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    Why can't he have his say ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Why can't he have his say ?

    His own say? He can. But given his level of discourse rivals Chitty or MM he resorts to cut n paste of propaganda ad nauseam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    His own say? He can.
    You may not like the news articles but they have as much, if not more statements/accuracy, than other members posts.

    As for commentating on other's posts, I will continue to reply and politely ask for facts rather than repeating the same unsourced opinions.
    Last edited by OhOh; 18-01-2024 at 10:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    There were two reports from UKMTO on Friday 14th January 2024.

    Neither referenced an attack on a ship carrying Russian oil.

    Advisory UKMTO - IO #553 and Advisory UKMTO - IO #554

    Link to UKMTO:

    Attention Required! | Cloudflare

    Try checking your source, "British maritime security firm Ambrey", prior to informing TD members of falsehoods.
    You should try reading about things properly you fucking retard.

    Ambrey used OSINT to determine that this was the one of the high heeled war criminal's attempts to sanction bust.

    Mind you, the shitty Iran missile never got near enough to do any damage.

    I'm sure Vlad the wanker was on the blower to the mad mullahs screaming blue murder though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You may not like the news articles but they have as much, if not more accuracy, than other members posts.

    As for commentating on other's posts, I will continue to reply and politely ask for facts rather than repeating the same unsourced errors.
    Nah, you just post bollocks and haven't got a fucking clue. Bit like spamdreth really, but he does it on a larger scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Ambrey used OSINT
    OSINT posted no sources. Ambrey posted unsourced opinions which NaGaStan media parroted, with no sources other than Ambrey, not even OSINT stooped that low.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^^Willy's right though.
    My posts state named sources, others post unsourced opinion outlets.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    ou just post bollocks
    Your opinion is, as always, lacking in substance.

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    An example of a reported incident, including, sated sources, stated facts, stated responsibility and stated outcomes.

    18 Jan, 2024 00:45

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    Houthis strike another US vessel

    "The US-owned bulk carrier was sailing to India from the Suez when it was hit.

    Yemen’s Houthi rebels have taken responsibility for the attack on the US-owned cargo vessel Genco Picardy, a spokesman for the militant group announced on Wednesday.


    The United Kingdom Trade Organization (UKMTO) had received a report of an attack on a merchant ship around 60 nautical miles southeast of the Yemeni port of Aden.

    “Master reports vessel has been hit on the port side by an Uncrewed Aerial System,” the UKMTO said in their incident report late on Wednesday, referring to a likely drone attack. The report said the resulting fire was extinguished and that the vessel and crew were safe and proceeding to their next port of call.

    Houthi spokesman Brigadier General Yahya Saree claimed responsibility for the attack in a televised address, naming the vessel as the US-owned Genco Picardy.

    “The naval forces of the Yemeni Armed Forces carried out a targeting operation against the American ship… in the Gulf of Aden… leaving direct hits,” Saree said. He reiterated that Yemeni armed forces “will not hesitate to target all sources of threat in the Arab and Red Seas within the legitimate right to defend dear Yemen and to continue supporting the oppressed Palestinian people.”

    The US Central Command said on X (formerly Twitter) that the ship was indeed US-owned and operated, while flying the flag of the Marshall Islands. “There were no injuries and some damage reported,” CENTCOM said, adding that the ship was “seaworthy and continuing underway.”

    The Houthis have carried out dozens of drone and missile attacks in the Red Sea since the beginning of the Israel-Hamas war in October. The militant group has vowed to continue until the war ends and the blockade of Gaza is lifted. The increased risk of attack has forced major shipping firms to respond by avoiding the Suez Canal, the fastest cargo route from Asia to Europe. The traffic route normally accounts for 15% of the world’s commercial shipping.

    Following last week’s US-UK airstrikes on Yemen, a Houthi spokesman announced that for a ship to be targeted, “it is enough for it to be American.”

