^ so that's a no.
Will you ever lose your tendency to keep falling flat on your face, do you think?
^ Y'know, sometimes better to stay quiet and let them think you a fool, than put it in writing and prove it-
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The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has said Poland is in breach of international law in forcing migrants back into Belarus instead of allowing them to claim asylum. EU law clearly forbids the practice of sending away asylum seekers without assessing their claim for protection.[/QUOTE]
Situation on Belarus-Poland border compared with genocide against refugees
Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic broke EU law by failing to accept refugees, rules ECJ | Euronews
'To avoid abuses, European law, the Dublin Regulation, requires that asylum seekers have their asylum claim registered in the first country they arrive in, and that the decision of the first EU country they apply in is the final decision in all EU countries.'
Cough cough
Yes, polite cough.
Human Rights Advocates Condemn 'Intolerable' Abuse of Refugees Trapped at Poland-Belarus Border"I have just flown out of Iran which is receiving up to 5,000 Afghans a day," noted Jan Egeland, secretary general of the NRC. "A few thousand people at Europe's Polish border, many of whom have fled some of the worst crises in the world, is a drop in the ocean compared to the number of people displaced to countries that are much poorer elsewhere."
"The way Belarus is using migrants and refugees to achieve political ends is equally outrageous," Egeland continued. "Vulnerable people are not chess pawns to be used in a geopolitical struggle. But this does not in any way free Europe from its responsibility to ensure that people turning up on our borders are allowed to seek asylum and are treated humanely... European values are dangerously under threat when people are allowed to die from hypothermia at its external border."
The amount of II's arriving from central America to USA dwarfs European numbers. The amount of refugees in Italy and Greece dwarf the paltry numbers at the Polish border. The amount of refugees Iran is taking daily dwarfs this little spat between Poland and Belarus. And France does nothing to stop the daily flow of II's to the UK- and the UK is not even sanctioning it! But all we are reading about in MSM is nawty Belarus, with very little heat on fascist Poland and it's human rights violations, and flagrant breaking of EU and UN law. Really EU?
I'd rather put them all on a plane back to where they came from, than allow one terrorist in who goes on to kill innocent civilians. I get that these people have been through some horrendous experiences and our governments are to blame for all of it. However, there is a proper way to apply for asylum which keeps everyone safe and that system makes sure the most needy and authentic applicants are able to emigrate. Allowing this to go on just fills up vacancies, time and money which should have gone to proper asylum seekers who truly do need our help.
Indeed- so Whatabout fascist Poland, kicking up such a big fuss when they've got a fraction of the problem of other countries, including several poorer countries? Grow up, and be a member of the EU (or better still- EU kick these fascists out).
Try reading and understanding your quoted law, prior to illustrating your bigotry to all here on TD.
Dublin Regulation
"The Dublin Regulation (Regulation No. 604/2013; sometimes the Dublin III Regulation; previously the Dublin II Regulation and Dublin Convention) is a European Union (EU) law that determines which EU Member State is responsible for the examination of an application for asylum, submitted by persons seeking international protection under the Geneva Convention and the EU Qualification Directive, within the European Union. It is the cornerstone of the Dublin System, which consists of the Dublin Regulation and the EURODAC Regulation, which establishes a Europe-wide fingerprinting database for unauthorised entrants to the EU. The Dublin Regulation aims to "determine rapidly the Member State responsible [for an asylum claim]"[1] and provides for the transfer of an asylum seeker to that Member State."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation
A list of the EU countries that the European Union law apply too:
"The EU countries are: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden."
The European country, Belarus, does not appear in the official list, and thus it can be concluded by reasonable TD members, not to be an EU country.
Thus, the law has no bearing on Belarus.
Last edited by OhOh; 18-11-2021 at 11:01 AM.
A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.
I will explain it to you as if you were a child because you obviously can't understand an adult sentence. So I am basically saying, I am for asylum seekers who are genuine and not for asylum seekers who aren't. The one's who are not genuine take up the places of genuine asylum seekers and therefore some may be persecuted unnecessarily because of the extended time they have had to wait in their country of origin.
Maybe you should look up the word 'bigot' before making the massive leap to lawyer and lecturing others on the definition of a law. Did you even know about this law before today?
The refugees aren't in Poland yet so it is not their responsibility.
The law has been around for years, 2013 IIRC. The EU continues to fund concentration camps in Turkey to this day.
A NATO created problem, ME illegal wars, the NATO countries failed to anticipate.
