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    Native Americans, Polynesians shared DNA 800 years ago

    Paris (AFP) - Native Americans and Polynesians bridged vast expanses of open ocean around the year 1200 and mingled, leaving incontrovertible proof of their encounter in the DNA of present-day populations, scientists revealed Wednesday.


    Whether peoples from what is today Colombia or Ecuador drifted thousands of kilometres to tiny islands in the middle of the Pacific, or whether seafaring Polynesians sailed upwind to South America and then back again is still unknown.


    But what is certain, according to a study in Nature, is that the hook up took place hundreds of years before Europeans set foot in either region, and left individuals scattered across French Polynesia with signature traces of the New World in their DNA.


    "These findings change our understanding of one of the most unknown chapters in the history of our species' great continental expansions," senior author Andreas Moreno-Estrada, principal investigator at Mexico's National Laboratory of Genomics for biodiversity, told AFP.

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    Fascinating topic, which we're really just starting to discover. Especially in regards to the pacific and Australasia.


    Dr. Alice Roberts has a very good 5 part series called The Incredible Human Journey (2009) about the rise and spread of humans around the World.

    BBC - The Incredible Human Journey -1 of 5 -Out of Africa_arc.avi - video dailymotion


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    When Europeans got to Polynesia the South American sweet potato was already there.
    And chickens arrived in the Americas before Columbus.

    South America isn’t upwind of Polynesia if you sail the right way which is southeast then east then north (in the Humboldt current).
    Polynesians found Easter Island which is a long way from anywhere though they didn’t settle the Juan Fernandez islands.
    Last edited by docmartin; 09-07-2020 at 06:38 PM.

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    . . . and Pasifika originate in Taiwan.

    New research into language evolution suggests most Pacific populations originated in Taiwan around 5,200 years ago.

    Pacific people spread from taiwan, language evolution, study shows -- ScienceDaily
    They've gained a few few kgs and cms since then, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    . . . and Pasifika originate in Taiwan.



    They've gained a few few kgs and cms since then, though
    Possibly because they picked up some Melanesian genes on the way.

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    All this sort of stuff is fascinating.

    I was just talking with a friend about the Hawaii - NZ links and cultural and language similarities despite the 7,000+ km separation the other day.

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    Strictly speaking they are Hawaiian-Tongan-Samoan etc . . . links as Maori settled from there a couple of hundred years ago. Those Polynesians again. Quite the world travellers.

    Just call me Mr Pedantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    Just call me Mr Pedantic.
    But I can think of so much worse!


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    . . . like the colour of my hair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Fascinating topic, which we're really just starting to discover. Especially in regards to the pacific and Australasia.


    Dr. Alice Roberts has a very good 5 part series called The Incredible Human Journey (2009) about the rise and spread of humans around the World.

    BBC - The Incredible Human Journey -1 of 5 -Out of Africa_arc.avi - video dailymotion


    Download The Incredible Human Journey BBC Torrent | 1337x


    There has long been a small group of daring and challenging "fringe" social scientists that had most of these alternative theories down ages ago.
    Almost always a threat to the stodgy convention of the historical/archaeological/anthropological narrow establishment....and control.

    We should continue to keep in mind that things are almost never what they appear to be - especially within the depths of institutional social science circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmartin View Post
    When Europeans got to Polynesia the South American sweet potato was already there.
    And chickens arrived in the America’s before Columbus.

    South America isn’t upwind of Polynesia if you sail the right way which is southeast then east then north (in the Humboldt current).
    Polynesians found Easter Island which is a long way from anywhere though they didn’t settle the Juan Fernandez islands.


    Ancient Asians were interacting with Western Hemisphere populations centuries before the fashion took hold.
    Diffusion of a criss-crossing manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    We should continue to keep in mind that things are almost never what they appear to be - especially within the depths of institutional social science circles.

    Except DNA studies are not social science. so FOJ.

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    Don't worry. We are all descendants of rape.

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    Never looked at it like that, filth we are and always have been.

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