    The US and UK launched the bombing campaign last Thursday, with the stated goal of protecting maritime commerce in the Red Sea and the Bab-el-Mandeb straits. While the US National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby claimed the airstrikes were delivered to “good effect,” the New York Times reported on Saturday that the attacks left most of the Houthi military infrastructure intact."

    Houthis strike another US vessel — RT World News
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    18 Jan, 2024 00:11

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    US launches new strikes on Yemen

    The Pentagon has unleashed a fourth round of airstrikes against Houthi rebels in less than a week.

    "The United States reportedly launched a fresh wave of attacks against alleged militant targets across Yemen on Wednesday night, just hours after Washington designated the Houthi rebel group as a terrorist organization.

    The missile salvo was fired from US Navy ships stationed in the Red Sea and targeted sites that were “prepared to launch attacks,” CBS News and the Associated Press reported, citing unnamed US officials. Over a dozen locations were said to have been hit in the strikes.

    The operation follows a Houthi strike against a US-owned bulk carrier ship Genco Picardy in the Gulf of Aden earlier on Wednesday, with militant group spokesman Yahya Sarea claiming a “direct hit” on the cargo vessel.

    “The naval forces will not hesitate to target all sources of threat in the Red and Arabian sea within the legitimate right to defend Yemen and to continue supporting the oppressed Palestinian people,” he added.

    US Central Command (CENTCOM), the agency responsible for overseeing operations in the Middle East and Central Asia, said there were no injuries in the attack and that the vessel remained seaworthy, but noted “some damage” to the ship.

    The attack on the cargo vessel comes on the heels of several similar strikes in recent weeks, after the Houthis vowed to target any ship affiliated with Israel amid the ongoing war in Gaza. Washington has responded with three previous rounds of missile strikes on Houthi targets, and earlier on Wednesday announced the redesignation of the militant group as a terrorist organization.

    The Houthis must be held accountable for their actions, but it should not be at the expense of Yemeni civilians,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement. “As the Department of State moves forward with this designation, we are taking significant steps to mitigate any adverse impacts this designation may have on the people of Yemen.”

    However, the top US diplomat added that the decision would be reversed if the Houthis ceased their attacks on ships transiting the Red Sea. The group had previously been placed on the Foreign Terrorist Organization list under the administration of President Donald Trump, but were delisted in February 2021."

    US launches new strikes on Yemen — RT World News

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    Yah, more cnp spam.

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    Someone should chuck hoohoo's bollocks in his drivel thread where it belongs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    OSINT posted no sources. Ambrey posted unsourced opinions which NaGaStan media parroted, with no sources other than Ambrey, not even OSINT stooped that low.
    How can OSINT "post sources?

    Clearly you don't have a fucking clue what OSINT is you retarded knobgobbler.

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    Rising Red Sea tensions and its potential impact on India's export and oil trade

    The Red Sea has been the centre of military escalation in the last few weeks with fears of the Israel-Hamas war spreading to neighbouring nations. Yemen's Iran-backed Houthi rebels have targetted commercial vessels in the Red Sea using missiles, drones and helicopters. They claim that the ships they are targeting are linked to Israel, but the major impact of this ongoing crisis has been on global trade as vessels are now avoiding this crucial route.

    The Red Sea, a seawater inlet of the Indian Ocean, lies between Africa and Asia and is a route that is fundamental for global supply chains. But recent escalations have raised fears that costs for certain goods could skyrocket.

    The Red Sea connects the east coast of the United States with the far eastern region, and also the North Europe and Eastern Mediterranean, making it extremely important for shipping.


    The six countries bordering the Red Sea proper are, Saudi Arabia and Yemen on the eastern shore, and Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea, and Djibouti on the western shore.


    It is connected to the Indian Ocean in the south through the Bab al-Mandab Strait and the Gulf of Aden. On the other hand, the Sinai Peninsula, the Gulf of Aqaba, and the Gulf of Suez, which leads to the Suez Canal, are in the north.

