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Tis a very old northern, lower middle class, image, she needs to keep up with the times. Notice the slight tilt of the head? Some over exaggerate the amount of tilt.Quote:
Originally Posted by david44
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=13663&stc=1
Obviously Julia has been "taught", possibly by cattle pronging in the Thameside dungeons, to keep her head straight at all times to suggest she is in control of her bodily functions.
"reasoned counter response" to the fanciful spoutings of your vivid imagination?Quote:
Originally Posted by Listerman
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Before 006 1/2 steps in let me point out that should be cattle prodding. Funny but probably not far from the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Wow everyone's at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Begbie
Alternatively she just wrote a statement, had it translated by a lackey in the FO who added a bit of artistic license, but she still wants Putin to fuck off.
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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Didn't I say 'arry knows answer to any remark? (has "a clue")...Quote:
Alternatively she just wrote a statement, had it translated by a lackey in the FO who added a bit of artistic license, but she still wants Putin to fuck off.
Russian ex-spy Sergei Skripal has been discharged from hospital, two months after being poisoned with a nerve agent in Salisbury.Quote:
Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance
Ex-spy Sergei Skripal discharged after poisoning - BBC News
The Skripal Case Is Being Pushed Down the Memory Hole with Libya and Aleppo
https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...ya-aleppo.html
The daughter is still alive too, right?Quote:
On the fourth of March, in the sleepy British cathedral town of Salisbury, an ex-spy named Sergei Skripal was poisoned by an assassin with the most deadly nerve agent known to man.
The Russian government was immediately blamed by a shocked and outraged world. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson assured the people of Great Britain that “There’s no doubt” that Moscow was responsible. In a large and sudden leap forward in cold war escalations, Russian diplomats were thrown out of countries all around the globe, including my own Australia, in a show of solidarity with the United Kingdom. It was the largest collective ejection of Russian diplomats in history.
Two months after his earth-shattering assassination, as the world stared spellbound at the weekend’s immensely popular PR spectacle of a royal wedding, Sergei Skripal was quietly discharged from the hospital he’d been staying at. The BBC reports that he is walking and approaching complete recovery.
Wait a second. Haven’t I seen this Python skit before?
Pity that the "international community" cannot enjoy more photos of the Litvinenko and Skripals. Doesn't the govt have some "embedded" photographs (like they were "embedded") during the Iraq war?
Then at least we would see something more (even if authorized by govt) from the Skripals than behind the bars in Russia...
The only people to have survived being contaminated by Novichok, one of the most lethal nerve agents known to man, without dying. Miracles do happen, apparently. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SKkin
You've obviously never had to clean out the stables, a weekend job for many of the Crawley and Horsham Hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Begbie
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=13688&stc=1
An ideal tool to keep the amorous hunters, both the stallions and the whipper-in, away from the teenage stable girls.
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=13687&stc=1
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Originally Posted by Pragmatic
That's not true.
Let's not forget the heroic MI6 handler.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Nor the Russian chemist, although it killed him years later.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Man that door handle will get you every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
ah knobrot, luckily we have several resident experts:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Begbie
The world let this arsehole get away with invading Ukraine, so the least the fucker can do is let these two live out their lives.
After all, his little dog and pony show served its purpose.
Nobody invaded Ukraine, some military was already legally there, by a signed and recognised by the world treaty, not a soon to be gone in the ether, tweet. Who assisted the freedom fighters in protecting their own and their wife's and children's Human Rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
The military force assisted the freedom fighters by responding, immediately, to a call of assistance for protection against an illegal regime's terrorists attacks on unarmed civilians.
Nobody bombed the place back to the stone age.
Nobody destroyed the water supply system.
Nobody introduced any plagues.
Nobody demanded a change of religious beliefs.
Nobody arrested and tortured innocent children
Nobody slit a throat, either adult or child.
Not like some lesser foreign countries recent and historically documented, actions. There 'arry more facts, for you to rant about.
We have, currently, only read two scripted notes and one staged event of one Russian citizen. The other allegedly, is alive but nobody has seen, heard or produced any facts proving he is alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
I'm sure some ameristanis are very appreciative of the UK's sanitation dept's (SANTA) efforts to rid the world of worthless spies. One by attempted murder another by government decreed gagging.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Haven't been following this thread, but Putin says it can't have been Russia that poisoned them because if it had been they would be dead. Seems to make sense, but that leaves the Brit authorities all in with 7-high, and more embarrassed than before.
You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "fact".Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
because you do harry ? :rofl:
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
1. Not in the UK they haven't. The last time they used a Polonium cuppa, remember?Quote:
The Russian mafia(s) have carried out several assassinations involving nerve agents. Why would Putin direct such an amateurish effort at such a low value target?
2. Perhaps you forgot Putin's not-so-veiled threat to kill people caught spying against Russia around the time Skripal was swapped.
