foreign officials to get lucrative contracts is well known (in fairness, they all do it), as is it's 'revolving door' policy between defence procurement and lucrative jobs at Boeing.

    Hopefully, the US Congress, judiciary and public will not be fooled- it would be a serious blow to US credibility in trade issues. Not to mention, Mobile Alabama can really use the jobs, and Boeings order book is already oversubscribed- they've got ther hands full getting the much delayed B787 off the ground.

    Leave Defence procurement with the DoD I say- otherwise we'll end up in the same boat as all of those lucrative 'no bid' contracts issued by the Bush administration to Halliburton, Carlyle and the likes.

    The ultimate loser, as always, will be the taxpayer.

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    This "complaint" is not much more than solace for Boeing's share holders. Boeing knows quite well that it CANNOT win all major contracts. DOD has a policy of making sure that competition remains in each area of purchase.

    Boeing already has the lion's share of new/current contracts from gov't agencies. They have yet to start heavy delivery of RPVs and have a backlog of other work yet to be accomplished for several agencies.

    The US gov't needs to keep a balance between the major players in airframe delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon View Post
    This "complaint" is not much more than solace for Boeing's share holders. Boeing knows quite well that it CANNOT win all major contracts. DOD has a policy of making sure that competition remains in each area of purchase.
    I agree EG. The issue in Teak Door, however, is not the huge contract awarded to NG, but the resulting, practically frivilous complaint.

    The negativity never ceases to astound me. Nicely done Sabang.

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    Personally, I doubt Boeing wll pull this one off anyway. They were beaten by a better bid. As I say, looks to me like a no win situation for them.

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    I can't recall the last time NG got a contract for an air-frame ( have been away from mil. acft. for a couple of decades), they are more well known for their 'systems' work which has always been pretty good. In fact probably played a huge part in the award.

    Refueling can be a dicey operation and systems quality plays a huge part of it.

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    Safety watchdog CASA grounds 3000 planes

    Article from: AAP

    March 13, 2008 02:36pm

    AS many as 3000 light aircraft - and possibly some small airlines - will be grounded in Australia from midnight after US authorities detected a fault in planes which can cause engine failure.

    The major airlines are not affected but some smaller airlines which ferry miners to remote outposts may be grounded, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) says.

    Many makes and models are affected by the fuel injection problem which was found by US authorities overnight, a CASA spokesman said.

    ``We have acted on it very quickly,'' the spokesman said.

    The fuel injection problem is easy to fix but potentially deadly, he said.

    ``They won't be on the ground for a huge amount of time (but) it can potentially lead to engine failure.''

    CASA wrote to about 1400 operators this morning, alerting them to the problem.

    US authorities have recorded 18 incidents of a gasket inside the fuel injection system failing on some Lycoming engines, some Teledyne Continental reciprocating engines and some Superior Airparts reciprocating engines.

    The engines need to have been rebuilt, serviced, overhauled, repaired or bought new since August 22, 2006 to be affected by the grounding.

    The frustration for small operators will be compounded by CASA's decision to stop any affected plane from flying to a maintenance base to have the problem fixed.

    ``It's going to lead to some aircraft being stranded, mainly in remote areas,'' the spokesman said.

    The CASA airworthiness directive is absolute.

    ``Aircraft are not to be repositioned until compliance with airworthiness directive has been accomplished,'' the directive says.
    News is what someone, somewhere is trying to suppress - everything else is just advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMock
    The frustration for small operators will be compounded by CASA's decision to stop any affected plane from flying to a maintenance base to have the problem fixed. ``It's going to lead to some aircraft being stranded, mainly in remote areas,'' the spokesman said. The CASA airworthiness directive is absolute. ``Aircraft are not to be repositioned until compliance with airworthiness directive has been accomplished,'' the directive says.
    I bet there'll be a lot of small planes flying without authorisation over the next few days...especially in outback Oz...

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    You can bet on that.

    Imagine being told that you cannot even move your plane so that it can be fixed.

    I also imagine there will be a few bosses doing a lot of flying as well if staff decide they wont fly them because they are unsafe.