    US helicopters sink Houthi boats in Red Sea, killing crews-img_0100-jpeg
    The route through the Red Sea shortens the travel time also. In the case of the Eastern Mediterranean, the time is shortened by about three weeks around one week to the US East Coast, and 10 to 14 days to northern Europe.


    What are the alternate routes?


    As an alternative, the shipping companies can opt for the far longer Cape of Good Hope route along South Africa to reach the west. However, this would delay the journey by around two weeks and also incur extra costs - around $1.25 million per sailing depending on where it is going.


    Italian and French ports are worried about being bypassed, because ships steer away from the main Mediterranean route. "We are not observing a significant impact as of today but it's a concern," Christophe Castaner, chairman of Marseille port, told a press conference.


    S&P Global Commodity Insights data revealed that around 12 per cent of global trade passes through the Suez Canal - Bab al-Mandab, representing 30 per cent of all global container traffic. About 95 per cent of vessels have rerouted around the Cape of Good Hope, adding 4,000 to 6,000 nautical miles, and 14 to 20 days to journeys.


    Impact on India's exports to Europe


    India's Commerce and Industry Ministry said recently that the Red Sea shipping crisis could impact India's exports to Europe the most as about 80 per cent of the outbound shipments to Europe take place through the Red Sea region.


    As quoted in media reports, a senior official said that the Indian government is considering other trade routes and has requested the Export Credit Guarantee Corporation (ECGC) not to raise insurance premiums due to growing shipping costs to Europe and rising Red Sea tensions.



    Impact on India's oil trade


    The S&P Global Commodity Insights data revealed that Russia still maintains its position as India's top supplier, accounting for over 35 per cent of India's total crude imports, despite Indian refinery appetite for Russian crude dipping in recent months compared with the first half of 2023. The recent slowdown can be attributed to a rise in Middle Eastern flows, weather-related issues at Russian ports, heightened refinery maintenance, and increased scrutiny on ships carrying Russian oil in the wake of sanctions after it invaded Ukraine.


    The data revealed, "Despite the current dip, it is anticipated that inflows will likely bounce back in the coming months. This resurgence is expected, as crude runs are projected to increase post-maintenance, especially with refining remaining robust and a need to meet seasonal demand growth."

    The S&P Global Commodity Insights data noted that, despite the Red Sea crisis, India's crude imports from Russia remain unaffected so far. According to CAS, as of December 27, the Red Sea route remains the preferred option for traders supplying Russian crude to Indian refiners. Notably, Russia, including the Caspian Pipeline Consortium, presently holds a substantial volume of oil at sea.


    Russia has approximately 112 million barrels of oil on water, with a minimum of 43.7 million barrels destined for India, the latest data from CAS revealed.


    Notably, 19.2 million barrels are positioned in proximity to the Indian subcontinent, covering the Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean East, and Southeast Asia, the S&P Global Commodity Insights said, further adding that in the case of any disruptions, refiners or traders have the option to utilise these volumes to sustain refinery operations.

    Rising Red Sea tensions and its potential impact on India'''s export and oil trade - World News
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    OSINT posted no sources. Ambrey posted unsourced opinions which NaGaStan media parroted, with no sources other than Ambrey, not even OSINT stooped that low.



    My posts state named sources, others post unsourced opinion outlets.



    Your opinion is, as always, lacking in substance.
    OSINT is open news source, better than anything that MSM had to offer

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    VOA published, (Some TD members favorite news source),

    Agence France-Presse named source.

    Houthis Won't Target Chinese, Russian Ships in Red Sea


    January 19, 2024 9:08 AM

    VOA News

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    A senior official of the Iranian-backed Houthi terrorist group says Chinese and Russian vessels will have safe passage through the Red Sea.


