Thread: US helicopters sink Houthi boats in Red Sea, killing crews

Originally Posted by bsnub

He isn't talking about the recent hits.

Reading up on it this afternoon refreshed my memory, and March 2021 seems correct.

Originally Posted by cyrille

March 2021 seems correct.

War with Saudi. Then likely an AMRAM.

Houthis mistakenly target tanker carrying Russian oil

CAIRO (Reuters) - Houthi militants mistakenly targeted a tanker carrying Russian oil in a missile attack on Friday off Yemen, British maritime security firm Ambrey said.


The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) organisation said it had received a report of a missile being fired 90 nautical miles southeast of Yemen's port city of Aden.

CAIRO (Reuters) - Houthi militants mistakenly targeted a tanker carrying Russian oil in a missile attack on Friday off Yemen, British maritime security firm Ambrey said.


The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) organisation said it had received a report of a missile being fired 90 nautical miles southeast of Yemen's port city of Aden.


"The master reported a missile landing in the water 400-500 metres away, and being followed by three small craft," the UKMTO advisory note said, adding that there were no injuries or damage.


Ambrey said: "This was the second tanker mistakenly targeted by the Houthis whilst carrying Russian oil."


Yemen's Iranian-backed Houthi militants, who control much of Yemen, have launched wave after wave of exploding drones and missiles at Western commercial vessels in the Red Sea since Nov. 19, in what they say is a protest against Israel's military operations in Gaza.


The United States and Britain carried out strikes from the air and sea against Houthi military targets in Yemen overnight. Russia, an ally of Iran and a partner of key Arab powers, denounced the strikes and called for an urgent meeting of the U.N. Security Council.


"A Panama-flagged tanker sighted three skiffs while transiting eastbound through the International Recommended Transit Corridor," the Ambrey report said, adding that the vessel reported a missile hitting the water.

Ambrey assessed that the vessel was mistakenly targeted based on outdated publicly available information linking the vessel to the United Kingdom.


"This appeared to be five months old but was still listed as UK-affiliated on a public maritime database," the report said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...rt/ar-AA1mSDUi

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Iran is just using a proxy to disrupt the west and its partners

That plus with the war in Ukraine, the Isreali war with Hamas and Hezbollah, the Houthis needed some recognition. They certainly have it now.

Yemen Houthi rebels fire missile at US warship in Red Sea in first attack after American-led strikes

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Yemen's Houthi rebels fired an anti-ship cruise missile toward an American destroyer in the Red Sea on Sunday, but a U.S. fighter jet shot it down in the latest attack roiling global shipping amid Israel's war with Hamas in the Gaza Strip, officials said.


The attack marks the first U.S.-acknowledged fire by the Houthis since America and allied nations began strikes Friday on the rebels following weeks of assaults on shipping in the Red Sea.


The Houthis have targeted that crucial corridor linking Asian and Mideast energy and cargo shipments to the Suez Canal onward to Europe over the Israel-Hamas war, attacks that threaten to widen that conflict into a regional conflagration.


The Houthis, a Shiite rebel group allied with Iran that seized Yemen's capital in 2014, did not immediately acknowledge the attack.


It wasn't immediately clear whether the U.S. would retaliate for the latest attack, though President Joe Biden has said he “will not hesitate to direct further measures to protect our people and the free flow of international commerce as necessary.”


The Houthi fire on Sunday went in the direction of the USS Laboon, an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer operating in the southern reaches of the Red Sea, the U.S. military's Central Command said in a statement.


The missile came from near Hodeida, a Red Sea port city long held by the Houthis, the U.S. said.


“An anti-ship cruise missile was fired from Iranian-backed Houthi militant areas of Yemen toward USS Laboon,” Central Command said. “There were no injuries or damage reported."


The first day of U.S.-led strikes Friday hit 28 locations and struck more than 60 targets with cruise missiles and bombs launched by fighter jets, warships and a submarine. Sites hit included weapon depots, radars and command centers, including in remote mountain areas, the U.S. has said.


The Houthis have yet to acknowledge how severe the damage was from the strikes, which they said killed five of their troops and wounded six others.


U.S. forces followed up with a strike Saturday on a Houthi radar site.


Shipping through the Red Sea has slowed over the attacks. The U.S. Navy on Friday warned American-flagged vessels to steer clear of areas around Yemen in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden for 72 hours after the initial airstrikes.


For their part, the Houthis alleged without providing evidence that the U.S. struck a site near Hodeida on Sunday around the same time of the cruise missile fire. The Americans and the United Kingdom did not acknowledge conducting any strike — suggesting the blast may have been from a misfiring Houthi missile.


Since November, the rebels have repeatedly targeted ships in the Red Sea, saying they were avenging Israel’s offensive in Gaza against Hamas. But they have frequently targeted vessels with tenuous or no clear links to Israel, imperiling shipping in a key route for global trade.


Though the Biden administration and its allies have tried to calm tensions in the Middle East for weeks and prevent any wider conflict, the strikes threatened to ignite one.


Saudi Arabia, which supports the Yemeni government-in-exile that the Houthis are fighting, sought to distance itself from the attacks on Houthi sites as it tries to maintain a delicate détente with Iran and a cease-fire it has in Yemen. The Saudi-led, U.S.-backed war in Yemen that began in 2015 has killed more than 150,000 people, including fighters and civilians, and created one of the world’s worst humanitarian disasters, killing tens of thousands more.


The American military did not specifically say the fire targeted the Laboon, following a pattern by the U.S. since the Houthi attacks began. However, U.S. sailors have received combat ribbons for their actions in the Red Sea— something handed out only to those who face active hostilities with an enemy force.

Yemen Houthi rebels fire missile at US warship in Red Sea in first attack after American-led strikes

Originally Posted by Norton

War with Saudi. Then likely an AMRAM.

AMRAAM? You are clearly out of your depth here and wrong again. It was a patriot, as I said from the beginning.

Originally Posted by cyrille

March 2021

Must have been this then...

Saudi Arabia ‘intercepts ballistic missile over Riyadh’ | Houthis News | Al Jazeera

Al Ekhbariya broadcast footage of what appeared to be explosions in the air over Riyadh, and social media users also posted videos, with some showing residents shrieking as they watched the fiery blast pierce the night sky, which appeared to be the kingdom’s Patriot missile batteries intercepting the ballistic missile.

Originally Posted by bsnub

AMRAAM? You are clearly out of your depth here and wrong again. It was a patriot, as I said from the beginning.

My bad. Was late and put in the wrong name. So kill me.

Btw, I was running around the world selling AMRAAM, Patriot, SM2, and prior to that, when your mom was introducing you to solid foods, Tartar and Terrier. Out of my depth.

^ I got a giggle out of that, too.

Originally Posted by misskit

Houthis mistakenly target tanker carrying Russian oil

CAIRO (Reuters) - Houthi militants mistakenly targeted a tanker carrying Russian oil in a missile attack on Friday off Yemen, British maritime security firm Ambrey said.

There you go, you reap what you sew, you high heeled war criminal twat.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Actually I fully support the Houthi in their actions and have great respect for their sheer grit in fighting for their independence from the tyranny of Saudi backed corruptocrats. The Houthis fought in their decade long civil war losing several hundred thousand of their people against the Saudi/US backed regime and won.
Now, backed by Iran, they’re sticking to their principles and are supporting the Palestinians by taking action against the Israelis and their interests.
That the USUK alliance is helping the Israelis in their genocidal war against the original population of Palestine by is a disgrace.
The Houthis are to be commended.

I didn't know you were so retarded.

Originally Posted by Norton

My bad. Was late and put in the wrong name. So kill me.

Btw, I was running around the world selling AMRAAM, Patriot, SM2, and prior to that, when your mom was introducing you to solid foods, Tartar and Terrier. Out of my depth.

Ah, so you're a fully fledged merchant of death then?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Ah, so you're a fully fledged merchant of death then?

I was and very profitable it was. Sold F-16 weapons, was on a team that developed Taiwan's IDF and on the not so deadly side, Communication Sats and Commercial Flight Sims as well.

Originally Posted by Norton

I was and very profitable it was. Sold F-16 weapons, was on a team that developed Taiwan's IDF and on the not so deadly side, Communication Sats and Commercial Flight Sims as well.

General Dynamics?

Originally Posted by misskit

However, U.S. sailors have received combat ribbons for their actions in the Red Sea

A combat ribbon and ten bucks will get you a coffee and a scone at Starbucks.

Yay...

Originally Posted by OhOh

Neither referenced an attack on a ship carrying Russian oil.

