Thread: Homelessness soars in rural England as living costs hit poor

LONDON: Homelessness in rural England has risen by 40 per cent in five years with many sleeping in the open air, tents or makeshift shelters, a British rural charity said on Tuesday (Dec 26).
A cost-of-living crisis in the G7 nation and the world's sixth-biggest economy has left many Britons struggling to make ends meet, as bills for food, energy, rent and mortgages increase.


Annual inflation hit a 41-year peak of 11.1 per cent in Oct 2022. While it has come down to 3.9 per cent in November, charities say a range of factors - notably cuts to welfare payments in the last decade and a housing shortage - has exacerbated food poverty and homelessness.


The CPRE charity which campaigns for affordable housing in rural England, said homelessness in the countryside had increased from 17,212 in 2018 to 24,143 in 2023, with wages stagnating and housing costs rising in many areas.


"The sharp rise in rural homelessness shows the real-life impact of record house prices, huge waiting lists for social-rent housing and the boom in second homes and short-term lets," it said.


The charity said 12 local authorities across England - designated as predominantly rural - had levels of rough sleeping higher than the national average of 15 people per 100,000.


"HIDDEN OUT OF SIGHT"


The town of Boston, northeast of London, was England's worst-affected rural local authority for rough sleeping, the charity said.

It said 48 people per 100,000 were sleeping rough in town in Sep 2023, the latest month for which data is available.


Boston was followed by Bedford, north of London with 38 per 100,000, and North Devon in southwest England with 29.


"Unlike those in urban areas, people sleeping rough in the countryside are often hidden out of sight, camping in fields or sheltering in farm buildings," the charity said.


"They are also less likely to have access to support services. This means the analysis, which uses the government's own data, almost certainly underestimates the scale of the crisis."


The charity said 300,000 people are waiting for social housing in rural England - where the average house sells for around £420,000.

FOOD HANDOUTS SOAR


The Shelter charity, meanwhile, said levels of homelessness across England this Christmas are likely to be 14 per cent higher than last year.


It estimated that on any given night in 2023, there were 309,550 people in some form of homelessness, the majority in temporary accommodation.


This is up from its estimate of 271,421 in its 2022 annual report.


The charity blamed a housing emergency for the crisis and warned that the true figure could be higher due to some "hidden homelessness" such as sofa-surfing.


The Trussell Trust, the UK's largest food bank network, said last month that the number of food parcel handouts to people in need has risen to "unprecedented levels" as poverty spread across the country.

It said it had provided 1.5 million emergency food parcels to people between April and September 2023 - a 16 per cent increase on 2022 and the most it has ever distributed at this point in the year.


"This is the highest number of food parcel handouts we have had to give in a six-month period," it said.


"We are expecting this to be our worst winter ever."

Homelessness soars in rural England as living costs hit poor - CNA

The Irish/Chinks/Pakis are stealing our jobs and houses.


I expected better of you Rubba Jonny.

Originally Posted by pickel

People are getting pissed off Willy. And it doesn't make them racist. Keep calling them that though, while offering no realistic solutions, and they may become just that.

Spoken just like a gun toting, dyed in the wool, card carrying hoser.

The issue has fuck all to do with migration.

In the recent census, both national and through local government analysis, there are over one million properties that are not occupied at any one time and of that over 250,000 are unoccupied long term. Second home ownership is not an issue in terms of homelessness except perhaps in the South West.

The problem stems from the fact home ownership and tenancies are beyond the reach of many who continue to live with family or friends.

Properties are there but are economically unavailable.

So, the problem is fiscal.

And that is insoluble given the fact that the British economy is now rooted firmly in home ownership and no significant devaluation will be permitted by any government.

The property market is a function of the credit supply and loan to value has hit ratios whereby 70-80% of individuals are prevented from access to any ownership.

But the system is rigged by the current practice of land banking and land ownership which continues in the hands of a minority of landed gentry and institutions.

And the Green Belt as it currently exists ensures that those vested interests are protected.

There are two significant measures that could change this landscape, barren to many.

Cease the practice of placing inherited wealth into trusts to protect the rich from tax liabilities and scrap the Green Belt system.

Homelessness has fuck all to do with immigrant pressures but everything to do with greed and protecting the interests of the few.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The issue has fuck all to do with migration.

In the recent census, both national and through local government analysis, there are over one million properties that are not occupied at any one time and of that over 250,000 are unoccupied long term. Second home ownership is not an issue in terms of homelessness except perhaps in the South West.

The problem stems from the fact home ownership and tenancies are beyond the reach of many who continue to live with family or friends.

Properties are there but are economically unavailable.

So, the problem is fiscal.

And that is insoluble given the fact that the British economy is now rooted firmly in home ownership and no significant devaluation will be permitted by any government.

The property market is a function of the credit supply and loan to value has hit ratios whereby 70-80% of individuals are prevented from access to any ownership.

But the system is rigged by the current practice of land banking and land ownership which continues in the hands of a minority of landed gentry and institutions.

And the Green Belt as it currently exists ensures that those vested interests are protected.