    Mohammed al-Bukhaiti, a member of the Houthi political leadership, said in an interview with the Russian outlet Izvestia that the shipping lanes around Yemen are safe to ships from China and Russia as long as vessels are not connected with Israel, Agence France-Presse reported Friday, citing Izvestia.

    The Houthis have said they are acting in solidarity with Palestinians amid Israel’s war against Hamas militants in Gaza and have carried out more than 30 attacks in the Red Sea.

    However, the Houthis have launched attacks on ships with no apparent connection with Israel, resulting in some shipping firms avoiding the shipping lanes where the Houthis have launched attacks.

    Major shipping companies have responded by rerouting vessels on the longer and more expensive route around Africa. The Red Sea route is a vital shipping link between Europe and Asia, carrying about 15% of the world’s maritime traffic.

    The Houthi rebels launched two anti-ship ballistic missiles at a U.S.-owned ship in the Gulf of Aden, the U.S. Central Command said in a statement late Thursday.

    The statement said the crew saw the missiles land in the water near the ship. There were no reported injuries or damage to the ship, the M/V Chem Ranger, a Marshall Island-flagged, U.S.-owned, Greek-operated tanker ship, U.S. Central Command said.

    Yemen’s Houthi rebels said they had carried out the attack, claiming “direct hits,” a statement on the group’s social media said.

    On Thursday, U.S. forces carried out more strikes against targets inside Iranian-backed, Houthi-controlled territory in Yemen, as concerns grow that the Israel-Hamas conflict could expand into a full-blown war across the Middle East."

    Houthis Won't Target Chinese, Russian Ships in Red Sea

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    VOA published, (Some TD members favorite news source),

    Agence France-Presse named source.

    Houthis Won't Target Chinese, Russian Ships in Red Sea
    I'm pretty sure they said that before they targeted the ship full of Russian oil, you blathering halfwit.

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    More proof, if it were needed..., that this is Iran's geo-politics being played out by a local proxy paid for and supplied weapons solely at/for Iran's bidding.

    One could rephrase the title: "Iran Says it Won't (Knowingly) Target Chinese or Russian Ships in the Red Sea.
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    Red Sea crisis pressures China's exporters as shipping delays, costs mount

    For Chinese businessman Han Changming, disruptions to Red Sea freight are threatening the survival of his trading company in the eastern province of Fujian.


    Han, who exports Chinese-made cars to Africa and imports off-road vehicles from Europe, told Reuters the cost of shipping a container to Europe had surged to roughly $7,000 from $3,000 in December, when Yemen's Iran-aligned Houthi movement escalated attacks on shipping.


    "The disruptions have wiped out our already thin profits," said Han, adding that higher shipping-insurance premiums are also taking a toll on Fuzhou Han Changming International Trade Co Ltd, the company he founded in 2016.

    The rupture of one of the world's busiest shipping routes has exposed the vulnerability of China's export-reliant economy to supply snarls and external demand shocks. In a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos on Tuesday, Premier Li Qiang emphasised the need to keep global supply chains "stable and smooth", without referring specifically to the Red Sea.


    Some companies, such as U.S.-based BDI Furniture, have said they are relying more on factories in places such as Turkey and Vietnam to mitigate the impact of the disruptions, adding to recent moves by Western countries to reduce dependence on China amid geopolitical tensions.


    At stake for China now is the danger that other firms will follow suit and reassess their de-risking strategy, opting potentially to shift production closer to home, an approach known as "near-shoring".


    "If it's permanent, and it could be permanent, then the whole mechanism will be readjusted," said Marco Castelli, founder of IC Trade, which exports Chinese-made mechanical components to Europe. "Some (companies) may also consider moving more production to India, which is one week closer to Europe. Companies need to reevaluate everything."


    Further Red Sea disruptions would pile pressure on a struggling Chinese economy already contending with a property crisis, weak consumer demand, a shrinking population and sluggish global growth.


