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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Name me a single interdiction that has stopped the recruitment and deployment of jihadists.
    Interdiction.!? jeez Harry is that what you think Iraq was.!??

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    From Bloomburgs:

    France’s worst terror attack since World War II
    How easily the media inflate the significance of recent events while undermining the enormity of one of humanity's greatest tragedies. Food for the sheeple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    From Bloomburgs:

    France’s worst terror attack since World War II
    How easily the media inflate the significance of recent events while undermining the enormity of one of humanity's greatest tragedies. Food for the sheeple.
    ....and we conveniently forget the terror and barbarity that the French [and other powers] have laid upon others in the world since WW2 and long before.

    Westerners really don't get.
    Inventing historic perspective and reality as it suits you for the benefit of the broad illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Name me a single interdiction that has stopped the recruitment and deployment of jihadists.
    Interdiction.!? jeez Harry is that what you think Iraq was.!??
    Pick a word or phrase.

    Military Action
    War
    etc. etc.

    No need to be pedantic.

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    ^ The mastermind has been traveling from Syria and back to Europe.

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    Honduras detains Syrians bound for U.S. with doctored Greek passports

    Honduran authorities said on Wednesday they had intercepted six Syrian nationals traveling on doctored Greek passports in the past week, including five who had been trying to reach the United States.
    Police said there were no signs of any links to last week's deadly attacks in Paris that killed 129 people. Islamic State claimed responsibility for the shooting and suicide bombing assault.
    Five of the men were detained late on Tuesday in the Honduran capital, Tegucigalpa, on arrival from Costa Rica, and had been planning to head to the border with neighboring Guatemala, police said. They said passports had been doctored to replace the photographs with those of the Syrians.
    Anibal Baca, a Honduras police spokesman, said the five were trying to reach the United States.
    A sixth man was turned away on Friday on arrival by plane from El Salvador, and was sent back. They are the first such cases of attempted illegal entry by Syrians into Honduras since the Central American country started compiling records in 2010.
    However, the case appears to form part of a spate of such incidents. Police in the former Dutch Caribbean colony of St Maarten on Saturday arrested three men they believed to be Syrians who arrived on a flight from Haiti and were traveling on false Greek passports.
    In Paraguay, police detained a Syrian man on Sunday who was traveling on a stolen Greek passport.
    Reports that at least one of the Paris attackers may have slipped into Europe among migrants registered in Greece prompted several Western countries to begin to question their willingness to take in refugees from war-torn Syria.
    Republican Senator James Risch of Idaho said he found the news "very troubling", and wondered whether the men formed part of a militant sleeper cell to be planted in the United States, or whether it was something far more innocent.
    "It is very, very suspicious and I can tell you that the intelligence community is drilling down on these five right now," Risch told CNN, adding that U.S. intelligence does not know the Syrians' motive.
    "So far they have not used the southern path to enter our very porous southern border. They haven't done that in the past. This was clearly an attempt to do this by five Syrians, and what they had in mind after they got here, that remains to be seen," said Risch, a member of the Select Committee on Intelligence.
    TRUMP'S WALL
    Seizing on concerns about an influx of migrants from Mexico and Central America across the U.S. southern border, U.S. Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump has vowed to force Mexico to pay for the United States to construct a wall between the neighbors.
    Even before the Paris attacks, Trump had vowed to send all Syrian refugees accepted by the United States back to Syria if he is elected.
    Since 2014, countries in South America, mainly Brazil and Argentina, have witnessed a notable increase in asylum-seekers in the region, particularly Syrians, the UN refugee agency says. But it is still rare for refugees from Syria and other Middle Eastern countries to seek asylum after crossing the United States' southern border.
    In Washington, Republicans are resisting President Barack Obama's plan to admit 10,000 Syrian refugees in the coming year.
    "We received information from (fellow) police services that these five Syrians left Greece and passed through Turkey, Brazil, Argentina and San Jose in Costa Rica before finally reaching Tegucigalpa," Baca said.
    "They are normal Syrians," the police spokesman added, saying there was nothing to indicate they were tied to the Paris attacks.
    Television footage showed the men dressed in casual clothing and grinning as police officers escorted them at the airport. They were then piled into the back of a police pick-up truck, flanked by officers with pistols on their hips.
    Honduran newspaper La Prensa said the five men detained on Tuesday were aged 23 to 33.
    "Greek diplomats arrived in the terminal area and confirmed the men didn't speak a word of Greek," the paper said.
    The Honduran government said it had involved Interpol in the investigation. Use of false passports is increasingly commonplace among Syrian refugees who often find themselves in other countries, having left their own documents behind in their rush to flee.


    Honduras detains Syrians bound for U.S. with doctored Greek passports | Reuters

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    ^ Not terrorist suspects, though, they say

    How the heck did they get from Syria to Lebanon to Turkey to South America to Honduras . . .

    Is smeg giving them travel tips?

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    It's nothing new. Asylum seekers and wannabe illegal immigrants do this kind of thing all the time.