There are two significant measures that could change this landscape, barren to many.

Cease the practice of placing inherited wealth into trusts to protect the rich from tax liabilities and scrap the Green Belt system.

Homelessness has fuck all to do with immigrant pressures but everything to do with greed and protecting the interests of the few.

Oh fuck,what a medieval snake pit ghastly place,ghastly folk, no wonder wongamat is appealing if you can't afford to live in your own country.

How much does cutting down on psychatric wards have to do with it ?

From a housing perspective (at least in the US) the difference is as an American the ideal life is to live as a family. Husband/Wife/children and privacy. Immigrants however will easily live with 8 to 10 people in a house so all the people will contribute to the mortgage. So all the houses get sucked up which drives up costs. Supply in demand. I used to see this living style routinely. So while a mortgage might be expensive, spread out with 10 people is affordable. But the average folks can't afford it.

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You seem to misunderstand the concept of supply and demand.

Originally Posted by pickel

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You seem to misunderstand the concept of supply and demand.

Property markets do not follow the law of supply and demand not least because transactions cannot be executed contemporaneously as in other markets.

The property market is a function of credit expansion and contraction. The more buyers there are with access to greater debt levels, the more competition there is for the asset available at that time leading to asset inflation.And the demand is also regulated by the demographic which is dynamic.

And of course, you have a political factor which distorts market forces at a whim.

Essentially, if it were simply a case of supply and demand the market would have led to thousands of bankruptcies in 2008/9, with a crash across the board leading to negative equity of 40% for thousands as it did in 1992/3 in the UK. But it didn’t crash because interest rates fell to zero and banks were immunised from default by billions in QE. The unfortunate fallout was of course zero inflation, zero wage increases and years of austerity reducing govt expenditure, services and productivity.

The British experience in a nutshell.

Damn immigrants!

the majority of homeless are social misfits, released criminals, addicted outcasts and the mentally unwell who are unable to function normally whether they are in a house or on the street. shelters are available for the homeless, provided by councils, charities and faith groups but for a variety of reasons (strict rules against drugs, alcohol and violence being some of them) many homeless choose to remain on the street and preserve their freedoms to behave as they want.

increased taxation, onerous safety and environmental regulations that are costly to comply with and the increasingly unpleasant vilification of landlords by the media is resulting in many landlords selling up and those seeking to rent are either forced onto council waiting lists or pushed into renting in "homes of multiple occupation", filthy slums in other words, owned and run by unscrupulous landlords who often belong to the uk's "untouchable" class, and i dont mean white tory capitalists.

better to be an illegal immigrant, you will be provided with health care, food, accommodation and a bucket load of sympathy from the media and the left from day 1.

but for a white british citizen down on your luck with an addiction problem and a frazzled brain, better get your big coat on. its cold out there.

Originally Posted by taxexile

the majority of homeless are social misfits, released criminals, addicted outcasts and the mentally unwell who are unable to function normally whether they are in a house or on the street. shelters are available for the homeless, provided by councils, charities and faith groups but for a variety of reasons (strict rules against drugs, alcohol and violence being some of them) many homeless choose to remain on the street and preserve their freedoms to behave as they wish.

Why the fuck don’t you just say the bloody Welsh and be done with it, Tax.

The property market is broken. Any damn fool except Brexitory fuckwits know that.

Buy to let was an easy ride for many hoping to get provide a tax free pension and a life of feckless indolence as the taxman let the landlords set off their mortgage payments, expenses and maintenance against rental income before paying tax. Great wheeze that saw BTL mortgages rise from about 30,000 in 2000 to over two million in a decade. But balloons burst and the world turns, no one can sell off their properties now except at a discount losing those promised gains back in the day, and many mortgages were interest only. Thousands simply cannot offload except at a loss. And landlords cannot escape their tax liability so easily now. Fuck ‘em, they got greedy and now walk with a fucking stone in their shoe, cry me a river Tax.

You nazi fascists think the illegals are your new Jews Tax but they’re far from it. They share hovels and save their money through hard work and invest in education which generally yields a dividend in gaining a foothold in the middle classes unlike the lower end Engerlish trash addicted to benefits.

Give me illegals any day compared to the Engerlish untermensch.

s.a.

You nazi fascists think the illegals are your new Jews Tax but they’re far from it. They share hovels and save their money through hard work and invest in education which generally yields a dividend in gaining a foothold in the middle classes unlike the lower end Engerlish trash addicted to benefits.

Give me illegals any day compared to the Engerlish untermensch.

you are just another smirking smellysock spouting the kind of dave spartist claptrap that has become the unofficial policy of the treasonous civil service cabal that work to undermine the state.

illegals milk the state with impunity and ethnics get a free pass whilst honest toilers get hammered.

Originally Posted by taxexile

s.a.


you are just another smirking smellysock spouting the kind of dave spartist claptrap that has become the unofficial policy of the treasonous civil service cabal that work to undermine the state.

illegals milk the state with impunity and ethnics get a free pass whilst honest toilers get hammered.

