Turkey issues ultimatum to Europe

[HermantheGerman]

‘Waiting until October’: Turkey issues ultimatum to EU over visa-free travel
Published time: 31 Jul, 2016 18:42

Turkey will not fulfill its part of the refugee deal with the EU if the bloc does not lift its visa requirements for Turkish citizens by October, Turkey’s foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, told a German daily.
Turkey’s fulfillment of its commitments under the refugee deal with the EU “depends on the lifting of visa requirements for our citizens that is also a subject of the agreement,” Cavusoglu said during an exclusive interview with Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

The minister also stressed that the Turkish government is waiting for a “specific deadline” to be set for the lifting of visa requirements. “It can be early or mid-October but we wait for an exact date,” he said.

Cavusoglu also emphasized that his words are “not a threat,” but added that “if there is no visa abolition, we will be forced to abandon the agreement struck on March 18 concerning taking back [refugees].”

He also said that the deal is working only because Turkey is taking “very serious measures” to stop the refugee inflow, particularly in fighting people smugglers.

Under the agreement signed in March, Brussels pledged to pay Turkey €6 billion, grant visa-free travel to Turkish nationals, and speed up EU accession talks with Ankara. In exchange, Turkey agreed to take back all illegal migrants and refugees that reach Greece via Turkey, while allowing a certain number of asylum seekers to travel to the EU legally.

The deal came into force on March 20. The visa-free pass was initially to be introduced by July, however, Turkey has failed to comply with all of the EU’s 72 criteria for lifting the visa requirement, including relaxing its stringent anti-terror legislation, which has become a sticking point in negotiations.

The situation was further complicated by the failed coup attempt in Turkey on July 15, as many EU officials and politicians have voiced concern over the Turkish government’s crackdown on fundamental rights. Some have stressed that the foiled rebellion must not be used as a “carte blanche for arbitrariness.”

The possible re-introduction of the death penalty in Turkey has caused particular concern in Europe. EU Foreign Policy Chief Federica Mogherini has warned that no country with capital punishment can become an EU member, and German government spokesman Steffen Seibert said that bringing back the death penalty would lead to an “immediate suspension of accession talks.”

In the meantime, on Sunday, Greece raised the alarm over an increasing influx of refugees from Turkey, stressing that the number of new arrivals had grown significantly following the foiled coup. Some people in Greece have even compared the present situation to that which had existed before the deal with Turkey was struck.

Athens also said that it has evidence that Turkey is already going back on its promises.

https://www.rt.com/news/354094-turke...isa-ultimatum/

[wasabi]

Thank god we voted to Leave the EU

[DrB0b]

Thank god we voted to Leave the EU

At an undetertimed time in the future. Plenty of time for a few million Turks to get nicely settled in

[Dragonfly94]

Thank god we voted to Leave the EU

At an undetertimed time in the future. Plenty of time for a few million Turks to get nicely settled in

Lets hope they all head for St Albans then

[piwanoi]

‘Waiting until October’: Turkey issues ultimatum to EU over visa-free travel
Published time: 31 Jul, 2016 18:42

Turkey will not fulfill its part of the refugee deal with the EU if the bloc does not lift its visa requirements for Turkish citizens by October, Turkey’s foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, told a German daily.
Turkey’s fulfillment of its commitments under the refugee deal with the EU “depends on the lifting of visa requirements for our citizens that is also a subject of the agreement,” Cavusoglu said during an exclusive interview with Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

The minister also stressed that the Turkish government is waiting for a “specific deadline” to be set for the lifting of visa requirements. “It can be early or mid-October but we wait for an exact date,” he said.

Cavusoglu also emphasized that his words are “not a threat,” but added that “if there is no visa abolition, we will be forced to abandon the agreement struck on March 18 concerning taking back [refugees].”

He also said that the deal is working only because Turkey is taking “very serious measures” to stop the refugee inflow, particularly in fighting people smugglers.

Under the agreement signed in March, Brussels pledged to pay Turkey €6 billion, grant visa-free travel to Turkish nationals, and speed up EU accession talks with Ankara. In exchange, Turkey agreed to take back all illegal migrants and refugees that reach Greece via Turkey, while allowing a certain number of asylum seekers to travel to the EU legally.

The deal came into force on March 20. The visa-free pass was initially to be introduced by July, however, Turkey has failed to comply with all of the EU’s 72 criteria for lifting the visa requirement, including relaxing its stringent anti-terror legislation, which has become a sticking point in negotiations.

The situation was further complicated by the failed coup attempt in Turkey on July 15, as many EU officials and politicians have voiced concern over the Turkish government’s crackdown on fundamental rights. Some have stressed that the foiled rebellion must not be used as a “carte blanche for arbitrariness.”

The possible re-introduction of the death penalty in Turkey has caused particular concern in Europe. EU Foreign Policy Chief Federica Mogherini has warned that no country with capital punishment can become an EU member, and German government spokesman Steffen Seibert said that bringing back the death penalty would lead to an “immediate suspension of accession talks.”

