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This is why I wear Hip Boots when posting on Teak Door Terry, never know when the flood gates are gonna open....Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
What's not right about checking with Amsterdam Terry? You just verified it...legal for registered users and for all intents and purposes drugs run rivers in Holland...now isn't that quaint?Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57
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So what do you suggest society does. ?
I'm getting thirsty. Carry on. :)
Just been announced on Aussie TV that one of the Australians to be executed - Andrew Chan, just got married today.
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Originally Posted by terry57
Ah....you're toddling off to take your daily hit of legal, frothy liquid drug.:rolleyes:
Nah, he is out to execute the manager of the 7-eleven, he heard he was selling cigs and someone had died of lung cancer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
He got engaged to some local lass, Febri. What's that all about anyway? Is she wanting some time in the limelight? I doubt he has life insurance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123
Drugs and the harm they do has absolutely nothing to do with this.
I mean they say into has a drug emergency because whats was it? 23 people a day die from drugs. Well given that size of indo's population its not that high... and well its not must compared to the 116 people a day that Indonesian drivers kill each day. And how many die a day because of the poverty cased by the systematic looting of indo's wealth over the last 30 year's? so much loot that a decent fraction of Singapore;s wealth comes from the financial service fees from taking care of it all.
But then the latter the point isn't it. I mean corruption is how he became president and why he became president. The last thing he wants to do is deal with corruption and why he lacking interest in doing anything constructive to deal with the drugs problem..... it would after all reduce the return on the investment he made in getting elected. \
Thats why these people must and will die. Not for the harm their drug smuggling has done.... but to distract people from the shit state of their country is in and that its governed by a bunch of thieves who are literally stealing everything they can to fill their Singaporean accounts.
Remember that when you say they deserve to die, and what you are really supporting when you do so.
Seems perfectly reasonable for people to pissed off that their fellow citizens are being killed to enable a thief to carry on looting his country for a little bit longer.
Consider this, unlike indoneasian's most of you, except ent, boome and pseudo are not stupid enough to believe in magic stones and magic rooms. yet you have fallen for the 'tough on crime' scam the indo pres is pulling off. so just imagine how effective this campaign is being in Indonesia itself. he's going to get to loot 10's millions off each corpse he makes.... not a bad return on investment when you think human life is cheap.
^ great post
Except I don't think you are quite right re: Jokowi and corruption. However, he is not really in charge, Megawati is...
I will give you that as you are closer to the ground.... but simply means thatJokowi is either corrupt or the biggest fool in SEA.
I would still hold that those behind him, want him to stay in place whilst they get on with the important business of looting the country with him. last thing they want is the electorate getting focused on what they are doing. And this is an excellent distraction.
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So now that you have stated the bleeding obvious, that being Indo is corrupt as fuk and so is the head of state what has Changed ?
Nothing has changed, drug traffickers were topped under the old regime and now under this regime.
So the Drug smugglers take their chance in Indo under either Government.
So be it.
I think the indos are painting themselves into a corner here.
Just on this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by hazz
Whether you like it or not every country is entitled to draft their own Laws and enforce their laws.
Whether they be politically motivated, privately motivated or motivated due to corruption the law is the law and we all live by it.
So that said, if a Malaysia says death for Da Da which means death for drug smuggling they are entitled to enact that law. I'm in Malaysia by the way and am using their law as an example.
Australians laws are weak as piss on drug smugglers, Asia's laws are not.
Dumb arses that smuggle drugs in Asia make their own call.
Tough shit that huh.
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Originally Posted by Loy Toy
I would agree with you L/T if the Indo's have been wishy washy with their drug laws.
They have not, they have said from the get go drug smugglers moving large quantities of class 1 drugs will be topped.
Not just indoneasia,Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
now talking of terry....
yes terry countries can pass whatever laws they want.... and the rest of us can think what we want of them for doing so. but one little thing you do seem to be forgetting is that they also have the right to have the criminal justice system they want too.
And in indoneasia, as in malaysia and thailand, that criminal justice system has had very little to do with law, innocence or guilt. it has been a tool of populist politics and extortion.... And that is what you are forgetting. that these two australians are guilty is just coincidental.... once the accusation has been made, your fate is sealed. if your guilt is politically expedient or you cannot pay the bribe.... your guilt is assured.... just like those school cleaners and teachers. Hell, of those they are going to kill how many are clearly guilty of their crime
As a tourist setting foot in the country you take this risk, every second of your holliday. Most of the time it does not happen, but if you are unlucky and that custom officer or shop assistant needs the cash, calls you out as a smuggler or thief.... your fate is sealed, death, life changing prison, a whopping bribe...
