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Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Just being reported Russians are behind all the sex grooming gangs in UK.:)
Was that reported in the Daily Mail or Viz? It's important to know the source as this is 'World News' and links are required. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico
^it appears that ITN have a "scoop".:)
Skripal Novichok poisoning suspects ‘identified’
Police are believed [:)] to have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack on Russian former spy Sergei Skripal.
Officers think [:)] several Russians [All sporting large red star lapel badges] were involved in the attempted murder of the former double agent and daughter Yulia in Salisbury and are looking for more than one suspect.
A source [https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif]with knowledge of the investigation told the Press Association: “Investigators believe they have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack through CCTV [ https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif ] and have cross-checked this with records of people who entered the country around that time. [ At least they weren't sleepers ]
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=16878&stc=1
They (the investigators) are sure [ :) ] they (the suspects) are Russian.”
The news comes [ https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif ] as an inquest is due to open on Thursday for Dawn Sturgess, 44, who died earlier this month, eight days after apparently coming into contact with Novichok from the same batch used [ https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif ] in the attempted murder of the Skripals in March.
Her partner Charlie Rowley, 45, was left fighting for his life after also being contaminated by the chemical weapon.
It is understood Ms Sturgess was exposed to at least 10 times the amount of nerve agent the Skripals came into contact with.
Investigators are working to the theory that the substance was in a discarded perfume bottle found by the couple in a park or somewhere in Salisbury city centre and Ms Sturgess sprayed Novichok straight on to her skin, the source said.
The Metropolitan Police, who are leading the investigation, declined to comment.
:smileylaughing:
The inquest will be opened by the Wiltshire and Swindon coroner in Salisbury and the hearing is expected to be adjourned to allow police inquiries to continue.
On Wednesday, a fingertip search of Queen Elizabeth Gardens in Salisbury was carried out.
The park and other locations in Salisbury and nearby Amesbury were cordoned off last month after the exposure of the couple to the nerve agent.
Searches of properties could last months after 400 items were recovered, officers warned, while waste and litter will be removed as part of the sweep of public areas.
Last week counter-terrorism detectives revealed they had found a small bottle containing Novichok at Mr Rowley’s home in Muggleton Road, Amesbury.
They are trying to establish where the container came from, and how it came to be in his house.
A team of international experts from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) was called in to independently verify this.
They have finished collecting samples which will now be analysed at two OPCW labs before the results are reported back to the UK.
Public Health England said the risk to the public remains low but it continued to “strongly advise” not to pick up any unknown “strange items” such as syringes, needles, cosmetics or similar objects made of materials such as metal, plastic or glass.
Last updated Thu 19 Jul 2018
'Russian suspects identified' from CCTV in Skripal poison attack - ITV News
Concerned, or not, by loose accusations of Russian people from the "mostly harmless" planet Earth?
Let us await the comprehensive :), OPCW and OPCW chain of control statement, prior to accepting this "opinion" as factual .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0lOtdvqyg
^ Translated means thay have CCTV footage of people who were in Salisbury and later flew out of Britain, but as yet they have no names of those people.
Most were empty 6% cider bottles and half an ounce of Old Holborn and a packet of papers.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Presuming the CCTV can be identified as from Salisbury, airports CCTV were turned on at the time and some of the 10,000,000 people leaving UK in a month or so, whose images were stored, have red star lapel badges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
"Tourists made 16.41 million trips to the UK between January and June, an 8% rise on the same period in 2013."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28787769
So 16 million visits, x 2 for entry and exit "images" / 6 = 5+ million images with CCTV recognition rates at 4 -8 %
"For an extreme example of what can go wrong, take data recently released by an EU Freedom of Information request and then posted by the South Wales police. It shows that at the Champions League final game in Cardiff last year, South Wales police logged 173 true face matches and wrongly identified a whopping 2,297 people as suspicious—a 92 percent false positive rate."
https://www.wired.com/story/facial-r...-works-or-not/
Until they dredge the river, their search efforts are meaningless. Downriver at least 10 km or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
A new project for the Thai divers yes?
What else will they, do molest children, as alleged by an ameristani billionaire?
Are you ever going to realise that you simply cannot communicate in English at this level?Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
What on earth are you babbling on about now?
If I recall correctly, on the day the Skripal's took ill wasn't there a CCTV picture of a man and woman published as being the people connected to the attacked on the Skripal's ? Did they identify them?