Could be an Israeli, ukranian, US, UK or .......swiss tanker.......carrying russian oil.

Or maybe even russian.

Wonder which way it was going with that oil

Originally Posted by OhOh

There were two reports from UKMTO on Friday 14th January 2024.

Since there was no Friday 14th January 2024, I doubt there was an attack that day.

It happened on Friday, January 12th. UKMTO reports 540, 549, 550, 551, and 552, you turkey.

^ Indeed. Report No.551, Friday 12 January 2024.



Although it doesn't mention Russian oil, it is certainly the UKMTO report that Reuters is referring to.

Reuters is a highly respectable news organisation. If they said that ship was carrying Russian oil, I would believe them because they would have checked themselves.

More oil tankers shun southern Red Sea after US-led strikes in Yemen

LONDON, Jan 15 (Reuters) - At least six more oil tankers were steering clear of the southern Red Sea on Monday, as disruptions increase on the vital route for energy shipping in the wake of U.S.-led strikes against Houthi targets in Yemen.


Following the U.S. and British strikes, the U.S.-led Combined Maritime Forces (CMF) based in Bahrain on Friday warned all ships to avoid the Bab al-Mandab Strait at the south end of the Red Sea for several days, tanker body INTERTANKO said.


Prior to the strikes it had been mostly container ships which were avoiding the Red Sea, with oil tanker traffic largely unchanged in December.

But since the CMF's warning, a growing number of oil tankers are avoiding the region, increasing the potential for disruptions to oil supply via the Suez Canal in both directions.


Reuters on Monday counted six tankers that had altered their course, making a total of at least fifteen vessels to do so since the start of the strikes, ship tracking data from LSEG and Kpler showed.


The tankers Torm Innovation, Proteus Harvonne, and Alfios I appeared to have turned away from the Suez Canal in favour of the longer route around Africa's Cape of Good Hope for voyages to Europe and the U.S..


The Pacific Julia and STI Topaz are also heading straight for the Cape route.


The Octa Lune performed a U-turn in the northern part of the Red Sea on Jan. 12 and has returned to the Mediterranean with a Taiwan-bound cargo of naphtha.


Tankers tracked by Reuters on Friday that had diverted or paused have either taken the longer Cape route or paused in the Gulf of Aden or northern Red Sea.


Tanker owners including Torm TRMDa.CO, Hafnia HAFNI.OL and Stena Bulk said they would avoid Bab al-Mandab from Friday, while Euronav EUAV.BR reaffirmed its temporary suspension of transits through the Red Sea.


WATERBORNE OIL GLUT


The disruption is indirectly tightening the market by forcing up oil stocks on water by 35 million barrels, Citi analysts noted.


Oil prices gained 2% last week in response to the rising tide of conflict in the region, but the lack of direct impact on oil production could be limiting gains, according to analysts, as prices ticked lower on Monday.


The strikes last week across Yemen against Houthi forces came in retaliation for months of attacks on Red Sea shipping.


The Houthis said on Monday that their attacks would continue despite the U.S. strikes, and struck a U.S.-owned dry bulk vessel carrying steel products with an anti-ship ballistic missile in the Gulf of Aden on Monday.


Houthi militants have been targeting commercial vessels since late last year in attacks which the group says are in support for Palestinian group Hamas in its war with Israel in the Gaza Strip.


Those incidents have been concentrated on the Bab al-Mandab Strait, southwest of the Arabian Peninsula.


Regional shipping tensions also spread to the other side of the peninsula last week when Iran seized a tanker south of the Strait of Hormuz, another key shipping corridor.

More oil tankers shun southern Red Sea after US-led strikes in Yemen | Taiwan News | 2024-01-16 11:00:00

Originally Posted by OhOh

There were two reports from UKMTO on Friday 14th January 2024.

Neither referenced an attack on a ship carrying Russian oil.

Advisory UKMTO - IO #553 and Advisory UKMTO - IO #554

Link to UKMTO:

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

In case you didn't know, OhOh, UKMTO is run by the British Royal Navy just outside Portsmouth.

Originally Posted by misskit

eports 540, 549, 550, 551, and 552, you turkey.

None of your numbered UKMTO reports has any reference to Russia, including the now missing 540 report.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Reuters is a highly respectable news organisation. If they said that ship was carrying Russian oil, I would believe them because they would have checked themselves.