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    $9 billion massive new Terminal 5 at Heathrow the answer to Heathrow Hassle & BA's route to good margins?

    Heathrow Terminal 5 Feted as Cure to Airport `Hassle' (Update1)
    By Tracy Alloway
    March 14 (Bloomberg) -- London Heathrow reveals its 4.3 billion-pound ($8.76 billion) Terminal 5 today as Queen Elizabeth II opens the first new passenger building at Europe's busiest airport in 22 years.

    ``Terminal 5 is but one small part of what is required if the U.K. is ever to have an airport infrastructure capable of competing with the rest of the world on equal terms,'' said Howard Wheeldon, an analyst at BGC Partners Ltd. in London. ``A third runway at Heathrow and Terminal 6 that are equally badly needed are still a very long way off.''
    The U.K.'s Civil Aviation Authority said in November there's evidence that transfer passengers are eschewing Heathrow for European hubs such as Amsterdam and Frankfurt, which are less crowded and have more runways.
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    from news.com.au yesterday


    A LIGHT plane with four people on board has made an emergency landing at Kununurra Airport.

    A wheel on the Cessna failed to lock into position as the plane, which had earlier taken off from a remote Aboriginal community, approached the airport at about 11am yesterday.

    The pilot circled the town for an hour as emergency services waited on the ground.

    Senior Sergeant Allan Rice, of Kununurra police, said engineers on the ground made the decision to allow the plane to make an emergency landing just after midday.

    "As the plane has touched down its gear has locked into place,'' he said.

    "The plane landed without any drama and a few relieved people have got off safely.''

    Air safety officers are investigating.


    My mate in Kununurra took a photo of the plane. (note the angle of the landing gear)

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    From the BBC

    Alitalia accepts Air France offer

    Alitalia has been losing money for years

    Troubled Italian carrier Alitalia has agreed to be bought by rival Air France for a cut-price 138m euros(£106m:$215m) in a move to save the state airline.

    The Italian government, which holds 49.9% of Alitalia, failed to sell the company by auction in 2007.
    Alitalia has lost money for five years, and has struggled to clinch a buyout.
    Air France-KLM offered one share per 160 Alitalia shares, valuing Alitalia at a low-value 0.10 euros a share.
    That is a 81% reduction on Alitalia's current share price.
    The offer includes plans for a 1bn euro capital injection by the Franco-Dutch airline, which says it will also pay 608m euros to buy back Alitalia bonds.
    The proposed purchase could become a hot topic in Italy's general election, being held on 13 and 14 April.

    'National leader'

    Alitalia, which is struggling under 1.2bn euros of debt, is hoping the tie-up will generate significant savings.
    There are a number of hurdles to be overcome before the deal is sealed. Air France-KLM are seeking support for the move from Italian trade unions.

    The Italian government must also agree to sell its shares, and the country's stock market and European Union competition regulators must also give their backing.
    Air France-KLM has a restructuring plan for Alitalia to enable it "to rediscover the means of its development and to consolidate its status as a national leader".
    And it said Alitalia will maintain its national identity within the Air France-KLM group after the takeover, which could be completed by mid-2008.

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    A380 to make UK commercial debut



    The Airbus A380 "super-jumbo" is due to make its European commercial debut when a flight from Singapore lands at London's Heathrow airport on Tuesday.

    Singapore Airlines is the first carrier to operate the new double-decker aircraft on revenue-earning services.
    Flight SQ308 is due to arrive at Heathrow at 1505GMT.

    British Airways has ordered 12 of the airliners, due to be delivered from 2012, while Virgin Atlantic has ordered six, to arrive from 2013.
    The Singapore Airlines flight is expected to have up to 470 passengers on board, each of whom will receive a personalised certificate to commemorate the historic first flight to the UK.
    The carrier has three A380s in service, with 16 more on order, and has been using them on flights between Singapore and Sydney, Australia, since October 2007.

    Environmental claims

    The A380 made its Heathrow debut in May 2006, when a pre-production aircraft arrived to test facilities.