    With Europe and Africa trade accounting for 40% of Han's overall business, he said he had been pleading with suppliers and customers to shoulder some of the additional costs to keep his company afloat. Shipping times for some orders were delayed by up to several weeks, he said.


    Compounding the pain for some firms, the disruptions come as many are navigating a logistics challenge ahead of Lunar New Year in February, when some 300 million migrant workers go on leave and almost all factories in China shut, creating a scramble in the preceding weeks to get goods shipped.


    Mike Sagan, the Shenzhen-based vice president for supply chains and operations at KidKraft, a maker of outdoor play equipment and wooden toys, said many European customers are slamming on the brakes, saying: "Don't ship anything, hold it".


    "A lot of suppliers, they're screaming about money today," said Sagan, whose company supplies retailers including Walmart and Target.


    A worry for larger manufacturers, he said, is the snowball effect on smaller suppliers with tight margins, as they would be among the last to receive payments but are critical to the supply chain.


    Rerouting vessels from the Red Sea - the shortest route from Asia to Europe via the Suez Canal - around the Cape of Good Hope can add two weeks to shipping schedules, reducing global container capacity and cleaving supply chains as it takes longer for vessels to return to ports to reload.


    That probably means delays for goods scheduled to arrive on Western shelves in April or May. Some logistics companies are already reporting a container shortage at Ningbo-Zhoushan port in China, one of the world's busiest by cargo tonnage, according to BMI, an industry research firm.


    The Suez Canal is a primary route for China's westward shipments of goods, including around 60% of its exports to Europe, according to the Middle East Institute, a Washington-based think tank.


    'HUGE' IMPACT


    Yang Bingben, whose company makes industrial-use valves in eastern China's manufacturing hub of Wenzhou, said a client in Shanghai this week slashed an order for 75 valves - intended for assembly into large machinery for shipment overseas - to 15 amid soaring freight costs.


    "The impact is huge," said Yang, adding that he had prepared raw materials that could not be returned because they had been processed. "It's like I received an order that makes me lose money."


    Yang is now rethinking his staffing needs for this year, saying he can't guarantee salaries as his workers are paid based on the amount of work they do.


    "If I don't have enough work to give them, I'm afraid they won't be able to make a living."


    In southern China, Wei Qiongfang, a freight forwarder based in Guangzhou, said some suppliers were delaying shipments of lower-value goods, pressuring manufacturers' stockpiles.


    As once-predictable trade conditions become increasingly uncertain, the impact is especially acute for companies that rely on just-in-time deliveries or that need to change their stock regularly.


    Another issue, said Castelli, is that factories do not get paid until goods arrive at their destination.


    "So if their payment is delayed, they can't pay their suppliers, they can't pay their workers," he said. "China is so successful in the global market because they work with tiny margins: when you have volume, the money rolls in; when the money stops coming, you have a big problem."


    In the Pearl River Delta city of Dongguan, Gerhard Flatz, managing director of premium sportswear manufacturer KTC, is concerned that some companies grappling with shrinking margins will go under.


    "So, they are struggling, and now there is another logistics crisis. You know, at some point many will have to shut down," said Flatz.

    Red Sea crisis pressures China's exporters as shipping delays, costs mount | Taiwan News | 2024-01-19 19:30:00

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    US hits another Houthi anti-ship missile aimed into the Gulf of Aden

    United States on Saturday (Jan 20) launched fresh strike on Yemen's Houthi rebels targeting an anti-ship ballistic missile, which as per US army, was aimed into the Gulf of Aden and prepared to launch.

    "US forces determined the missile presented a threat to merchant vessels and US Navy ships in the region, and subsequently struck and destroyed the missile in self-defense," the U.S. Central Command said in a statement on X.


    This came amid heightening tensions in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden that have caused disruptions in the global trade and has raised concerns over supply chain bottlenecks.

    Earlier on Friday (Jan 19), US Central Command forces conducted strikes against three Houthi anti-ship missiles that they said were aimed into the Southern Red Sea.