Slight editing and additions, just for you. I suspect not enough, although your post could use some commas.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
Until they search the river, the search is meaningless. Both sites, of Salisbury 1 - The Discovery and Salisbury 2 - The Spreading Plague, are connected by the river. A km or so a month of the Perfume Bottle drifting down.......
Any increase in local waterfowl deaths, or has that been covered up by Lizz's annual Swan Upping?
Send a call out to the Thai divers. The Seals are just basking, the white ex-pats back to their molestation of Thai juveniles, as alleged by, a soon to be dollar-less, ameristani immigrant and ex company director.
As I pointed out in post #112 the 'Blue Suede Shoes' are experts at assassinations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
https://new.euro-med.dk/20180318-the...among-them.phpQuote:
The 3 Main Suspects behind the Skripal Attempt – and Russia Is not among Them
According to former British diplomat and historian Craig Murray, for instance, it is more reasonable to cast the net of suspicion onto Israel for many of the same reasons cited by the British government:
“Israel has the nerve agents. Israel has Mossad which is extremely skilled at foreign assassinations. Theresa May claimed Russian propensity to assassinate abroad as a specific reason to believe Russia did it. Well Mossad has an even greater propensity to assassinate abroad. And while I am struggling to see a Russian motive for damaging its own international reputation so grieviously, Israel has a clear motivation for damaging the Russian reputation so grieviously. Russian action in Syria has undermined the Israeli position in Syria and Lebanon in a fundamental way, and Israel has every motive for damaging Russia’s international position by an attack aiming to leave the blame on Russia.”
UK Security Minister Dismisses Report on Skripal Poisoners as 'Wild Speculation'
https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=16917&stc=1
"Media reports appeared earlier in the day, saying that UK investigators claimed that they had identified the perpetrators behind the A234 nerve agent attack on the Skripals.
Commenting on the reports that police have identified Russians behind the Skripal poisoning, UK Security Minister Ben Wallace dubbed them as "ill-informed, wild speculation.
"I think this story belongs in the 'ill-informed and wild speculation folder," Ben Wallace said on Twitter.
According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, if the UK classifies the Salisbury and Amesbury cases, Moscow will interpret it as an attempt to hide the masterminds and perpetrators of these crimes.
https://sputniknews.com/europe/20180...accuse-russia/
Poor old Vlad is dying to know what the intelligence services know.
THE LORD, has his finger in many pies. Each pie, savoury or sweet can be tasted, put back to mature or gobbled up in an instant.
Now, also the other media have taken over from SputnikNews. (or vice versa?)
Anyway, still "highly likely"...
Britain dismisses news report on Skripal poisoners as 'wild speculation'
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s security minister on Thursday dismissed a report that police have identified several Russians who were behind the poisoning of former Russian double-agent Sergei Skripal as “wild speculation”.
“I think this story belongs in the ‘ill informed and wild speculation folder’” Ben Wallace said on Twitter, in response to the Press Association report.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1K91V0
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Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Isn't that anti-semantic ...or something like that. :)
I can think of some other news stories where the word Russians could be replaced with "blue suede shoes"
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Originally Posted by OhOh
Isn't that a bit unhygenic ? He might need to upgrade his waitering skills...
Ooooh you haven't been jewdy-ised....Quote:
Originally Posted by SKkin
How long is 98% of the world going to be held hostage by the brazen bullshit of the "chosen" 2%(or a portion thereof)?
So 2 people are walking down a street and they come across a spray bottle. First reaction by one is to spray her wrists to see if its a perfume. The second person then breaks the bottle in his hands but doesn't know how. Is someone tekkin the piss?
Sky news.Quote:
Mr Rowley said his brother's recollection of what happened was "very vague", but added: "He definitely said to me that they found this bottle of something and Dawn sprayed it on her wrists and that he picked it up and broke it somehow - and that's how he got it on his hands."
So he then took the broken bottle home for the investigators to find, they did say they found it in the house didnt they and was there ever anything said about it being broken?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Perhaps he collects broken bottles.
:sorry1:
One woman can vouch for Novichok.
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2018/07/531.jpg
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2018/07/532.jpg
They are not so ordinary people. First, it was reported they are homeless, or did I got it wrong? Or just she was? Living in a hostel for homeless, mother of 11ye daughter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
Drug addicts? Picking things on a street. However, he's got a house. And not so of a poor value. Strange, isn't it?
