Airline News

**S Landreth** · 06-01-2023, 03:46 AM

Hopefully other major airlines will follow suit

Delta Air Lines to offer free WiFi on domestic flights starting in February

Delta Air Lines and T-Mobile will begin offering free WiFi on all flights beginning in February, the two companies announced Thursday.

Why it matters: Delta joins JetBlue as the only major U.S. airline to offer free wireless internet connectivity to all passengers.

Delta adds free WiFi

Details: Delta will begin rolling out the Wifi on domestic flights on Feb. 1. More than 700 planes in its fleet will offer the perk by the end of 2023, the company said in a statement.

International and regional routes will add Wifi by the end of 2024, per the statement.
Travelers can access the WiFi by logging into their Delta SkyMiles frequent flyer account "while on the ground or on the plane," the companies said.

What they're saying: “The ability to stay connected while seeing the world is simply foundational," Delta CEO Ed Bastian said in the statement.

Bastian called Delta’s partnership with T-Mobile an "exciting step forward" in offering an "onboard experience that’s as comfortable and personalized as sitting in your own living room."

Flashback: The Wall Street Journal reported in December that Delta was planning to roll out free wireless internet as early as 2023. Delta told WSJ it was exploring “various offerings to select customers on select routes.”

How to access free Delta WiFi

Travelers can access the WiFi by logging into their Delta SkyMiles frequent flyer account "while on the ground or on the plane," the companies said. Those without a SkyMiles account can sign up for free.

The service will be available on "smartphones, tablets and laptops," T-Mobile said.

Context: Most airlines charge for WiFi.

United Airlines, for example, charges $8 for members who have frequent flyer programs and $10 for normal flyers. Southwest Airlines also charges $8.
JetBlue is the only other airline with free WiFi.
But Hawaiian Airlines is planning to offer free Wifi through SpaceX’s Starlink in 2023 and American Airlines has also been testing offering free WiFi after watching ads, WSJ reports.

**Backspin** · 06-01-2023, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by Troy

^ There was a report on youtube saying the worker was a married woman with 3 kids...pretty tragic for NY eve.

Apparently engine running due to inop apu and she crossed directly in front instead of going long way round. May not have been told about inop apu.

So they were running a main engine for auxiliary power ?

**Troy** · 06-01-2023, 06:38 AM

^ Each engine runs a generator, without the APU, one engine stays running until ground power is attached and then it is shut down. Normally it's no problem, lights are flashing so stay clear.

**harrybarracuda** · 09-01-2023, 10:45 PM

Remember when two Boeing flying coffins/MAX's crashed, and they ended up having to admit they'd fucked up?

Well the NTSB are trying to blame it on bird strikes or something.

Wankers.

The NTSB points out that bird strikes could also have played a role. Incidents involving birds damaging planes at Addis Ababa airport are frequent.

Ethiopia Releases Final Boeing 737 MAX Accident Report, U.S. Authorities Question Report – AirlineGeeks.com

**S Landreth** · 11-01-2023, 06:36 PM

All US flights grounded due to major FAA 'system failure

The FAA - The FAA is working to restore its Notice to Air Missions System. We are performing final validation checks and reloading the system now.

Operations across the National Airspace System are affected.

We will provide frequent updates as we make progress. https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1613135903010033665

edit: FAA - no outbound flights till at least 9:00am

**david44** · 11-01-2023, 07:04 PM

Cyber attack or just routine flop?

Multiple sources have reported a computer outage with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) which has resulted in the grounding of many flights by airlines for safety reasons.
American Airlines and United have both confirmed to passengers waiting for flights that there is a nationwide system outage.
The FAA’s Air Traffic Control System Command Centre (ATCSCC) website says that a NOTAMS outage continues. Technicians are working to restore it but there is no current estimated time of restoration.
The NOTAM (Notice to Air Missions in the US) system is used to report potential hazards and important information to flight crews about airports and the state of flying.
According to the ATCSCC advisory, no new NOTAMS or amendments have been processed since 20:28 UTC yesterday,
The FAA has not formally grounded flights but airlines are choosing to do so as their flight crews do not have up-to-date information for their flight as a result of the outage. The system is understood to be partially restored.
In its latest update, the FAA said: “The FAA is still working to fully restore the Notice to Air Missions system following an outage. While some functions are beginning to come back on line, National Airspace System operations remain limited.”

**Norton** · 11-01-2023, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by david44

Cyber attack or just routine flop?

Routine flop. FAA knew of this problem and is making sure the system is working properly. According to CNN.

**harrybarracuda** · 11-01-2023, 08:22 PM

Maybe it affected the Indians. Hard to think how you can undercount your passengers by 50....

India's aviation regulator has pulled up an airline for leaving behind passengers on the tarmac in the southern Indian state of Karnataka.

A flight by Go First, previously known as Go Air, took off from the airport in Bengaluru city, leaving more than 50 passengers forgotten in a bus.

Reports said the travellers had checked in their baggage and had boarding passes in hand.

The airline said it was investigating the incident.

Go First apologised to passengers who complained on Twitter but has yet to explain what caused the confusion.

The Bengaluru-Delhi flight took off at 06:20 on Monday even as several passengers were still on one of its buses on the tarmac.

"The ground staff was checking whether the flight took off," Sumit Kumar, one of the passengers, told news channel NDTV. "Initially, they said the flight will return."

After the flight left, angry passengers tweeted about their experience, criticising Go First for its "negligence".