These damn ethnics are all likely to be studying dental.surgery with a view to retiring in Asia and posting up whiney bollocks som.nam na ya soap dodging pikey dipshit packer

Originally Posted by taxexile

s.a.

illegals milk the state with impunity and ethnics get a free pass whilst honest toilers get hammered.

The failures of the UK government are all too obvious. However, Tax continues to believe this sort of utter rubbish.

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the more a government nannies and protects its subjects the less responsibility they will have for themselves.

a government should concentrate on helping those most in need, and not offer an all encompassing system that is doomed to fail when it is overcome by claimants perfectly capable of helping themselves but seeking a free ride. the uk has a system manned by naïve and gullible gatekeepers who in their hand wringing and maudlin sentimentality imagine they are dealing with needy victims when in too many cases they are in fact dealing with scheming cheats adept at gaming an easily gamed system.

personally i wouldnt give them the steam off my piss.

Originally Posted by taxexile

the more a government nannies and protects its subjects the less responsibility they will have for themselves.

The introduction of an ID card, similar to the rest of the EU, would help in tackling illegal immigration and benefit fraud. An NHS card, provided to those with a National Insurance number with an alternative private health insurance, would relieve the pressure on the NHS.

Simple government policies that could easily be explained. Should have done it years ago instead of just moaning about the EU.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Property markets do not follow the law of supply and demand

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

the demand is also regulated by the demographic which is dynamic

Bit of an oxymoron that.

When you don't have enough housing stock for all the people currently living in a country, and you invite another million people in, it creates more demand on an already limited supply, which leads to skyrocketing rents and house prices. It really is that simple.

No, you are quite wrong.

The market in the UK is in stasis, it is paralysed, nothing is moving because in its current state it is inaccessible to 70% of most individuals comprising society who earn less than, say, £38,000 per annum which exceeds the median annual salary in the UK. The multiplier currently operating to gain a mortgage is four times income yet the the average property ( an arbitrary term given each segment in a differing location has an average differing from the other ) is allegedly £290,000 a price that obviously is beyond the average earner and could only be met if a deposit of near 50% is lodged, an impossibility for most.

There are over a million properties in the UK left unoccupied for significant periods and of that over a quarter of a million are empty for more than a year.

Migration has fuck all to do with it. The market is not performing because it has been distorted to a degree that reflects the economics dictated by the 2008 banking crash in combination with populist measures protecting self interest, institutions and a political party bereft of intelligence and integrity.

Migration is a factor generally cited by simplistic oafs and the intellectual lazy.

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I was referring to Canada not having enough housing stock. We don't have a million properties sitting vacant, and we've let in more than a million people in the last year. I'm not against immigration, but we don't have the infrastructure for it, and are not doing enough to fix that. It is insanely expensive for housing here. And calling everyone a racist oaf, while not fixing the problem, only opens the door to far right populist governments getting elected.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

The Irish/Chinks/Pakis are stealing our jobs and houses.

Originally Posted by david44

I have no issue with movement a an immigrant all my life but if increae pop by 14% you need more accommodation

Agree pertinent analysis, however i disagree with your coda

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

In the recent census, both national and through local government analysis, there are over one million properties that are not occupied at any one time and of that over 250,000 are unoccupied long term.

true but 40 x arrived if you read not my views but official stats

Originally Posted by david44

10,388,000 people in England and Wales who were not born in the UK

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

And that is insoluble given the fact that the British economy is now rooted firmly in home ownership and no significant devaluation will be permitted by any government.

The property market is a function of the credit supply and loan to value has hit ratios whereby 70-80% of individuals are prevented from access to any ownership.

But the system is rigged by the current practice of land banking and land ownership which continues in the hands of a minority of landed gentry and institutions.

And the Green Belt as it currently exists ensures that those vested interests are protected.

There are two significant measures that could change this landscape, barren to many.

Cease the practice of placing inherited wealth into trusts to protect the rich from tax liabilities and scrap the Green Belt system.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Homelessness has fuck all to do with immigrant pressures but everything to do with greed and protecting the interests of the few.

Originally Posted by thailazer

It is interesting to note the polarization of humans as they either want to help others or help themselves. Finland has done a g

Kittos the salvos of nokia would sweep urban drunk heikis when i ws there the rural ones inRovaniemi -7 in day now and lower at night freeze.

Regardless of economis 10 million will add pressure, tax sa and many others like me mendy and switch have eased uk demand

ID cards in the UK have always been seen as an infringement of ones human rights. personally I cant see the logic in that. regularly proving proving ones identity is a necessity these days and in the UK involves showing one or more of your driving licence, passport, council tax and utility bills or going through a lengthy rigmarole for online use.

the reason they were never introduced has nothing to do with the EU, and more to do with obstructive human rights lawyers, political wrangling, ethnic groups worried about data privacy, the usual mobs of scruffy scroungers who will object to anything just for the sake of it and handwringing bean counters fretting over the cost of setting up such a scheme and ensuring it was fool-proof.

i would be very happy to have an ID card that proved both my ID and my right to access services.


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