Hey Sherlock, why are you on TD, you should work for Scotland Yard since you know everything without a shred of evidence :rofl:
It's a sickness, is it curable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonfly
Another unproven, in a court of law before a jury, fairytale.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
"To kill" or "to forgive", a Russian source if you are able to find your reference?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
That's the only place it hasn't been proven because Putin is obstructing justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
"Traitors will kick the bucket" he said.Quote:
"To kill" or "to forgive", a Russian source if you are able to find your reference?
Where I come from that doesn't mean you'll be forgiven.
And where I come from it's all down to interpretation. Believe what you want Harry.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/q...ssinated/40911
Everybody "kicks the bucket" if that is what he said. It's not a term I suspect he would use. Was The Sun your source?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
How does that fact incriminate THE LORD, personally? Please don't say he's an advisor to the Gods.
Indeed it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/q...ssinated/40911Quote:
The quote (in English) however doesn't directly imply anything beyond holding a grudge, and is not exactly an overt threat. It could be interpreted to be an implied threat, but that point is quite subjective.
I went to your linked site after I had last posted. It seems 'arry source was The Sun. Better known for it's page 3 spreads.
It's remarkable how every single comment on that site is basically sucking up to Putin.
No doubt OhOh has already bookmarked it.
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What in earth for?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
One poster ask a descent question and three posters reply factually, very fully. Must be because the answers didn't fit your own.
Hardly MSM propaganda site in any way. Or are you a MK fan, if it doesn't have 2.5m idiots arguing with each other, similar to Zero hedge, it's not a reliable source?
So yes then.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
It appears that BBC Newsnight had a programme out Yulia and her father:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b52781/newsnight-29052018
Some, alleged, snippets from RT:
"The evening that Yulia and Sergei were admitted, at that point we were led to believe that they have taken an overdose, so there was no mention of nerve agent poisoning," Sarah Clark, ward sister in charge of the shift on March 4, told BBC2's Newsnight in an interview broadcast on Tuesday. "They were needing their support with their breathing and support with their cardiovascular system."
"At first, when they first came in, there was no indication of the fact that it was a nerve agent. And therefore, we take our normal protection when any patient comes in but would have not at that point taken any extra precaution in terms of protecting ourselves," Clark said.'
Things at the hospital began to slowly change when police told the medical staff on Monday morning that they were dealing with victims of a potential "targeted attack." Dr. Duncan Murray, the hospital's senior intensive care consultant, recalled how he discovered the identity of the Skripals at "six o'clock on a Monday morning," while Cara Charles Barks, chief executive at the hospital, said that only by 10am was the case declared an "external incident."
"While the Skripals were first admitted to the hospital on Sunday evening, it was not until Tuesday that doctors realized they were seeing "symptoms typical of organophosphate" or nerve agent poisoning, the BBC investigation claims. This suspicion arose after Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, one of the officers who had attended the scene but whose fate was not part of the BBC report, was admitted with "similar" symptoms."
One wonders who told the medical staff or determined the "overdose" scenario, started them off on that treatment course and how many UK hospital doctors know what the symptoms of CW are and how to treat a suspected CW patient? Or did the police, with no medical knowledge of the case get a tip off from high/informed PD specialist , or just guess?
I suppose being in Salisbury, just down the road from PD, they had some contact generally.Convenient eh?
^The implication being that a CW wasn’t suspected until the identity of the victims was revealed. The hypothesis of the crime was then tailored to fit the victims.
looks like Ukraine can stage fake murders, but they got caught by the FSB and they had to come out :)
Harry is on the case :rofl:
Translation: the crime wasn't attributed until they identified the toxin as a Russian special.Quote:
Originally Posted by Begbie
Pity all the doctors and nurses, their life is surely not so easy... (Also new identity?)
FirstlyQuote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Secondly, 40 minutes prior to the Skripals being found unconscious in the park they hadQuote:
The formulas for 'Novichoks' are known, various military laboratories have made some and any decent organic chemistry laboratory can create them too. The U.S., which had produced some of the 'Novichok' agents for itself, had long told its diplomats to avoid any discussions about them.
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a seafood risotto pesce with king prawns, mussels and squid rings at Zizzi, as reported here in the Daily Mail on March 6.This is a dish with a well known reputation as a source of shellfish poisoning.
I still believe they suffered the effects of PSPhttp://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04...poisoning.htmlQuote:
Another official PSP Fact Sheet (pdf) provides:What is the treatment? Unfortunately, there is no antidote for PSP toxins; however, supportive medical care can be life saving. For example, persons whose breathing muscles become paralyzed can be put on a mechanical respirator and given oxygen to help them breath, and people who develop a cardiac arrhythmia (abnormal heart rhythm) can be given medications to stabilize their heart rhythm.The similarity with symptoms and effect derived from a nerve agent are striking, but no surprise: