Thread: The world's least safe airlines for 2016 revealed

Originally Posted by taxexile

how come Qantas never crash their planes yet Indonesian airlines crash theirs regularly?

they use the same planes.

Guruda the National carrier has not had an incident for many years, the small regional carriers not so .

Airasia Indonesian no problems.

As far as Qantas goes, their turn will come no doubt about that.

Plane accidents are certain when a carrier flies millions of miles every year.

We all take our chances getting into one but compared to living in Thailand Flying in their planes is most probably the safest way to go.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Tax, from a statistical point of view, Qantas is a very dangerous airline.

I never fly Qantas, I have 140 K frequent flyer points with them that will take me anywhere in the World. Will one day I suppose just use those points.

The planes are manned by mincing pooves and old slappers.

Much prefer the little horn cracking bints on Asian planes myself.

Don't the air miles expire after 3 yrs.?

Don't do any domestic flights in the Kingdom then.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Tax, from a statistical point of view, Qantas is a very dangerous airline.

Their time is nigh...........

Best go for the median airline and hope the pilot is a European or American.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Don't the air miles expire after 3 yrs.?

They Expire if no activity is used on the Credit card.

I buy everything on my Credit card and just keep racking them up, I'll use them one day.

Cost me 80 buks a year to have the frequent flyer credit card but I save that ten times over buy sourcing piss cheap flights on the Net.

Also have a Platinum Credit card which gives me six months travel Insurance.

Cards are good Jacky if worked properly.

Thanks for the info Terry,never knew about Credit cards before.

Interesting German Wings with kamikaze pilot not on the list either

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Originally Posted by palexxxx

At the other end of the scale (the safest airlines).


AirlineRatings.com, the world’s only safety and product rating website, which was launched in June 2013, has announced its top twenty safest airlines and top ten safest low cost airlines for 2016 from the 407 it monitors.

Top of the list for the third year is Australia’s Qantas, which has a fatality free record in the jet era – an extraordinary record. Making up the remainder of the top twenty in alphabetical order are: Air New Zealand, Alaska Airlines, All Nippon Airlines, American Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, Emirates, Etihad Airways, EVA Air, Finnair, Hawaiian Airlines, Japan Airlines, KLM, Lufthansa, Scandinavian Airline System, Singapore Airlines, Swiss, United Airlines, Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Australia. - See more at: Major Airline News - AirlineRatings.com


Major Airline News - AirlineRatings.com

Wow, surprised not to see Qantas there.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Wow, surprised not to see Qantas there.

I think you missed it: 'Top of the list for the third year is Australia’s Qantas...'

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Cujo

Wow, surprised not to see Qantas there.

I think you missed it: 'Top of the list for the third year is Australia’s Qantas...'

Ah yes, oops.

Originally Posted by terry57

So how did lion Air make that list I wonder ?

Is it because of maintenance issues or just because some tosser complained about the size of the seat and the lack of a free cup of tea. ?

I've never read any stories regards Lion Air crashing, they are exactly the same as any other budget airline in Thailand.

I have never flown them by the way, not yet anyway.

They are banned from.Europe because of


On 14 January 2002, Lion Air Flight 386, a Boeing 737-200 crashed on take-off and was written off at Sultan Syarif Kasim II International Airport. Everyone on board survived.

On 30 November 2004, Lion Air Flight 538, a McDonnell Douglas MD-82, crashed in Surakarta with registration PL-LMN (c/n49189); 25 people died.[22]

On 4 March 2006, Lion Air Flight 8987, a McDonnell Douglas MD-82, crashed after landing at Juanda International Airport.[23] Reverse thrust was used during landing, although the left thrust reverser was stated to be out of service.[23] This caused the aircraft to veer to the right and skid off the runway, coming to rest about 7,000 feet (2,100 m) from the approach end of the runway.[23] There were no fatalities, but the aircraft was badly damaged.[23]

On 24 December 2006, Lion Air Flight 792, a Boeing 737-400, landed with an incorrect flap configuration and was not aligned with the runway.[24] The plane landed hard and skidded along the runway causing the right main landing gear to detach, the left gear to protrude through the wing and some of the aircraft fuselage to be wrinkled.[24] There were no fatalities, but the aircraft was written off.[24]

On 23 February 2009, Lion Air Flight 972, a McDonnell Douglas MD-82 landed without the nose gear at Hang Nadim International Airport, Batam.