    ‘Strikes against Houthis to continue,’ says Biden

    United States President Joe Biden on Thursday (Jan 18) said that the military strikes against the Houthis would continue as he said that the rebel group was still attacking vessels in the Red Sea.

    "When you say 'working, are they stopping the Houthi?' No. Are they going to continue? Yes," Biden told reporters at the White House when asked if the strikes were working.

    Washington on Wednesday (Jan 17) re-designated the Houthis as a "terrorist group" and hit 14 Houthi missiles later the same day.


    Meanwhile, on Saturday, missiles were launched targeting a military base used by US-led coalition forces in western Iraq, a US defence source and Iraqi police told news agency AFP.


    "Al-Asad airbase was targeted by 15 rockets" that were fired from Anbar province, where the military base is located, he said.


    He further added that 13 of the projectiles were shot down by anti-air defences but "two fell on the airbase".


    There have been dozens of attacks on United States and coalition forces in Iraq and Syria since the war broke out between Israel and Palestinian militant group Hamas.


    "Islamic Resistance in Iraq" has claimed responsibility for the majority of the attacks aimed at US troops.


    This is an alliance of Iran-linked armed groups that are against US support for Israel in the Gaza war.


    US hits another Houthi anti-ship missile aimed into the Gulf of Aden - World News

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    As Houthis vow to fight on, U.S. prepares for sustained campaign

    Time to take the gloves off...

    The Biden administration is crafting plans for a sustained military campaign targeting the Houthis in Yemen after 10 days of strikes failed to halt the group’s attacks on maritime commerce, stoking concern among some officials that an open-ended operation could derail the war-ravaged country’s fragile peace and pull Washington into another unpredictable Middle Eastern conflict.

    The White House convened senior officials on Wednesday to discuss options for the way ahead in the administration’s evolving response to the Iranian-backed movement, which has vowed to continue attacking ships off the Arabian peninsula despite near-daily operations to destroy Houthi radars, missiles and drones. On Saturday, U.S. Central Command announced its latest strike, on an anti-ship missile that was prepared for launch.

    The deepening cycle of violence isa setback to President Biden’s goal of stemming spillover hostilities triggered by Israel’s war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Underscoring the threat, Iran on Saturday blamed Israel for a strike on the Syrian capital, Damascus, that killed five Iranian military advisers. The Israeli military declined to comment. In Iraq, an attack on Ain al-Asad air base, which hosts Iraqi and U.S. troops, left one Iraqi soldier seriously injured, according to a Defense Department official. An Iran-linked faction there said it was responsible.

    The Houthis, one powerful faction in Yemen’s long-running civil war, have framed their campaign, which has included more than 30 missile and drone attacks on commercial and naval vessels since November, as a means of pressuring Israel,bolstering their standing amidwidespread regional opposition to the Jewish state. The quickly expanding U.S. response likewise risks pulling Biden into another volatile campaign in a region that has repeatedly mired down the American military, potentially undermining his attempt to refocus U.S. foreign policy on Russia and China.

    Administration officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, described their strategy in Yemen as an effort to erode the Houthis’ high-level military capability enough to curtail their ability to target shipping in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden or, at a minimum, to provide a sufficient deterrent so that risk-averse shipping companies will resume sending vessels through the region’s waterways.

    “We are clear-eyed about who the Houthis are, and their worldview,”a senior U.S. official said of the group, which the Biden administration designated this week as a terrorist organization. “So we’re not sure that they’re going to stop immediately, but we are certainly trying to degrade and destroy their capabilities.”

    Biden this week acknowledged that the strikes had so far failed to discourage Houthi leaders, who have promised to exact revenge against the United States and Britain, whose military has contributed to the strikes in Yemen.

    “Are they stopping the Houthis? No,” the president told reporters. “Will they continue? Yes.”

