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    At least Danbo has a grasp of what actually happened at the time. She was a Godsend at the time, but she was the cause of her own demise as well. Rather her than the captain of mediocrity that those in the UK have to put up with at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    She was a Godsend at the time
    Have you gone religious recently?
    Don't come in your pants when thinking about Thatcher!

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    I'm with MtD on this one she took this country by the scruff of the neck in the 80's and marched it towards the 20th century.

    The Labour unionist commie low life were despatched.

    I salute you Barrowness Thatcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    I'm curious as to why you think socialism wouldn't reward effort withthe ability to buy consumer goods, are you getting it confused with
    communism?
    Let's face it, whatever consumer goods you could buy, they would be a pile of crap.

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    Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a classless, stateless social organization, based upon common ownership of the means of production.

    Nothing wrong with that at all and in a few hundred years will probably be the only hope for humanitys survival, given a dwindling availability of natural resources.

    Just an idea ahead of it's time really, like nuclear fusion, self cleaning Y-fronts and all night happy hours.
    You, sir, are a God among men....
    Short Men, who aren't terribly bright....
    More like dwarves with learning disabilities....
    You are a God among Dwarves With Learning Disabilities.

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    I think it's good that she was honored while she could still appreciate it to some degree. Strokes and the other mental deficiencies can diminsh past leaders and it's undignified to have them paraded around like lap dogs.

    She may not have pleased everyone, but she did have backbone.
    I found Rome a city of bricks and left it a city of marble. Augustus Caesar

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    Quote Originally Posted by themook View Post
    ....mental deficiencies can diminsh past leaders ....
    They don't do much for current leaders either.

    Maggie did have a very decisive, 'I'm always right', attitude which must have been refreshing to colleagues and civil servants....for about 5 minutes or so.

    I could never be a civil servant....I could be an uncivil servant though, "Here's your coffee you bastard!"....I love that joke.
    Back off Margaret, you're on a sugar rush!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danbo View Post
    Remember that Maggie didn't entice the working class away from a workers' utopia where everyone lived contented co-operative happy sharing lives - The country was in a sh1t state. If the Labour party had ditched the 'red flag' nonsense in the 70s instead of the 80s then she would have remained a back bench Tory novelty.

    I didn't like Maggie, but if I had to choose between her ilk and Scargill's running the country....well, I'd probably emigrate.

    ^I have to say, I was always suprised that Maggie's power-base came from the working class...
    I have a very solid working class pedigree, but there is no way that makes me a natural 'socialist'. I want the opportunity to better myself and I want to be rewarded for my efforts - with consumer goods, not medals. It is possible to want a nice television and also want a decent national health service - The important thing to realise that you can only watch one television at a time, and that however much you would like it to be so, your local hospital can not treat every sick person in the world.

    It is all a question of balance and moderation. When I finally get into power I will make bloody damn sure that everyone realises and agrees with this.
    Excellent post, Danbo.

    My dad worked in Portsmouth dockyard after leaving the navy, and never owned a motor vehicle. He just rode his bike the length of Portsmouth every day to work. I always thought I was a socialist - my uncle's house on his farm near Waterlooville was called "Keir Hardy", so I reckon I came from good Labour stock. But fortunately I got a good education and the first time I was eligible to vote (I think it was when the Daily Mirror had a front page cartoon of "The Lab men vs. The Con men", or maybe it was the one after) I voted Tory, because I knew Labour and the unions were no good for Britain.

    Maggie was great for Britain and only the die-hard lefties still hate her. In the end she was treated badly by her own party and worse by "New" Labour who didn't offer her the jobs or honours a new party leader usually offers the departing one. Neil Kinnock got his EU gravy-train job when he lost, again, to the Tories, but the vindictive and spiteful New Labour bastards broke with convention and did nothing for Maggie.

    This has now been corrected with her statue in the Palace of Westminster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDN
    ...but the vindictive and spiteful New Labour bastards broke with convention and did nothing for Maggie.
    I am glad to know this.
    She had her golden opportunities before, with Denis and her imbecile son trailing behind her and creaming off lucrative international business deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a classless, stateless social organization, based upon common ownership of the means of production.
    Nothing wrong with that at all and in a few hundred years will probably be the only hope for humanitys survival, given a dwindling availability of natural resources.
    Just an idea ahead of it's time really, like nuclear fusion, self cleaning Y-fronts and all night happy hours.
    One small thing that you forgot. It doesn't work because it goes against human nature (and the natural order of things) and people are not all the same.

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    Communism doesn't claim people are all the same.

    And what "natural order of things"? I don't see a great deal of 'natural' about the structure of societies we live in.

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    Anyway, I for one am looking forward to visiting her grave next time I'm in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Anyway, I for one am looking forward to visiting her grave next time I'm in the UK.
    Please can you take someone with you who can take a snap of you dancing on it? Because that I'd love to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Anyway, I for one am looking forward to visiting her grave next time I'm in the UK.
    Please can you take someone with you who can take a snap of you dancing on it? Because that I'd love to see

    I imagine it's going to be quite a popular activity. They'll probably be a waiting list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    She had her golden opportunities before, with Denis and her imbecile son trailing behind her....
    Alan Coren (A celebrated wit) was on the radio discussing political power passing down through families and said:

    'The British People would follow Mark Thatcher anywhere....if only out of curiosity"

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