    Heathrow's owner BAA has constructed a special pier at Terminal 3 to accommodate A380s, which will also be flown to the airport by Dubai-based Emirates.
    Pier 6, as it is known, was completed in 2006 at a cost of £105m and provides space for four of the double-deck airliners.
    Other works, costing more than £340m, had to be carried out on the airfield to allow for operations by the world's largest commercial airliner.


    Runways had to be resurfaced, lighting upgraded and taxiways changed in preparation for the A380.

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    Mobile calls on Emirates flights

    Mobile calls on Emirates flights

    Dubai-based airline Emirates has become the first commercial airline to allow passengers to make mobile phone calls during flights.

    Emirates said the first permitted mobile phone call was made on a flight between Dubai and Casablanca.
    The aircraft, an Airbus A340, is fitted with a system which stops mobiles from interfering with a plane's electronics.
    Emirates plans to extend the system to more aircraft and later this year add BlackBerry and other data services.
    According to the airline, the mobile service will only be activated when the aircraft is at cruising altitude and the cabin crew will be able to monitor and control the use of the system.
    Passengers will be able to receive and send text messages, but the crew will be able to prevent voice calls at certain times, such as during night flights.
    Passengers will also be requested to keep their phones on "silent" mode, said the airline.

    High demand

    Emirates said it decided to introduce the use of mobile phones in its fleet after experiencing high demand for the phones already installed in aircraft seats.
    The airline had to obtain approval from international air safety organisations before adopting the system, which was developed by the AeroMobile company.
    "We have gone to considerable lengths to ensure that all safety and regulatory issues have been fully addressed", said AeroMobile Chief Executive Bjorn-Taale Sandberg.
    Emirates flies to more than 60 countries and is owned by the government of Dubai.



    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Mobile calls on Emirates flights

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    This flew over my house yesterday.


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    LA airport closed by toy grenade
    Article from: Agence France-Presse
    March 27, 2008 06:40am

    A TERMINAL at Los Angeles International Airport was temporarily evacuated early today after luggage scanners detected a toy that looked like a grenade.

    Terminal One was evacuated at 7.20am (1.20am Thursday AEDT) for about 40 minutes before security personnel determined the item at the centre of the alert was a toy, Los Angeles World Airports official Albert Rodriguez said.

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    Stormers 'slap' settles aggressive Qantas passenger

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    March 26, 2008 01:00pm

    THE Stormers will be in enemy territory against the Western Force on Friday night, but the South African rugby team are heroes in the eyes of Qantas crew.

    Smarting from a last-minute loss to the Blues in Auckland, the Stormers were flying from Sydney to Perth on Sunday when an alleged alcohol-affected passenger started causing trouble.

    The cabin crew were having trouble calming the man, so they asked the Stormers' contingent whether they would try to ease his agitation.

    After some initial success by defence coach Brendan Venter, the passenger piped up again - prompting three of the larger Stormers, including young prop Wicus Blaauw, to bring their presence to bear.

    "The crew realised the Stormers are quite big,'' team manager Frikkie Erasmus said.

    "So a few of the boys went back to deal with the guy.

    "He became extremely aggressive and abusive. So that's when one of our number gave him a bit of a slap. That seemed to do the trick.

    "When we landed in Perth the federal police boarded the plane and arrested the passenger and took statements from the players.

    "The crew thanked us for helping out.''

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    Italians Shun Alitalia, Ignoring Berlusconi Plea for Patriotism


    By Marco Bertacche




    July 4 (Bloomberg) -- Lorenzo Schapira tries to avoid flying Italy's near-bankrupt flagship carrier, Alitalia SpA. The planes are run-down and the service is ``appalling,'' he says.

    ``The government should let Alitalia go bust,'' a 52-year- old who runs a disco and a sports club near Milan, said on board an Air One SpA flight home from Rome.

    He's not alone. Travelers interviewed last week at Milan's Linate and Rome's Fiumicino airports said they'd given up on Alitalia and politicians should too. About three-quarters of Italians disapprove of the government's 300 million-euro ($473 million) bailout for the carrier, according to a June 5 online poll published by daily newspaper Corriere della Sera.