Go First flight under fire for leaving over 50 passengers behind on tarmac - BBC News

**david44** · 11-01-2023, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

A flight by Go First, previously known as Go Air, took off from the airport in Bengaluru city, leaving more than 50 passengers forgotten in a bus.

To be rebranded Go Last

**harrybarracuda** · 11-01-2023, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by david44

To be rebranded Go Last

Or perhaps Not Go At All.

**S Landreth** · 12-01-2023, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

All US flights grounded due to major FAA 'system failure

Update.

FAA NOTAMS Statement
Wednesday, January 11, 2023
FAA STATEMENT 6:30 pm EST

The FAA is continuing a thorough review to determine the root cause of the Notice to Air Missions (NOTAM) system outage. Our preliminary work has traced the outage to a damaged database file. At this time, there is no evidence of a cyber attack. The FAA is working diligently to further pinpoint the causes of this issue and take all needed steps to prevent this kind of disruption from happening again.

FAA STATEMENT 8:50 am EST

Normal air traffic operations are resuming gradually across the United States following an overnight outage to the FAA’s Notice to Air Missions (NOTAM) system that provides safety information to flight crews. The ground stop has been lifted.

The agency continues to look into the cause of the initial problem.

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-notams-statement

**Troy** · 12-01-2023, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Notice to Air Missions (NOTAM)

It was Notice to Airmen for 75 years or so...

**harrybarracuda** · 15-01-2023, 03:31 PM

Pokhara airport: At least 40 killed in plane crash in central Nepal

A plane with 72 people on board has crashed near an airport in central Nepal and at least 40 bodies have been recovered, officials say.

The Yeti Airlines flight from Kathmandu to the tourist town of Pokhara crashed on landing, catching fire.

Videos posted on social media show an aircraft flying low over a populated area before spinning sharply.

There were 68 passengers on board, including at least 15 foreign nationals, and four crew members.

Hundreds of Nepalese soldiers are involved in the operation at the crash site in the gorge of the Seti River, just one and a half kilometres from the airport.

Video taken where the plane came down shows thick billowing black smoke and burning debris.

"We expect to recover more bodies," an army spokesman told Reuters, saying the plane "has broken into pieces".

Prime Minister Pushpa Kamal Dahal called an emergency meeting of his cabinet and urged state agencies to work on rescue operations.

Of the passengers, 53 are said to be Nepalese. There were five Indian, four Russians and two Koreans on the plane. There was also one passenger each from Ireland, Australia, Argentina and France among others.

Pokhara airport: At least 40 killed in plane crash in central Nepal - BBC News

ATR 72. Video in the link below. Looks like it just ran out of lift.

**harrybarracuda** · 15-01-2023, 03:35 PM

**harrybarracuda** · 15-01-2023, 04:06 PM

Now I remember why it looked so familiar:

TransAirways 235. That was a flameout and incorrect engine shutdown.

**Backspin** · 15-01-2023, 11:02 PM

The plane entered an aerodynamic stall. A flamed out engine shouldnt have caused this on its own

My guess is that this plane was overloaded and had had technical difficulty and the pilots had the wrong flap settings in the moment

**harrybarracuda** · 16-01-2023, 10:04 AM

Video of the scene.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1614556758487478274

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"Half of the plane is on the hillside," said Arun Tamu, a local resident, who told Reuters he reached the site minutes after the plane went down. "The other half has fallen into the gorge of the Seti river."

**Backspin** · 16-01-2023, 11:55 AM

It happened at a brand new airport that was just commissioned weeks ago in Nepal.

**aging one** · 16-01-2023, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

The plane entered an aerodynamic stall. A flamed out engine shouldnt have caused this on its own

My guess is that this plane was overloaded and had had technical difficulty and the pilots had the wrong flap settings in the moment
Last edited by Backspin; Yesterday at 11:10 PM.

You are afraid to fly, interesting you came up with this scenario. From where have you copied it?

**Backspin** · 16-01-2023, 12:14 PM

Terrible footage of someone live streaming from inside the aircraft as it crashes. The camera still works after the crash.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/statu...o_EOiyo2eTG5QA

**Backspin** · 16-01-2023, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

You are afraid to fly, interesting you came up with this scenario. From where have you copied it?

Where did everyone get this idea that I am afraid to fly ? I fly. I just don't buy the propaganda from the industry that flying is safer than sitting in my livingroom chair.

I watch a lot of crash investigation videos.

**malmomike77** · 16-01-2023, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

I watch a lot of crash investigation videos.

hypochondriacs spend a lot of time looking up symptoms

**harrybarracuda** · 16-01-2023, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

You are afraid to fly, interesting you came up with this scenario. From where have you copied it?

Indeed, skidmark copying someone else's post and then claiming it's his "guess" is the most accurate answer here.

**Backspin** · 16-01-2023, 01:35 PM

^ Anyone who's watched more than 10 crash investigations will be thinking flap settings when they see this crash

Originally Posted by malmomike77

hypochondriacs spend a lot of time looking up symptoms

Here we go again with this bullshit.

When I was younger , I avoided air crash videos completely. But as I flew more and more, I got used to it and can watch them. Being afraid of heights is a very basic survival instinct. That some ppl don't have.

**malmomike77** · 16-01-2023, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Backspin

Here we go again with this bullshit.

there is risk in everything we do, being afraid to do anything because it carries risk is going to severely limit your enjoyment of life

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