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    I'm sure they do, but you must admit it is impressive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post


    Interesting. The US is a signatory to couple UN conventions re Status/Rights of Refugees. Basically defines who is a refugee and obligations of signatory nations. Up to the feds to vet refugees. Once determined a "refugee" as defined in the UN conventions they can live anywhere in the US they chose. States have no say in the matter. However, feds have no right to allocate specific states to accept a number as is being attempted in the EU.
    Indiana has become the first state to refuse Syrian refugees who were then diverted to Connecticut. The couple and their child had been waiting three years while in a settlement camp in Jordan.

    On my iPad so can't post the link from yahoo news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Indiana has become the first state to refuse Syrian refugees who were then diverted to Connecticut. The couple and their child had been waiting three years while in a settlement camp in Jordan.
    Good Christian values hard at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Indiana has become the first state to refuse Syrian refugees who were then diverted to Connecticut. The couple and their child had been waiting three years while in a settlement camp in Jordan.
    Good Christian values hard at work.

    Good Christian...?

    Kind of a term of contradictory, is it not?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post


    Interesting. The US is a signatory to couple UN conventions re Status/Rights of Refugees. Basically defines who is a refugee and obligations of signatory nations. Up to the feds to vet refugees. Once determined a "refugee" as defined in the UN conventions they can live anywhere in the US they chose. States have no say in the matter. However, feds have no right to allocate specific states to accept a number as is being attempted in the EU.
    Indiana has become the first state to refuse Syrian refugees who were then diverted to Connecticut. The couple and their child had been waiting three years while in a settlement camp in Jordan.

    On my iPad so can't post the link from yahoo news.
    I was under the impression states couldn't 'refuse' refigees.
    A couple and their child.
    Jesus Christ what assholes.

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    Abdelhamid Abaaoud killed, prosecutor's office says - CNN.com

    Paris, France (CNN)The ringleader in last week's bloody terrorist attacks in Paris was killed in a pre-dawn raid Wednesday on an apartment building north of the French capital, the Paris prosecutor's office announced Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    On my iPad so can't post the link from yahoo news.
    This will do.

    Syrian family rejected by Indiana welcomed in Connecticut - Post-Tribune

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    I was under the impression states couldn't 'refuse' refigees
    Legally they can't. Betting the justice department is working on bringing charges against Indiana and rightly so.
    Shameful political opportunism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    I was under the impression states couldn't 'refuse' refigees
    Legally they can't. Betting the justice department is working on bringing charges against Indiana and rightly so.
    Shameful political opportunism.
    The States cannot legally stop it: immigration is under Federal Government control.
    However, I heard a report that to make the immigration system work the states have to "cooperate" with the system. If they individually stop cooperating it could cause problems.
    I hope the JD stops it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers
    The ringleader in last week's bloody terrorist attacks in Paris was killed in a pre-dawn raid Wednesday on an apartment building north of the French capital, the Paris prosecutor's office announced Thursday.
    Amazing. Usually the planners are far away from the front lines.

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    I wish the media, an people in general, would stop referring to this murdering high-shool drop out as a "Mastermind". Ringleader is almost a bad.
    As Lawrence O'Donald pointed out last night, if the terrorist could write his own headline to elevate his pathetic ass, mastermind would be the word of choice.

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    Where is Sir Lawrence when you need him....






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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    I wish the media, an people in general, would stop referring to this murdering high-shool drop out as a "Mastermind". Ringleader is almost a bad.
    It's been irritating me too. This, and the wank we always get about how "complex" these operations are and how "difficult" they are to organise, is just to disguise the fact that our intelligence agencies and police are inept (or, if you prefer to be charitable, not super-human) and that murderous peasants are more-or-less free to commit their atrocities at will. The difficult part is not killing people, the difficult part is finding people who also want to kill themselves and that's no longer anywhere near as difficult as it once was. Imagine what the carnage would have been if ETA, the IRA, RAF, or the Red Brigades had suicide terrorists!

    No, there is no mastermind, no cleverness, no complexity, not even much difficulty, just an increasing supply of murderous pinheads with no fear of their own deaths.
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    The reason they refer to him as a mastermind is that it's easier to justify the upcoming genocide that way.

    Public won't swallow said genocide if in reality it was just a microscopic group of fvck ups egged on by whatever parties are set to benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper View Post
    The reason they refer to him as a mastermind is that it's easier to justify the upcoming genocide that way.

    Public won't swallow said genocide if in reality it was just a microscopic group of fvck ups egged on by whatever parties are set to benefit.
    The premise (genocide) makes no sense, or maybe it's some kind of wish fullfillment on your part. It seems that the ploy you describe would only make matters worse. Even if he's the mastermind of a microscopic group of fvck ups, designating him "mastermind" only gives him the increased stature he seeks.

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    Let's call him a felcher...But that would be insulting to some here...Anyway, apparently he's a dead mastermind, or felcher, so there's that...

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