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    Guess who would encourage an attack on NATO?

    Unbelievable!

    https//www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/11/donald-trump-says-he-would-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-countries-who-dont-pay-bills

    Seeking a second presidency as the Republicans’ presumptive 2024 White House nominee, Donald Trump has said he would “encourage” Russia to attack any of the US’s Nato allies whom he considers to have not met their financial obligations.
    The White House described the remarks as “appalling and unhinged”. Trump made the statement on Saturday during a campaign rally in Conway, South Carolina, ahead of the state’s Republican presidential preference primary on 24 February.

    The former president has voiced misgivings about aid to Ukraine as it defends itself from the invasion launched by Russia in February 2022 – as well as to the existence of Nato, the 31-nation alliance which the US has committed to defending when necessary.


    Trump told European leaders that US ‘will never com


    On Saturday, Trump claimed that during an unspecified Nato meeting he told a fellow head of state that the US under his leadership would not defend any countries who were “delinquent”.

    “One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, ‘Well, sir, if we don’t pay, and we’re attacked by Russia, will you protect us?’” Trump said, adding “I said, ‘You didn’t pay, you’re delinquent?’”
    “No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You got to pay. You got to pay your bills.”
    White House spokesperson Andrew Bates, asked about Trump’s comments, said, “encouraging invasions of our closest allies by murderous regimes is appalling and unhinged – and it endangers American national security, global stability and our economy at home.”
    Nato countries agreed in 2014, after Russia annexed Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula, to halt the spending cuts they had made after the cold war and move toward spending 2% of their GDPs on defense by 2024.
    During his 2016 campaign, Trump alarmed western allies by warning that the United States, under his leadership, might abandon its Nato treaty commitments and only come to the defence of countries that meet the alliance’s 2% target.
    As of 2022, Nato reported that seven of what are now 31 Nato member countries were meeting that obligation – up from three in 2014. Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine has spurred additional military spending by some Nato members.
    Trump’s comments come as Ukraine remains mired in its efforts to stave off Russia’s 2022 invasion and as Republicans in Congress have become increasingly skeptical of providing additional aid to the country as it struggles with stalled counteroffensives and weapons shortfalls.
    Trump’s remarks on Saturday quickly raised alarm among many political pundits in the US.
    “Sounds as if Trump is kind of encouraging Russia to attack our Nato allies,” David Corn – an MSNBC analyst and the Washington DC bureau chief of Mother Jones – said on X.
    Meanwhile, conservative political commentator Alyssa Farah Griffin said Trump’s comments were “music” to the ears of Russian leader Vladimir Putin


    On Saturday, the former president also celebrated the recent collapse of congressional legislation aiming to address the migration crisis on the US-Mexico border. The legislation was supported by Democratic incumbent Joe Biden, and Trump vowed that – if elected again – he would carry out “a massive deporation operation” on his first day back in the Oval Office.
    Trump has been performing strongly in public opinion polls against Biden, who defeated the ex-president in the 2020 election. Nonetheless, he is grappling with more than 90 criminal charges.
    The charges contained in four separate indictments across various jurisdictions allege that he tried to subvert the result of the election he lost, illegally retained government secrets after his presidency, and made illicit hush-money payments to a porn actor who claims to have had a sexual encounter with Trump.
    Trump has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
    The Associated Press, Reuters and Agence France-Presse contributed to this report

    Donald Trump has said he would “encourage” Russia to attack any of the US’s Nato allies whom he considers to have not met their financial obligations.





    Last edited by david44; 11-02-2024 at 03:21 PM.
    Russia went from being 2nd strongest army in the world to being the 2nd strongest in Ukraine

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    Let him drink bleach

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    Not another drumpf thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Not another drumpf thread.
    Are there any that the forum wanker of the year doesn't flood with shite?

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    The man is an amazing combination of insane and terminally fucking stupid.

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    At least bleach kills ppl quickly.....alcoholics disconnect their brains bit by bit, making the experience painful for all those around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salsa dancer View Post
    At least bleach kills ppl quickly.....alcoholics disconnect their brains bit by bit, making the experience painful for all those around.
    Baldy orange cunto doesn't drink. He hasn't even got that as an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The man is an amazing combination of insane and terminally fucking stupid.
    ...it's not so much the man as those who support his nonsense on the cult level as well as those who hope to achieve power with his support...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...it's not so much the man as those who support his nonsense on the cult level as well as those who hope to achieve power with his support...
    True. But, it shouldn't be forgotten that reflects the opposition and the general state of American politics (UK politics is no better). Trump is a moron. The Republicans are awful, and if they can't (or don't want to) find a better candidate than Trump then they should give up. The Democrats are awful too. If they can't find a better alternative than the old fella and utterly useless Indian woman who sometimes identifies as African American then they should give up.

    Trump v Biden II is as bad as it gets...
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Trump v Biden II is as bad as it gets...
    I don't usually pay too much attention to US politics, I usually get my comedy fix from TV, or vegan forums, but was chatting about it with a bloke last night.

    It is almost laughably unbelievable that the 2 choices to run the country for the next 4 years are an incontinent 81 year old that can't remember his own name, and 77 year old psychopath Donald Trump that could be on his way to jail.


    What an absolute comedy show.

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    Putin will be pissing himself laughing at this latest development.

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    It would be interesting to find out how many people in Australia (or any other Western country) actually support Trump in any way ? Perhaps half a percent ?

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    I think that's way too low. Among Aussie men over 50 years old, around 50%?

    Scotty from Marketing used to think there were plenty of political points in being mates with Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    If they can't find a better alternative than the old fella and utterly useless Indian woman who sometimes identifies as African American then they should give up.

    No fan of Kamala but don't fall for Trump tropes and lies, like me of mixed heritage, she had dad from Jamaica and Tamil mum. My ancestors were all white and anglophone so I could be invisible in UK schools.

    Of course Obama showed a person of colour can be POTUS but no woman has led America unlike India Pakistan Sri Lanka Turkey and many seemingly misogynistic nations. It needs be said many were family members of male leaders but not Ahern Thatcher, Borne, Cresson.

    USA would go for a mother figure like 'mutti' Merkel or sterner Maggie. If the GOP sobered up they'd see Haley could win, but the faux news Trumpanzees have captured the party of greed. Who will free the low wage slaves?

    IMHO we should rate performance on policy not pigment, ethics not ethnicity.




    Fact check: Kamala Harris did not switch from identifying as Indian-American to Black | Reuters

    gist here
    ABC News described her as “both black and Indian American” in 2019 ( here ) and The New Yorker called her “the second (Black woman elected to the Senate) and also the first South Asian senator” that same year

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