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    Guilty

    Chauvin guilty on all 3 charges.

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    To be honest, I don't know if he is guilty or not, and if guilty , of what?
    There was very little room for an innocents decision given the political climate, threat of violence, and the fact that the city had already admitted guilt by paying out a very big and widely publicized settlement.
    I am sure the case will be appealed and once forgotten, the real trial will commence at a natural venue.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Watching that 9+ minute video, I don’t know how anyone could reach any other conclusion. IMO, that is the very definition of depraved indifference to human life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I don't know if he is guilty or not
    ...because you didn't see the pic of Chauvin crushing the victim's neck...or perhaps the clear image of blatant police brutality must be a hoax...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...because you didn't see the pic of Chauvin crushing the victim's neck...or perhaps the clear image of blatant police brutality must be a hoax...
    HIs comment is just obscene, much like the Trump "I don't know if this election got stolen or not..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
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    Watching that 9+ minute video, I don’t know how anyone could reach any other conclusion. IMO, that is the very definition of depraved indifference to human life.
    I have not watched any of it, frankly I have better things to do with my life that to be subjected to the dempster fire that is American politics, It is very possible and probable that the cop in question is a thug , and as such after a fair trial he should be punished for the crime he committed. but I am sure the trial was politically tainted and as such the assertion will be made that it was not fair. , I am willing to give 10 to 1 odds it will be appealed , and I am pretty sure that the appeal will be based on the grounds that in view of the city's settlement with the family, and the refusal to move the trial to a different venue, the Jury pool was tainted. If I was his lawyer that's where I would be going.
    Knowing as little as I do about the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I have not watched any of it, frankly I have better things to do with my life that to be subjected to the dempster fire that is American politics
    You should have stopped there, and we might have believed you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    You should have stopped there, and we might have believed you.
    Why would you not believe any of the rest I had to say. Where do you think I lied?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Knowing as little as I do about the case
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    I am sure the trial was politically tainted

    how can you be so sure with so little knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    how can you be so sure with so little knowledge?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    how can you be so sure with so little knowledge?
    Because it was reported that the city settled with the family for a very large amount. I think 22 million dollars. It was also reported that the lawyers for the cop in view of that settlement and the de facto acknowledgment it implied, filed for a change of venue for the trial, the argument being that the present venue was tainted, and were refused.
    When I said I did not watch the trial, it did not mean that I am totally ignorant of of the facts surrounding this case.
    All that I said above are facts , IMO it would be dereliction of duty for the cops payers not to pursue that avenue.
    Unless he gets a very lite sentence and they don't want to risk an appeal , I will be very surprised if they do not appeal.

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    So you think cops should get off as long as a payment to the victims family is made?

    You'll fit right in in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Why would you not believe any of the rest I had to say.
    Because you went ahead and said it anyway right after saying you had better things to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I have not watched any of it
    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Knowing as little as I do about the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I am totally ignorant of of the facts surrounding this case
    ...so, any opinion you express is best described as "uninformed" then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    how can you be so sure with so little knowledge?
    He seems very familiar with that state. That in itself may result in certitude.

    cf russellsimpson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Because you went ahead and said it anyway right after saying you had better things to do.
    I said I have better things to do than watch the trial, I did not say I don't follow the news. Every morning I log on to Google news, I scan all the headlines , if I find anything interesting I look further into it, if it is behind a paywall as it often is, I google the headline and look to see what other sources have to say. Once I know enough , I leave it along.
    I know you might not think so but I know enough about the Chauvin affair, and what I said is going to happen , will happen.

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    As far as the trial is concerned. Notice I made no assertions about the actual trial . the only assertion that I made is that events leading to it have tainted the process and that IMO it will be appealed.
    Does anyone have anything to say about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I have not watched any of it, frankly I have better things to do with my life that to be subjected to the dempster fire that is American politics, It is very possible and probable that the cop in question is a thug , and as such after a fair trial he should be punished for the crime he committed. but I am sure the trial was politically tainted and as such the assertion will be made that it was not fair. , I am willing to give 10 to 1 odds it will be appealed , and I am pretty sure that the appeal will be based on the grounds that in view of the city's settlement with the family, and the refusal to move the trial to a different venue, the Jury pool was tainted. If I was his lawyer that's where I would be going.
    Knowing as little as I do about the case.
    Your last sentence makes all the foregoing a little bit bizarre tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    So you think cops should get off as long as a payment to the victims family is made?

    You'll fit right in in Thailand.
    I fit fine in Thailand thank you very much, but not because of anything you had to say. Where did I said or implied that "cops should get off as long as a payment to the victims family is made "

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    He seems very familiar with that state. That in itself may result in certitude.

    cf russellsimpson
    Touché

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Once I know enough , I leave it along.
    alone.

    You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    To be honest, I don't know if he is guilty or not, and if guilty , of what?
    Maybe you should read the charges. They are quite clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I have not watched any of it, frankly I have better things to do with my life that to be subjected to the dempster fire that is American politics, It is very possible and probable that the cop in question is a thug , and as such after a fair trial he should be punished for the crime he committed. but I am sure the trial was politically tainted and as such the assertion will be made that it was not fair. , I am willing to give 10 to 1 odds it will be appealed , and I am pretty sure that the appeal will be based on the grounds that in view of the city's settlement with the family, and the refusal to move the trial to a different venue, the Jury pool was tainted. If I was his lawyer that's where I would be going.
    Knowing as little as I do about the case.
    It would have got appealed anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    As far as the trial is concerned. Notice I made no assertions about the actual trial . the only assertion that I made is that events leading to it have tainted the process and that IMO it will be appealed.
    Does anyone have anything to say about that?
    Yes. It would have got appealed anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Your last sentence makes all the foregoing a little bit bizarre tbh.
    Case being the trial, which is what I thought we were talking about

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