You have given some of the most resounding comments of why tourists should boycott indo and sea in general.
Drugs are more available that Australia, Terry. Until recently the police owned and ran stadium which is one of the biggest drug and dance clubs in the country. The laws are not applied equally or fairly.Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
I would agree with you L/T if the Indo's have been wishy washy with their drug laws.
They have not, they have said from the get go drug smugglers moving large quantities of class 1 drugs will be topped.
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I'm not arguing with you Willy, what you say is indeed accurate and correct.
There are two books published at the moment out lining the rampant use of Cocaine in Bali and telling the inside story of Korobakan Prison.
It's the story that nightmares are made of. :confused:
So we all agree on just how rotten and corrupt Indonesian law is yet we are faced regularly with stories regarding another complete moron consuming drugs or smuggling drugs into Bali.
I mean seriously, at the end of the day must we continue to support Hi level smugglers of class 1 drugs and save their scank arses from a date with the executioner ?
It's a dam shame that the two Aussies are being topped, they have reformed themselves and could continue to assist other prisoners to do the same.
But they rolled the dice and lost the call. Can't have it both ways huh.
The shit has hit the fan in Australia because a group of Actors has put together a video denouncing Tony Abbott as not doing enough. :confused:
Abbott and Bishop have been banging away at Indo trying every fuking trick in the book to save those two.
The catch cry now is " Bring our boys home ".
I mean, it's got so fuking stupid.
What about the other 7 who are dying a slow death behind bars in Indo and what about all the other Australian drug smugglers through out the world who are banged up ????
Their all in the same boat huh. Should Abbott go prancing around the world trying to save these silly fukers ?
No off course not.
Bali had 4.3 Million tourists arrive last year and I cannot recall a story of someone who was set up with drugs and extorted.
No need to as there were a heap of guilty fukers busted in the course of doing drug runs and consuming.
So there you have it EH.
Smoke your shit at home and drink Bintang when in Bali.
Anyway, these two will go down in History and forgotten about exactly the same as the Two young Australians executed in Malaysia in the Eighties.
It won't be long before once again the headlines will be that some other retarded Australian has been busted smuggling Class 1 drugs into or out of Bali.
Remember that the Bali 9 were busted whilst Corby was languishing away in Bali penitentiary.
They did not give a flying fuk about that.
Oh well, we all pay the man at the end of the day.
Those 2 were painting a corner...not painting themselves into one....or did I read that wrong...
The reason I posted that Terry is the Indo's should have carried out the sentence many moons ago and not let the world media get a hold of it to the extent they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by terry57Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
I would agree with you L/T if the Indo's have been wishy washy with their drug laws.
They have not, they have said from the get go drug smugglers moving large quantities of class 1 drugs will be topped.
Dead criminals are yesterday's news. End of story!
What about that fat granny that got busted a while back. What's happening with her?
^Sentenced to death. Appealed. Lost.
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Originally Posted by Loy Toy
I can remember when the two young guys from my town were busted with all that Smack in Penang back in the 80's.
Jesus Christ , when they were up for Execution the media jumped onto it and it was like world war 3 with Malaysia. :confused:
Of course Malaysia was unaffected, they were only enforcing their countries Law.
Once they hung them the story died a quick death, job done nothing more to add.
Same will happen with these two.
The dudes paintings may become valuable though, quite good they are.
This story is now broad caste world wide, any person with a TV or Internet connection knows about it.
So one would think Indonesia is sending a very strong message to the world regards smuggling drugs into their country.
That said if a smuggler in the future is busted and gets topped it's fair crack huh.
I mean, the word is out there and has been forever.
Few more up for the chop yet including the Pomgolian granny.
Shame, really, and made all the worse by the certain knowledge nothing whatsoever will be gained by it except the misguided opportunity for a tinpot, corrupted, little coon politician to show the world what big bollocks he thinks he has.
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You are not quite on the money there Thegent.
Many people will be rejoicing the Death of these Drug smugglers. Happy day for them.
Equal passion on both sides of the debate so this action at the end of the day is a matter of personal opinion.
I'm not taking a side here but merely expressing my opinion on a countries right to enforce there rules.