In the meantime, on Sunday, Greece raised the alarm over an increasing influx of refugees from Turkey, stressing that the number of new arrivals had grown significantly following the foiled coup. Some people in Greece have even compared the present situation to that which had existed before the deal with Turkey was struck.

Athens also said that it has evidence that Turkey is already going back on its promises.

https://www.rt.com/news/354094-turke...isa-ultimatum/

It would appear that Germany has got its hands full with Turks already living there in Germany , interesting comments on the article too Pro-Erdogan demo: 50,000 take to streets of Cologne, Germany, in Turkey protest | World | News | Daily Express

[sabang]

One thing about Turks- I don't recall any of them being behind any of these terrorist atrocities in the west. At least not yet.

[taxexile]

^
and one thing about those with turkish passports, not all of them are turks.

[Seekingasylum]

Piwanoi, you gormless ignoramus, Johnny Turk was used by the Hun in their thousands as skivvies for their economic miracle in much the same way they used Geordies. They were gastarbeiters and once amassing their fortunes the Turk would return to Turkey to open his pension/ restaurant/ car mechanic business or remain with his family and have his children grow up to play football for the national team or fuckimg Arsenal, you twat.

So several millions quite happily settled in Hun land and became krauts. How different is that to the several millions Pakis, Indians, Chinese, Sri Lankans, Australians, South Africans etc who settled in the UK, you nasty, pitiful little white racist fuxkhead?

Blue collar oiks really are the bane of this forum.

Anyway, the Turk agreement regarding visa less travel only extended to Schengen countries and never posed s 'threat' to the UK which incidentally already has a sizeable Kurdish Turk community of several hundred thousands as witnessed by the kebab culture much enjoyed by most folk.

It's a fucking related world out there but most here are just pig ignorant mofo white farts, presumably with small dicks commensurate with their mentality.

[jabir]

Piwanoi, you gormless ignoramus, Johnny Turk was used by the Hun in their thousands as skivvies for their economic miracle in much the same way they used Geordies. They were gastarbeiters and once amassing their fortunes the Turk would return to Turkey to open his pension/ restaurant/ car mechanic business or remain with his family and have his children grow up to play football for the national team or fuckimg Arsenal, you twat.

So several millions quite happily settled in Hun land and became krauts. How different is that to the several millions Pakis, Indians, Chinese, Sri Lankans, Australians, South Africans etc who settled in the UK, you nasty, pitiful little white racist fuxkhead?

Blue collar oiks really are the bane of this forum.

Anyway, the Turk agreement regarding visa less travel only extended to Schengen countries and never posed s 'threat' to the UK which incidentally already has a sizeable Kurdish Turk community of several hundred thousands as witnessed by the kebab culture much enjoyed by most folk.

It's a fucking related world out there but most here are just pig ignorant mofo white farts, presumably with small dicks commensurate with their mentality.

Those magic specs allow you to see only what keeps you comfortable.

[harrybarracuda]

They were gastarbeiters and once amassing their fortunes the Turk would return to Turkey to open his pension/ restaurant/ car mechanic business or remain with his family and have his children grow up to play football for the national team or fuckimg Arsenal, you twat.

Dickhead. Try Blackburn.

Bülent Akın – Bolton Wanderers – 2002–03
Alpay – Aston Villa – 2000–04
Yıldıray Baştürk – Blackburn Rovers – 2009–10
Emre Belözoğlu – Newcastle United – 2005–08
Kerim Frei – Fulham – 2011–13
Muzzy Izzet – Leicester City, Birmingham City – 1996–2002, 2003–06
Jem Karacan – Reading – 2012–13
Colin Kazim-Richards – Sheffield United – 2006–07
Nuri Şahin – Liverpool – 2012–13
Hakan Şükür – Blackburn Rovers – 2002–03
Tugay – Blackburn Rovers – 2001–09
Tuncay – Middlesbrough, Stoke City, Bolton Wanderers – 2007–12
Hakan Ünsal – Blackburn Rovers – 2001–02

[Seekingasylum]

Donkeys and journeymen.

[harrybarracuda]

Donkeys and journeymen.

Jumpers for goalposts.

[HermantheGerman]

Hope Trump kicks that goat fucker* in the ass:

Trump threatens Turkey sanctions over pastor Andrew Brunson

US President Donald Trump and Vice-President Mike Pence have threatened Turkey with sanctions if it fails to release jailed pastor Andrew Brunson.
The evangelical from North Carolina has been in detention for nearly two years, accused of having links to banned political groups.
However, President Trump demanded his immediate release, or Turkey, a Nato ally, would face "large sanctions".
The Turkish foreign ministry called the US demands "unacceptable".
"No-one can give orders to Turkey and threaten our country," said spokesperson Hami Aksoy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44974722



* https://nltimes.nl/2017/12/19/erdoga...twitter-mascot
https://www.thelocal.de/20160406/ger...ulting-erdogan

[Neverna]

US President Donald Trump and Vice-President Mike Pence have threatened Turkey with sanctions if it fails to release jailed pastor Andrew Brunson.