    Officials say they don’t expect that the operation will stretch on for years like previous U.S. wars in Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria. At the same time they acknowledge they can identify no end date or provide an estimate for when the Yemenis’ military capability will be adequately diminished. As part of the effort, U.S. naval forces also are working to intercept weapons shipments from Iran.

    The Houthis, who made an unlikely rise from an obscure rebel movement in Yemen’s northern mountains in the 1990s to ruling large swaths of the country by 2015, previously withstood years of bombing by a military coalition led by Saudi Arabia.

    “We’re not trying to defeat the Houthis. There’s no appetite for invading Yemen,” a diplomat close to the issues said. “The appetite is to degrade their ability to launch these kind of attacks going forward, and that involves hitting the infrastructure that enables these kind of attacks, and targeting their higher-level capabilities.”

    The first U.S. official said the initial U.S. and British strikes had succeeded “in significantly degrading” the military assets targeted thus far, but also acknowledged they retain a consequential arsenal. “That’s not to say that the Houthis don’t still have capability, but there’s a lot that they had that they don’t have now,” he said.

    Western officials believe the most advanced equipment is provided by Iran, which they say has conducted a years-long smuggling operation that has allowed them to strike far beyond Yemen’s borders.

    The United States is hoping that the strikes, in conjunction with its interdiction campaign that last week yielded a shipment of missile warheads, will slowly starve the Houthis of their most potent weapons.

    They point out that more sophisticated attacks, like a large-scale one that occurred Jan. 9, have not been repeated since the U.S.-ledstrikes began. “Recall before the strike we had U.S. ships attacked with 20-plus UAVs and multiple missiles in a single attack,” a second American official said, using a military acronym for drone aircraft.

    The Houthis now appear to be receiving targeting assistance from Iran, the first official said. He described the group’s approach to attacking ships in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden as “inconsistent”: sometimes they seem to have clearly identified the nationality and affiliations of the vessels they target; in other instances they do not.

    Officials said that ideology, rather than economics, was a chief driver of Biden’s decision to mount the current campaign. While the attacks have so far taken a greater toll on Europe than the United States, which relies on Pacific trade routes more than those in the Middle East, the Houthi campaign is already beginning to reshape the global shipping map. Some firms have chosen to reroute ships around the Cape of Good Hope off southern Africa, while major oil companies including BP and Shell suspended shipments through the area.

    The officials said Biden believed the United States had to act as what they described as the world’s “indispensable nation,” with a powerful military and an ability to organize diverse nations behind a single cause. Nations including Canada, Bahrain, Germany and Japan jointly issued a statement on Jan. 3 decrying the Houthi actions.

    They compared Biden’s decision to confront the Houthis to his stance in support of Ukraine, where he has authorized billions of dollars in weapons donations to help Kyiv push back against Russia’s breach of its sovereignty, a major violation of global norms.

    In this case, officials said, the administration is willing to safely transit key waterways and, more generally, defend the principle of freedom of navigation. Theyhope the signal sent by preemptive American strikes will convince shipping firms to return to business as usual.

    “It’s impossible to forecast exactly what’s going to happen, and certainly not [to predict] future operations,” the first U.S. official said. “But the principle that it simply can’t be tolerated for a terrorist organization … with these advanced capabilities to essentially shut down or control shipping through a key international choke point is one that we feel very strongly about.”

    Mohammed al-Basha, a Yemen expert with the Navanti Group, said the Houthis have strong incentive to press on.

    “When the Houthis attacked the Abu Dhabi airport, they garnered a lot of attention. When they attacked Aramco they garnered even more attention,” he said, referring to attacks in the United Arab Emirates and on oil facilities in Saudi Arabia. “But the attention they’re getting today from the Red Sea attacks isunheard of, so they are loving this.”

    The administration has tried to avoid being seen as fueling regional violence by working to build international support, including by finding partners to sign on for declarations condemning the Houthi violence and by securing passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution denouncing their actions a day before the initial U.S. strikes. This week, the administration imposed a terrorism designation on the group.