Surely, now he will change his life... (Perhaps they will tear down the house)
^Ms. May, tear down the house...
‘O what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!’
Sir Walter Scott.Marmion; A Tale of Flodden Field (published in 1808)
US to impose new sanctions on Russia over Skripal poisoning
"The US is imposing new sanctions on Russia over the poisoning of double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter in the UK. The measures are scheduled to go into effect on or around August 22, according to the State Department.
"The United States...determined under the Chemical and Biological Weapons Control and Warfare Elimination Act of 1991 (CBW Act) that the government of the Russian Federation has used chemical or biological weapons in violation of international law, or has used lethal chemical or biological weapons against its own nationals," State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said in a statement on Wednesday.
The accusation comes despite there being zero evidence suggesting Moscow was behind the attack.
A State Department official told reporters in a conference call on Wednesday that Washington informed Russia "this afternoon" about the sanctions. The US still wants to maintain relations with Moscow, despite the new sanctions. "We are tough on Russia, at the same time we are quite committed to working to maintain relations because there are important things at stake here," the official said, as quoted by Sputnik.
London was predictably delighted and rushed to welcome Washington’s announcement of new punitive actions against Moscow. “The UK welcomes this further action by our US allies,” a spokesman for the UK Foreign Office said in a statement. “The strong international response to the use of a chemical weapon on the streets of Salisbury sends an unequivocal message to Russia that its provocative, reckless behavior will not go unchallenged.”
The first tranche of US sanctions would reportedly ban licenses for the export of sensitive national security goods to Russia. In the past, such exports are said to have included items like electronic devices and components, as well as test and calibration equipment for avionics. These kinds of exports have previously been allowed on a case-by-case basis.
The reporters were told that the second round of sanctions will reportedly kick in three months later, unless Russia provides "reliable assurances" that it won't use chemical weapons in the future and agrees to "on-site inspections" by the UN.
It would reportedly include more drastic measures, such as downgrading diplomatic relations, banning the Russian airline Aeroflot from flying to the US and cutting off nearly all exports and imports.
Western countries have been quick to place blame on Moscow over the poisoning, disregarding the absence of proof that would implicate the Kremlin in the crime. Russia has denied having any part in the attack and has offered its full cooperation in the investigation."
https://www.rt.com/usa/435468-us-new...tions-skripal/
Who says there is no proof?Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Ah yes, the Russians.
:rolleyes:
of course Harry, because we all know you saw "the forensic evidence" yourself :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
what a poseur and a fraud you make, your line of thinking must work very well with your bling bling arab masters :)
It's likely highly... (that's not enough?)Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
TD CSI special ops team. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Well they would know eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
:)
As much as anyone outside of the bought and paid for politicians who continue to claim but cannot provide any evidence of who was responsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Without showing their fingerprints all over it.
They've signed the Official Secrets Act. So they can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Read this article on the Skripals thought it was quite interesting. Apolgies if someone else has posted it and I missed it.
https://www.gq.com/story/russia-spy-poisoning
Excellent article. Assumptions that this was a hit directly ordered by Vlad are extraordinarily naïve- he wasn't a high value, or high profile target. Looks instead like Skripal's extra-curricular consulting activities upset the wrong network.
Mr. Skripal's "assistance" to a MI6 officers report delivered to a certain losing ameristani political clique certainly didn't help his life choices.
It was mentioned in reports soon after the incident that the daughter was really the intended target. I can't figure out why that is the case. Time for a bit more Google-ing.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Easy reading when bored laying on the beach or waiting on a cońnecting flight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Cow
Nothing new but rather biased to the "highly likely" without ridiculing the following measures and sanctions against Russia beating anything similar at the highest points of Cold War. An explanation for us ordinary people how the GRU handle former spies - in contrast to other spy agencies' kind handling.
At all such highly publicized - and never really solved deaths that always fulfill certain purpose - "cui bono" - (e.g. Kennedys, MLK, Malcom X, Diana, WTC, you name it) there are always few things that are generously omitted and not further followed, however, perhaps holding the real secret. In this case e.g. the pets at home, another dead Russian spy Glushkov clearly assassinated ("the cause of death given as compression to the neck") - why no big noise about him?
Why no contact allowed to the Russians (or anybody else, not even to the relatives? The phone call with the cousin says something different than the written declaration of Julia in the beautiful garden...
Another case how much more stupid stories the "international community" can swallow...