    ``Airlines go bankrupt all over the world,'' said Alessandro Rovere, who works in the computer industry in Milan. ``I don't see why Italy shouldn't do the same for Alitalia.''

    State-controlled Alitalia posts losses of about 3 million euros a day. No buyer has surfaced for the carrier since Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said during his election campaign in April that a ``huge'' number of buyers had answered his appeal to keep Alitalia in Italian hands.

    It's ``a question not only of pride but of national security,'' he said April 9 on RAI state radio in Rome.

    The emergency loan, the equivalent of more than 5 euros per taxpayer, is buying little more than three month's worth of oil.

    ``I hoped Berlusconi would stop pouring money into Alitalia,'' said Sara Chiappara, 33, a textbook editor for a Milan publisher. ``It's unbelievable. We've done our part for Alitalia. It's enough.''

    `Last Chance'

    Alitalia Chairman Aristide Police told shareholders on June 28 in Rome that the airline faces its ``last chance'' to avoid bankruptcy. The stock lost almost half of its value this year before it was suspended June 4 pending a sale.

    The government has given Intesa Sanpaolo SpA, Italy's second-biggest bank, until the end of July to come up with a plan to improve the airline's finances.

    Former Chairman Maurizio Prato told labor unions the only thing that could save the airline was an ``exorcist'' after worker opposition to job cuts scuttled takeover talks with Air France-KLM Group in April.

    Even Alitalia's largest labor union, Filt-Cgil, says the current bailout is useless without clear measures to boost market share and make money. Italy has injected about 3 billion euros into Alitalia in the past decade.

    `Drop in Ocean'

    ``The emergency loan is like a drop in the ocean of Alitalia's losses without a relaunch plan,'' said Mauro Rossi, Filt-Cgil's national secretary. ``Alitalia has always been used and abused by politicians for electoral purposes.''

    Airlines around the world are struggling to cope with oil prices above $140 a barrel. At least 24 airlines, including Silverjet Plc of the U.K., have failed this year. Carriers such as United Airlines and Ryanair Holdings Plc are cutting back capacity.

    In Italy, consumers are abandoning Alitalia in spite of a new advertising slogan that tries to make using the carrier a patriotic act: ``Flying Alitalia Makes Italy Fly.''

    ``People think the company has no future,'' said Emanuele Marella, 37, a cheesemaker in Rome. He said he chose Air One because when he booked the night before he paid only 130 euros for a flight to Milan, compared with the 300 euros quoted by Alitalia. ``They need to act quickly.''

    Rome-based Air One, owned by Italian entrepreneur Carlo Toto, controlled 37 percent of the Italian market in 2007.

    `If or When'

    Elio Lannutti, head of Italian consumer association Adusbef and an opposition-party senator, said people lack confidence in Alitalia.

    You ``don't know if or when you'll get to your destination,'' he said. ``There are structural problems with the airline and you can't resolve them with national pride.''

    Bookings at Alitalia dropped 20 percent when the talks with Air France-KLM failed. Traffic plunged 26 percent in April, according to the Association of European Airlines. Alitalia said the decline was worse than expected after taking into account flight reductions.

    Alitalia has said that bookings have recovered, and that it was more punctual and canceled fewer flights than its bigger European rivals. Management has strived to ``guarantee, even in such a difficult context, the airline's operations and an improved service,'' Chairman Police said last week.

    Yesterday, Italian Industry Minister Claudio Scajola said the government would stand by Alitalia while seeking a buyer.

    An ``important country like Italy can't do without a flagship carrier that can compete in international markets, safeguarding national interest, especially for a country where tourism is so important,'' he said.

    Complaints about Alitalia often center on the company's aging aircraft, half of which are MD-80 jetliners, a model that hasn't been produced since 1999.

    Self-Reclining Seats

    An Alitalia official said the company wouldn't comment on its airplanes. The carrier said in 2006 that MD-80s are among the safest planes in the world. Other airlines, including Iberia Lineas Aereas de Espana SA and SAS Group's Scandinavian Airlines, also fly them.

    Alitalia's fleet, including regional and low-cost units, had an average age of 12.4 years at the end of 2007, compared with 8.8 years for Paris-based Air France.

    ``Last time I flew Alitalia for a flight to Berlin the plane was decrepit and seats reclined by themselves,'' Rita Perrone, a tax collector living in Brindisi, said as she prepared to board a flight operated by Air One.

    Bloomberg.com: Exclusive

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    Woman claims drink spiked on Jetstar flight

    March 27, 2008 07:45pm

    A WOMAN claims her drink was spiked on a Jetstar flight to Thailand.

    Former flight attendant Anamaree Correia, 34, told the Seven Network she was on a flight from Sydney to Phuket when her bottle of water was spiked.

    She passed out and later woke to find her dress soaked in urine, she said.

    Ms Correia said she was sitting near three Australian soldiers on the flight.

    Jetstar says it has not received a formal complaint from Ms Correia but will investigate the incident if one is made.

    Ms Correia said she was sitting next to a soldier on the flight, with two of his mates in the seats in front.

    "They were in the Australian Army based in Sydney," she told Seven.

    She had a meal and a small glass of wine at the start of the flight, before going to the bathroom.

    "(I) went off to the bathroom and left my water bottle, as everyone does, you don't think anything of it," she said.

    She returned to her seat, drank the water and started to feel ill.

    "I started feeling this really bizarre hot sensation start from the top of my head," she said.

    "I was just completely paralysed and then I passed out."

    Ms Correia said when she woke up, more than an hour later, she was dazed and her dress was soaked in urine.

    "I was mortified, I was just devastated," she said.

    "It was just a big power trip for them.

    "This doesn't just happen in nightclubs, it can happen anywhere."

    Ms Correia said the Jetstar cabin manager did not encourage her to get the authorities involved.

    But Jetstar said Ms Correia was asked during the flight if she wanted to take the matter further and she declined.

    A spokesman said the cabin crew's report for the flight recorded a passenger falling ill and being taken to a curtained crew area.

    She was offered medical assistance during the flight and when it arrived in Thailand, he said.

    "We've received nothing in respect to a formal complaint from the passenger," he said.

    "If a complaint is brought forward we will look into the matter expeditiously."

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    Woman told to remove nipple ring before flight

    March 28, 2008 08:00am

    A WOMAN in the US says she was forced by airport security guards to remove her nipple rings with a pair of pliers before she could board a flight.

    Mandi Hamlin, 37, is demanding a civil rights investigation, as well as an apology from federal security agents after being forced to remove a nipple ring before boarding a flight from Lubbock to Dallas in Texas.

    During a press conference today, Ms Hamlin said she was scanned by a female Transportation Security Administration (TSA) agent using a handheld detector that beeped when it passed in front of her chest.

    Ms Hamlin told the agent she had nipple piercings. The female agent then called over her male colleagues, one of whom said she would have to remove the body piercings.

    Ms Hamlin said she asked if she could display her pierced breasts in private to the female agent but several other male officers told her she could not board her flight until the jewellery was removed.

    Curtain call

    She was taken behind a curtain and managed to remove one bar-shaped nipple piercing but had trouble with the second, a ring.

    “Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her,” Ms Hamlin's lawyer, Gloria Allred, told the director of the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties.

    Ms Allred, who also represents Paul McCartney's ex-wife Heather Mills, used a nipple ring on a mannequin at the press conference to show what happened.

    “After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove,” said Ms Allred.

    Ms Hamlin said she heard the male security agents snickering as she took out the ring, before being scanned again and eventually allowed on the plane.

    Ms Allred said Ms Hamlin had filed a complaint to the TSA's customer service manager at Lubbock airport, who said the screening was handled properly.

    What the woman had in her nipples

    The lawyer said Ms Hamlin was “publicly humiliated and has undergone an enormous amount of physical pain to have the nipple rings reinserted' because of scar tissue”.

    “The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary,” said Ms Allred. “The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon.”

    Transportation Security Administration (TSA) spokesman Dwayne Baird said he had not heard of the incident.

    Mr Baird said the TSA had no specific policy about body jewellery but if it was big enough to sound an alarm, the person wearing it would not be allowed to pass security until the alarm was investigated.

    "I'd be really curious to know what this woman had in her nipples," Mr Baird said on CBS.

    "Sometimes they have a chain between their nipples, or a chain between their nipples and their belly button. It would have to be made of heavy metal to be detected."

    “I wouldn't wish this experience upon anyone,” said Ms Hamlin.

    “My experience with TSA was a nightmare I had to endure. No one deserves to be treated this way.”

    Ms Allred said the incident followed a similar claim by reality TV star Nicole Richie, who said she had her breasts inspected by security at an airport because of her nipple rings.

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    IF AIRLINES SOLD PAINT

    If you are wondering how our airlines can go bankrupt read this...


    Customer: Hi. How much is your paint?

    Clerk: Well, sir, that all depends on quite a lot of things.

    Customer: Can you give me a guess? Is there an average price?

    Clerk: Our lowest price is $12 a gallon, and we have 60 different prices up to $200 a gallon.

    Customer: What's the difference in the paint?

    Clerk: Oh, there isn't any difference; it's all the same paint.

    Customer: Well, then I'd like some of that $12 paint.

    Clerk: When do you intend to use the paint?

    Customer: I want to paint tomorrow. It's my day off.

    Clerk: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint.

    Customer: When would I have to paint to get the $12 paint?

    Clerk: You would have to start very late at night in about 3 weeks. But you will have to agree to start painting before Friday of that week and continue painting until at least Sunday.

    Customer: You've got to be *&%A#@* kidding!

    Clerk: I'll check and see if we have any paint available.

    Customer: You have shelves FULL of paint! I can see it! ...

    Clerk: But it doesn't mean that we have paint available. We sell only a certain number of gallons on any given weekend. Oh, and by the way, the price per gallon just went to $16. We don't have any more $12 paint.

    Customer: The price went up as we were talking?

    Clerk: Yes, sir. We change the prices and rules hundreds of times a day, and since you haven't actually walked out of the store with your paint yet, we just decided to change. I suggest you purchase your paint as soon as possible. How many gallons do you want?

    Customer: Well, maybe five gallons. Make that six, so I'll have enough.

    Clerk: Oh no, sir, you can't do that. If you buy paint and don't use it there are penalties and possible confiscation of the paint you already have.

    Customer: WHAT?

    Clerk: We can sell enough paint to do your kitchen, bathroom, hall and north bedroom, but if you stop painting before you do the bedroom, you will lose your remaining gallons of paint.

    Customer: What does it matter whether I use all the paint? I already paid you for it!

    Clerk: We make plans based upon the idea that all our paint is used, every drop. If you don't, it causes us all sorts of problems.

    Customer: This is crazy!! I suppose something terrible happens if I don't keep painting until after Saturday night!

    Clerk: Oh yes! Every gallon you bought automatically becomes the $200 paint.

    Customer: But what are all these, "Paint on sale from $10 a liter" signs?

    Clerk: Well that's for our budget paint. It only comes in half-gallons. One $5 half-gallon will do half a room. The second half-gallon to complete the room is $20. None of the cans have labels, some are empty and there are no refunds, even on the empty cans.

    Customer: To hell with this! I'll buy what I need somewhere else!

    Clerk: I don't think so, sir. You may be able to buy paint for your bathroom and bedrooms, and your kitchen and dining room from someone else, but you won't be able to paint your connecting hall and stairway from anyone but us and I should point out, sir, that if you paint in only one direction, it will be $300 a gallon.

    Customer: I thought your most expensive paint was $200!

    Clerk: That's if you paint around the room to the point at which you started. A hallway is different.

    Customer: And if I buy $200 paint for the hall, but only paint in one direction, you'll confiscate the remaining paint.

    Clerk: No, we'll charge you an extra use fee plus the difference on your next gallon of paint. But I believe you're getting it now, sir.

    Customer: You're insane!

    Clerk: Thanks for Painting with XXX.

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    excellent analogy Memock...they would read it of course and think "WTF are they on about..."

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