Similarly, further east, Afghanistan and south, Libya, Africa, South America and Central Europe.
NATO/SS SS.
SOP, "Smash, Splatter, Starve, Skedaddle and Slur".
"Bigot".
"a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group."
Who are you to decide who is genuine and who is fake? What evidence would satisfy you.
None on the boarder, I suggest, have been interviewed by an EU competent adult official, so far.
Do you have a copy of his invitation to the 1,000's at the border?
To share with us, just to substantiate your opinion.
You may wish to review this, or you may have more up-to-date info to share:
EU and Belarus Sign Visa Facilitation and Readmission Agreements
05/07/2021
"After years of negotiation, representatives of the Republic of Belarus and of the European Union signed agreements to facilitate Schengen visa procedures and readmit individuals staying on either side without authorization.
The documents were signed in a ceremony that took place in Brussels, Belgium, by the following delegates of Belarus and the European Union:
- Vladimir Makei, Belarusian Minister of Foreign Affairs
- Davor Bozinovic, Croatian Internal Affairs Minister and Deputy Prime Minister
- Ylva Johansson, European Commissioner for Home Affairs
As per Bozinovic’s declarations during the ceremony, visa statistics point to strong ties between Belarus and the EU. According to Bozinovic’s statement, almost 700,000 Belarusian citizens applied for a Schengen visa in 2018 alone, most of which were multiple-entry visas.
"Belarus is a country with a high number of issued Schengen visas and a low percentage of denials," Bozinovic added.
After the agreements were signed, the Belarusian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Vladimir Makei met with Helga Schmid, Secretary-General of the European External Action Service and Johannes Hahn, European Commissioner for Budget and Administration, to discuss aspects of the bilateral cooperation within the framework of the Eastern Partnership Initiative.
Belarus-EU Visa Facilitation and Readmission Key Aspects
The agreement signed by the EU and Belarus in January 2020 aims for mutual facilitation of visa procedures as well as the reduction of visa fees for Belarusians.
As per the agreement signed, Belarusian passport holders will have the opportunity to apply for visas at embassies and visa centers of European Union nations.
Once the readmission agreement comes into effect, Belarus and the European Union will have to readmit the following individuals who do not meet the requirements to legally stay within each other's territory:
- Their own citizens
- Third-country citizens
- Stateless persons
The Republic of Belarus will be conceded a two-year period to transition in regard to the readmission of third-country citizens. The common declaration attached to the readmission arrangement requires the European Union to lend both technical and financial support to Belarus in this field."
EU and Belarus Sign Visa Facilitation and Readmission AgreementsAlso this:
Travel visas for Belarus
"In addition to that, Belarus offers several visa-free travel programs with varying duration and terms of stay. Thus, travelers who would normally need a visa to come to Belarus, can visit the country under a simplified procedure.
Travelers may opt for one of them:
- to 30 days
No visas are required provided travelers cross the Belarusian border via Minsk National Airport, "Airport Brest", "Airport Gomel", "Airport Grodno", "Airport Mogilev", "Airport Vitebsk". The given order of visa-free movement through the airports does not extend to persons coming to Belarus by plane from the Russian Federation.
- to 15 days
No visas are required to visit visa-free tourist zone (including the country's large cities of Grodno and Brest) provided travelers have a special document issued by a certified travel agency in their home country."
https://www.belarus.by/en/travel/travel-visas
Last edited by OhOh; 18-11-2021 at 06:15 PM.
Perhaps you should read other peoples' posts in this thread rather than just posting your fucking nonsense and then awkwardly trying to pat yourself on the back.
Anyway, the chancers are all going back home, which is good.
They aren't asylum seekers anyway.
Iraqis check in for flight home after failing to enter EU from Belarus | ReutersBAGHDAD, Nov 18 (Reuters) - Hundreds of Iraqis who have camped for weeks at Belarus' borders with the EU checked in for a flight back to Iraq on Thursday, the Iraqi foreign ministry said.
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The EU response has been surprisingly united, and basically I think this whole thing has backfired on the Lukashenko regime- who are definitely complicit in providing a corridor for undocumented migration to the EU. Assuming the pipeline has stopped- namely the flights that facilitated this thing- then what remains are the pawns in no mans land, stuck between two pretty arsehole regimes. I wonder what arrangements will end up being made for them?
The EU attitude to illegal migration has definitely hardened. Fortress Europe now. Can't say as I blame them- given the experiences of the current century.
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