probably not, but its not as if they didnt ask for it.Quote:
And you think that its right that they should die?
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probably not, but its not as if they didnt ask for it.Quote:
And you think that its right that they should die?
Drug couriers know the risks, weigh it up against the cash benefits and normally let the dollars rule their decision. FUCK THEM!Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
Why do you imagine I havent read it from the beginning?Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
Why do you think I havent got a reasonable grasp of all thats been said.
Its not difficult.
Your views, of which you are very defensive, are invalid.
The logic doesnt work.
Youre a fool Terry and an embarrassment to civilized mankind.
good night.
But sometimes written laws with all the warnings do.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
Logic............fairness............what the fuck........you, me and Terry can sprout off about what we feel is right and wrong but at the end of the day???????????
They die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
Sad but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
My cousin who played for Australia against Argentina in the Rugby just got releaed from jail after spending 10 years inside for dealing in drugs from South America. All over the news if you care to check!
Lucky he didn't get busted in Indonesia. He would be dead now!
^
Well, do you think he should have been executed?
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Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
Urm,
Ok Nooners,
So after reading the complete thread you have made three posts in the last ten minutes.
Two which were complete and utter garbage and this one which at very best is quite frankly way below your usual posting standard.
You must try harder.
Anyway, sleep well my darling. :)
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Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
Yes they die simply because they kill many people by peddling drugs.
Fairs fair huh.
Though you were going nighty night. :rolleyes:
Interesting response to threads that are discussing the imminent death of human beings.Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
Your position is clear.
Live with it.
I am an advocate for drug legalization and hate the way that governments are handling this no win situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123
Unless you can come forward with something of substance, make a stance against these murders........... let's just accept that what some fools do and let them suffer what they have brought upon themselves.
So when do they get their chests blown apart? Midnight Indo time?
Should have it on live TV around the World so others may think twice.
^ ^^
Live with what,
I didn't kill anyone by being a filthy scum sucking peddler of death.
^Yep. Little over three hours left.
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
^
You're pissed up aren't you Nooners. ?
If this is all you can add to this thread much better you run along home and have a nice sleep.
Cheers.
No......Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
That would do wonders but probably not as the people that involve in this totally illegal business don't give a fuck. Money, greed and their next hit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Luigi
I think this is fucking hilarious.
Terry has spent his whole life as a fireman making an honest living.........I presume Nooners has worked as a teacher doing the same..........Me making a few buckets making ends meet bringing up a young family...........and we are debating scum that have spent most of their life under the microscope of the police doing shit that makes them huge buckets of illegal money breaking the laws of most global communities and loving it.
Fuck them and burn in hell!
Close to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luigi
Bali Nine executions: Australians gather in support of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran | News.com.au
I think that's the price you pay for rolling the dice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
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Originally Posted by Loy Toy
Right oh..................
Can't do the time - don't do the crime.
101.
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Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
About 300,000 human beings die every day, many/most more worthy of life than 2 shit bag death peddlers.
Rethink your priorities.
Is the world worse for their absence? Definitely not.
Is it better? possibly.
they never gave up the kingpin behind the whole operation, who was no doubt funding their comfortable "Corby" lifestyle behind bars...
Bali Nine: Indonesia confirms it will execute prisoners tonight ? live updates | World news | The GuardianQuote:
The nine prisoners will be executed separately, in turn, after midnight Jakarta time.
Each will have a separate firing squad of 12 officers. Three of the 12 guns will contain live rounds.
In March, the Guardian spoken to a police officer who has been part of a firing squad on Nusa Kambangan. He told my colleague Kate Lamb about his role:
The mental burden is heavier for the officers that are responsible for handling the prisoners rather than shooting them.
Because those officers are involved in picking them up, and tying their hands together, until they are gone.
A wing of the Indonesian police corps known as the Mobile Brigade (“Brimob”) carries out the executions on top of its regular duties. They are not full-time executioners but special police officers assigned to the job. They are paid less than $100 on top of their existing salary to carry out their grim task.
I don’t make conversation with the prisoners. I treat them like they are a member of my own family.
I say only: ‘I’m sorry, I am just doing the job.’
Of being part of the firing squad, the officer describes the experience with detachment:
We just come in, grab the weapon, shoot, and wait for the dying to finish. Once the ‘bam’ of the gun we wait 10 minutes, if the doctor pronounces him dead then we return, that’s about it.
It doesn’t take more than five minutes to be over.
The officer said he sees his role as simply doing his duty:
I am bound by my oath as a soldier. The prisoner violated the law and we are carrying out a command. We are just the executors. The question of whether it is sin or not is up to God.
Pulling the trigger is the easy part, the officer says as he contemplates the executions which are to come.
The worst part is the human touch, he says, the connection with those who are about to die. The executioner has to lace the prisoner’s limbs, hands and feet to a cross-shaped pole with thick rope. It is that final moment of brutal intimacy that haunts.
“The mental burden is heavier for the officers that are responsible for handling the prisoners rather than shooting them,” he says. “Because those officers are involved in picking them up, and tying their hands together, until they are gone.”
Indonesia foresees diplomatic strain as Bali Nine pair arrive on execution island
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The officer – a young man who wanted to remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of his role – is part of a wing of the Indonesian police corps known as the Mobile Brigade (“Brimob”).
The brigade carries out the executions on top of its regular duties. They are not full-time executioners but rather special police officers assigned to the job.
They are paid less than $100 on top of their existing salary to carry out their grim task.
The officer spoke exclusively to the Guardian, describing the bleakest moments of what he called “his job”, of being the last person to touch the prisoner just moments before they are “released from life”.
The act of execution happens in a jungle-skirted clearing on the prison island of Nusa Kambangan.
One team is assigned to escort and shackle the prisoners, a second team is the firing squad. This officer has been on both of those teams.
“We see the person close up, from when they are alive and talking, until they die,” he said. “We know it [that moment] precisely.”
Five Brimob officers are assigned to each prisoner, to escort them from the isolation cells in the middle of the night and accompany them to the clearing.
Bali Nine composite
Bali Nine drugs smugglers Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran. Photograph: supplied
The officer says prisoners can “decide if they want to cover their face” before they are tied up to make sure their heart or the position of their body does not move.
Moments before, the prisoner has the option to seek religious counsel.
Using a thick rope known as “tali tambang” in Indonesian, the officer says he avoids speaking to the prisoners when he binds their hands behind their back and onto the poles, kneeling or standing as they wish, but that he treats the prisoners gently.
“I don’t make conversation with the prisoners. I treat them like they are a member of my own family,” he explains, “I say only, ‘I’m sorry, I am just doing the job.’
He says that by the time he escorts the prisoners from their cells to the clearing “they are resigned to their fate, as though it was written like lines on their palm”.