On 9 March 2009, Lion Air Flight 793, a McDonnell Douglas MD-90-30 (registration PK-LIL) ran off the runway at Soekarno–Hatta International Airport. No-one was injured.[25]

On 2 November 2010, Lion Air Flight 712, a Boeing 737-400 (registration PK-LIQ) overran the runway on landing at Supadio Airport, Pontianak, coming to rest on its belly and sustaining damage to its nose gear. All 174 passengers and crew evacuated by the emergency slides, with few injuries.[26]

On 13 April 2013, Lion Air Flight 904, a Boeing 737-800 (registration PK-LKS; c/n 38728) from Bandung to Denpasar with 108 people on board, crashed into the water near Denpasar/Bali while attempting to land. The aircraft’s fuselage broke into two parts.[27] While Indonesian officials reported the aircraft crashed short of the runway,[27] reporters and photographers from Reuters and the Associated Press indicated that the plane overshot the runway.[28][29] All passengers and crew were evacuated from the aircraft and there were no fatalities.[27]

On 6 August 2013, Lion Air Flight 892, a Boeing 737-800 (registration PK-LKH; c/n 37297) from Makassar to Gorontalo with 117 passengers and crew on board, collided into a cow in Jalaluddin Airport. All people on board survived.

On 1 February 2014, Lion Air Flight 361, a Boeing 737-900ER (registration PK-LFH; c/n 35710), from Balikpapan Sultan Aji Muhamad Sulaiman Airport to Ngurah Rai International Airport in Denpasar/Bali via Juanda International Airport in Surabaya, with 222 passengers and crew on board, landed hard and bounced four times on the runway, causing a tail strike and substantial damage to the plane. There were no casualties, but two passengers were seriously injured and three others had minor injuries.[30]

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Not good is it. ?

Mainly all in Indo I notice.

Because its an Indonesian Carrier. Indo's version of Malaysia's AirAsia.

On 6 August 2013, Lion Air Flight 892, a Boeing 737-800 (registration PK-LKH; c/n 37297) from Makassar to Gorontalo with 117 passengers and crew on board, collided into a cow in Jalaluddin Airport. All people on board survived.

What about the cow?

The pilot didn't listen

Originally Posted by MeMock

Lion Air is Indonesian. I am assuming it is on the bad list for that part of its operations, not Thai Lion Air.

Are you presuming that the Thai subsidiary operates to higher standards?

It must do,because they a lot better than Thai air or Nok air,though saying that I would say thai aviation authority ain't happy having them around as there scheduled flights are always late taking off.

But cheap they are took wife and kids on flight to BKK and back and cost 3500 baht.

Originally Posted by Henrie

Originally Posted by MeMock

Lion Air is Indonesian. I am assuming it is on the bad list for that part of its operations, not Thai Lion Air.

Are you presuming that the Thai subsidiary operates to higher standards?

Nope.

Just saying why it is on the list when to my knowledge there has not been a Lion Air incident in Thailand.

Wife and I and the three kids from DM to Ubon was 3,800 baht.

That price would worry me. How can they operate to international standards charging 750 baht per seat?

Thai lion air seems ok ? All new planes. Most of the time anyway planes crash because of retarded monkeys pilots who do not do the right thing in case of emergency...

not sure why it would worry you I used to fly from Liverpool to Inverness a few yeas ago for 20 quid with Ryanair, lion air just shaking up the market any flight I've been on never been below 90% capacity.

Originally Posted by Henrie

That price would worry me. How can they operate to international standards charging 750 baht per seat?

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

not sure why it would worry you I used to fly from Liverpool to Inverness a few yeas ago for 20 quid with Ryanair, lion air just shaking up the market any flight I've been on never been below 90% capacity.

Originally Posted by Henrie

That price would worry me. How can they operate to international standards charging 750 baht per seat?

So Lion air are the asian Ryan air?

Excuse me while I