    State Department spokesman Matt Miller said the nations who have joined the United States in seeking to counter the Houthi violence were all playing “different roles.”

    “There are more than 40 countries that issued a statement making clear that they condemned the Houthis’ attacks. There is a coalition of more than 20 countries that we assembled … to defend against the Houthis’ attacks,” Miller said.

    Some U.S. officials have voiced fears about the U.S. military’s intervention, worried it could unravel the hard-fought diplomatic gains aimed at ending the war in Yemen or exacerbate the already dire humanitarian situation in the Arab world’s poorest country.

    Some officials at the State Department and the U.S. Agency for International Development remain concerned the U.S. assault could result in the Houthis expanding their strikes against Saudi assets — in particular oil refineries — and derail efforts to forge a peace settlement to end the nine-year war in Yemen that has killed hundreds of thousands of people and caused one of the world’s worst humanitarian disasters.

    There are still several steps that haven’t been taken to solidify a peace settlement between the Houthis and the Saudis, including a payment mechanism to former Houthi fighters that are now acting in local administrator roles. Measures like that become more difficult to establish amid active hostilities between U.S. and Houthi forces.

    U.S. officials also are concerned that attacking the Houthis has thrust the United States into a conflict with little exit strategy and limited support from key allies. Notably, America’s most powerful Gulf partners have withheld their backing for the American operation. The prime minister of Qatar, a key U.S. ally in the Gulf, haswarned that Western strikes would not halt the violence and could fuel regional instability.

    “We need to address the central issue, which is Gaza, in order to get everything else defused … If we are just focusing on the symptoms and not treating the real issues, (solutions) will be temporary,” he said, according to Reuters. Palestinian authorities say that Israel’s campaign in Gaza, which the country launched following Hamas’ deadly Oct. 7 attacks into Israel, has killed more than 24,000 people.

    While U.S. lawmakers have been broadly supportive of the strikes in Yemen, they said the administration has yet to outline a clear strategy or endgame, and suggested the strikes have not eliminated concerns about an escalating Middle East conflict. Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters following a meeting with Secretary of State Antony Blinken in recent days that the administration’s plan for addressing the threat appeared to be “evolving.”

    Legislators also voiced fears the operation could become costly andprolonged. Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, noted that some of the missiles employed to date could cost $2 million apiece. “So you’ve got this issue that will be emerging of how long can we continue to fire expensive missiles,” he said.

    Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) noted that the United States had attempted to weaken othergroups in the past, such as the Taliban or al-Qaeda, even as they rearmed. “The Houthis were rebuilding even as the Saudis bombed them [for years]. So it’s sobering,” Blumenthal said.

    “There’s no question,” he added, “that we should be very clear-eyed about the difficulties here.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...yemen-houthis/

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    It's all very well going after the Houthi's (and needed due to their disruption on World trade), but at some point the underlying factor, Iran, needs to be seriously addressed. Not easy...

    Maybe, if Chinese commerce is being negatively affected, as Misskit highlighted a couple of posts ago, then Chinese political pressure might be more effective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    It's all very well going after the Houthi's (and needed due to their disruption on World trade),

    And how many wars can the US simultaneously sustain?

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    ^ that's why I offered a solution... Our friendly Chinese brothers (and sisters) to use their diplomatic skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Our friendly Chinese brothers
    I do believe that Iran is more closely aligned with ruzzia than the Chinese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    And how many wars can the US simultaneously sustain?
    It's not a war, it's a turkey shoot you idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    It's all very well going after the Houthi's (and needed due to their disruption on World trade), but at some point the underlying factor, Iran, needs to be seriously addressed. Not easy...

    Maybe, if Chinese commerce is being negatively affected, as Misskit highlighted a couple of posts ago, then Chinese political pressure might be more effective?
    All the chinkies are worried about is the heavily discounted oil they smuggle from Iran. It's not their only source.

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