We can't have foreign countries jailng American criminals! Heaven forbid! Americans should be able to do anything they want anywhere in the world without recourse (except in the US, of course). Americans are exceptional people from an exceptional country. Tell 'em, Trumpy!

[jabir]

^
and one thing about those with turkish passports, not all of them are turks.

Even fewer will be Turks once visa-free travel kicks in and Erdogan miraculously sees the light and becomes a kind, humanitarian leader giving Syrian and other refugees citizenship and a one-way ticket to Europe.

But Euro-leaders believe that won't happen; anyone still trust them?

[TuskegeeBen]

^
and one thing about those with turkish passports, not all of them are turks.

Exactamundo! Especially now, that Erdogan has granted Turkish citizenship to one million plus Syrians,..from what I've been told.

[Pragmatic]

It would appear that Germany has got its hands full with Turks already living there in Germany

I was stationed in Germany first time in '72-'73 and Germany had its problem with Turks then. Bad bastards. Always carried knives and were prepared to use them.

[Seekingasylum]

It would appear that Germany has got its hands full with Turks already living there in Germany

I was stationed in Germany first time in '72-'73 and Germany had its problem with Turks then. Bad bastards. Always carried knives and were prepared to use them.

Your squaddie insights are of inestimable value although in the context of migration and inherent prejudices spawned by it, how many Huns do you think were mightily pissed off with the drunken, violent lower class British ranker raping and assaulting the local population and generally misbehaving according to their time honored scummy rituals so typical of the non commissioned classes and highlighted by Wellington as early as the 1800s?

[terry57]

Scummy rituals so typical of the non commissioned classes and highlighted by Wellington as early as the 1800s?

The officers are just as bad but a lot smarter than the dumb arsed regular guys.

The Officers do not get caught.

[jabir]

It would appear that Germany has got its hands full with Turks already living there in Germany

I was stationed in Germany first time in '72-'73 and Germany had its problem with Turks then. Bad bastards. Always carried knives and were prepared to use them.

Nothing's changed. When Erdogan visited Germany some years back he told his people that integration with the host is a crime against humanity, just before reiterating his claim that "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the Muslim faithful our soldiers."

At around the same time Merkel acknowledged that Islam is Germany's future (EU Times, Sep 21st, 2010), and admonished Germans to accept this, which preceded yet another coincidence as then Pres. Sarkozy chimed in to berate the French for not accepting the Muslim newcomers and insisting they must join with them because this is the destiny of France. That was six years ago, and slipped beneath the mainstream radar.

When the most powerful EU leaders publicly concede their national future to Islam, it is reasonable to expect that most other European leaders are of the same mind, or too timid to confront. But Europe's been asleep so long it won't be waking up any time soon.

As I said before, a child born this century in Europe will within his lifetime become either a Muslim or a dhimmi. And if that sounds harsh here's something more to consider: most Europeans still don't even know what a dhimmi is.

[Seekingasylum]

most Europeans still don't even know what a dhimmi is.

Of course we do, it's a not so bright dummy.

Grief, who gives a flying fuck about what heathen savages think. In the end, there is only one thing that matters and that is power which in turns confers wealth. The heathen savage had only oil but with the advent of shale oil/gas they no longer have the market to themselves.

Anyway, the current balance of power is firmly set between USA, Russia, China and the EU. Muslims in terms of anything remotely important are merely incidental and probably akin to the common cold.

Ultimately, does anyone truly think Indonesia or Iraq are worth anything other than as consumers?

[jabir]

most Europeans still don't even know what a dhimmi is.

Of course we do, it's a not so bright dummy.

Grief, who gives a flying fuck about what heathen savages think. In the end, there is only one thing that matters and that is power which in turns confers wealth. The heathen savage had only oil but with the advent of shale oil/gas they no longer have the market to themselves.

Anyway, the current balance of power is firmly set between USA, Russia, China and the EU. Muslims in terms of anything remotely important are merely incidental and probably akin to the common cold.

Ultimately, does anyone truly think Indonesia or Iraq are worth anything other than as consumers?

I must have missed it, when did they discover a cure for the common cold?

[Pragmatic]

Your squaddie insights are of inestimable value although in the context of migration and inherent prejudices spawned by it, how many Huns do you think were mightily pissed off with the drunken, violent lower class British ranker raping and assaulting the local population and generally misbehaving according to their time honored scummy rituals so typical of the non commissioned classes and highlighted by Wellington as early as the 1800s?

Quite right Thegent. How long was Wellington stationed there for?

[VocalNeal]

Well the Turks in Germany have many problems. One of which is that now robots, not Turks build all the cars!

[piwanoi]

Well the Turks in Germany have many problems. One of which is that now robots, not Turks build all the cars!

Robots have destroyed millions of jobs already and the way things are going will destroy millions more .