"CAIRO, Jan 12 (Reuters) - Houthi militants mistakenly targeted a tanker carrying Russian oil in a missile attack on Friday off Yemen, British maritime security firm Ambrey said.


The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) organisation said it had received a report of a missile being fired 90 nautical miles southeast of Yemen's port city of Aden.

"The master reported a missile landing in the water 400-500 metres away, and being followed by three small craft," the UKMTO advisory note said, adding that there were no injuries or damage."

reuters.com

Reuters publishes an article with quotes, from a British maritime security firm, Ambrey which stated, "Ambrey had recieved a report", from a "master".

Originally Posted by Neverna

UKMTO is run by the British Royal Navy just outside Portsmouth

I am aware of their "links".

Of course, Ohdoh the useful idiot attempting to downplay the fact that a ruzzian tanker was hit. What a clown.

A little more info here.

Russia's dark fleet of ships kept its oil exports strong. But 2 recent incidents in the Red Sea highlight the risks of that strategy.

Iran-backed Houthi rebels from Yemen targeted a ship carrying Russian oil on Friday.


They likely targeted the ship "mistakenly" as it was listed with a UK owner, said a British security firm.


The ship is part of a "dark fleet" used to transport sanctioned Russian oil, per Lloyd's List.



Despite a G7-imposed price cap and sweeping wartime sanctions, Russia has managed to keep its energy revenues humming thanks to a dark, or shadow, fleet of oil tankers.

However, a recent incident in the Red Sea highlights some of the risks faced by dark fleet ships, which typically have opaque ownership and frequently change their vessel names and flag registrations. The vessels also obscure their locations by switching off their tracking systems.


On Friday, Iran-backed Houthi rebels targeted a Panama tanker transporting Russian oil off the coast of Yemen, according to various reports that cited British maritime security firm Ambrey. The vessel was carrying Russian oil loaded at the port of Ust-Luga.


The missile missed the tanker, which is likely the Khalissa, per Ambrey. That vessel that was sold by Union Maritime, a UK-based company, five months ago. It's not immediately clear who its current owner is.


However, the ship was "still listed as UK-affiliated on a public maritime database," so the Houthis likely targeted it mistakenly, according to Ambrey.

It's not immediately clear where the Khalissa was headed and how it identified itself, but industry publication Lloyd's List said it's one of 560 vessels in a dark fleet that is used to transport sanctioned Russian oil.


"This was the second tanker mistakenly targeted by the Houthis whilst carrying Russian oil," Ambrey added. It's not clear when the first incident happened.


The Houthis have been attacking commercial ships in the Red Sea since November in retaliation for Israel's bombings in Gaza. A senior Houthi official said last month the group will only stop their attacks if Israel's "crimes in Gaza stop and food, medicines and fuel are allowed to reach its besieged population."


The Houthi's attacks in the Red Sea are upending global shipping with major shipping lines, including Maersk and Hapag-Lloyd, changing up their shipping routes to avoid risk.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...gy/ar-AA1mZqxe

Originally Posted by bsnub

downplay the fact that a ruzzian tanker was hit.

By all means present your evidence and their source. Even a "A little more info" would substantiate your assertion.

As shown in:

Originally Posted by OhOh

#47

So far, does not eliminate deliberate false assertions.

Originally Posted by misskit

A little more info here.

^ Your link,

Originally Posted by misskit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...gy/ar-AA1mZqxe

references the same source, which as already illustrated, has no reference to Russia.

"On Friday, Iran-backed Houthi rebels targeted a Panama tanker transporting Russian oil off the coast of Yemen, according to various reports that cited British maritime security firm Ambrey. The vessel was carrying Russian oil loaded at the port of Ust-Luga.

reuters.com

Which has no reference to Russia.

No more evidence within these alleged "various reports", MSM or Reuters, ...... is presented.

Four possibilities:

Originally Posted by misskit

The missile missed the tanker, which is likely the Khalissa, per Ambrey. That vessel that was sold by Union Maritime, a UK-based company, five months ago. It's not immediately clear who its current owner is.


However, the ship was "still listed as UK-affiliated on a public maritime database," so the Houthis likely targeted it mistakenly, according to Ambrey.

A little more info is required, rather than "likely", "not immediately clear", targeted it mistakenly" .... by some, to be acceptable.