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    Alcohol import tariffs ended december 31st 2009

    I thought Asean import tariffs on alcohol ended december 31st 2009.

    No change in Tesco prices this morning anybody else seen cheaper booze

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    I guess they're still selling stock that was imported last year.

    Of course, the likes of Guinness are going to start selling it for 100B a pint, aren't they?

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    Last years stock. Don't expect cheap foreign beer in Thailand any time soon though, Thailand are planning to raise the excise ceiling on beer, it is expected to rise from Bt100 to Bt460 per litre based on alcohol content to help prevent cheaper foreign-made alcoholic drinks being dumped in the Thai market and Boon Rawd Brewery keep an iron grip on the monopoly in the Kingdom.

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    I noticed yesterday big bottles of Asahi beer are about the same price as big Singha's at Carefour, 55baht

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Last years stock. Don't expect cheap foreign beer in Thailand any time soon though, Thailand are planning to raise the excise ceiling on beer, it is expected to rise from Bt100 to Bt460 per litre based on alcohol content to help prevent cheaper foreign-made alcoholic drinks being dumped in the Thai market and Boon Rawd Brewery keep an iron grip on the monopoly in the Kingdom.
    Not sure about that, as the actual process for determining customs and excise duties (they're separate in Land of Stupidity) doesn't work as it would in a proper country, and the rate set by the officer in charge on the day is the rate that you will always be charged at for that particular product.

    They first value the product (beer has (had) a maximum value of 45 Baht a litre) and then apply the different taxes to that value. It doesn't matter what the actual value of the product is, as they set it on whether they are having a good day or not or by how much your agent bribes them. For beer, the various taxes (customs, excise and VAT) work out at 312% as they are done cumulatively.

    Basically, a bunch of fucking thieves.

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    Will drinkers toast new liquor tax?

    Excise tax ceiling to be raised; foreign beers, liquors will be subject to a zero import duty under Afta scheme .


    An executive decree will be issued shortly to raise the excise tax ceiling on alcoholic beverages in preparation for the implementation of the Asean Free Trade Area (Afta) on January 1, a source from the Finance Ministry said yesterday.


    The Cabinet is expected to consider the measure on Tuesday, just before the arrival of 2010 when all imported beer and liquor will be subject to a zero import duty under the Afta scheme.


    Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij yesterday declined to comment on the planned excise hike.


    However, official sources say the excise ceiling on beer, for instance, is expected to rise from Bt100 (S$4) to Bt460 (S$19) per litre based on alcohol content, while that of distilled white spirits and whisky will rise from Bt120 to Bt400.


    PREVENTING DUMPING

    The planned hike should help prevent cheaper foreign-made alcoholic drinks being dumped in the Thai market once liberalisation is in place.


    "Alcoholic beverages damage consumers' health, so it's necessary to use the excise tax as a measure |to manage consumption. Compe-tition in the alcohol industry should also be curbed because fiercer competition as a result of market liberalisation will lead to more consumption.


    "In addition, the government should enforce a law banning the advertisement of these products to prevent further damage to public health," said a ministry official, who asked not to be named.


    Under the Afta scheme, Thailand and other Asean countries will be opening up their domestic markets to boost trade within the 10-country grouping.


    From January 1, several types of products - including alcohol - will benefit from the zero import tax rate, allowing an influx of cheaper beer and liquor from within the region.


    At present, Thailand is the largest market for alcoholic beverages in Asean, followed by the Philippines and Vietnam.


    Sources say Chinese beverage firms with production facilities inside Asean are expected to flood the Thai market with cheap beer and liquor.


    In addition, some European firms are already using production facilities within Asean to supply low-cost products to the Thai market.


    If the excise tax ceiling does not get adjusted before Afta is enforced, Thai producers will be hit hard by the dumping of foreign products.


    Beside beer, competition in the distilled white spirits and whisky market segments is also expected to be fierce due to the reduction of import duty.


    Will drinkers toast new liquor tax?

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    So no changes to imported booze from Europe, such as good wines and Champagne. Bollox.

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    980 baht for a 5 litre jug of gluggable italian red today in Big C.

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    stop ya bitchin guys.....you could be in Malaysia!

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    Last night I noticed that a bottle of Jameson was about 90baht less, and Tesco brand Scotch was 149 Baht for a 70cl bottle (much cheaper than the local stuff like Blend, Hong Tong etc) and 99 Baht for a Small bottle (ban) a small bottle of Hong Tong 95 Baht and SangSom 105 Baht.

    One little shop keeper had a 3 boxes of the small bottles and said she will make quite a bit on this in her store.

    I wonder how long this will last

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    Beside beer, competition in the distilled white spirits and whisky market segments is also expected to be fierce due to the reduction of import duty.
    To qualify for the AFTA scheme beverages must be produced in ASEAN.

    There's no way around this law for Scotch Whisky as it has to be produced in Scotland, under local and international laws, or it cannot be labelled Scotch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle
    There's no way around this law for Scotch Whisky as it has to be produced in Scotland, under local and international laws, or it cannot be labelled Scotch.
    except that the quantity of Johnny Black consumed in this county per annum is more that that produced in Scotland in any given year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by klongmaster
    except that the quantity of Johnny Black consumed in this county per annum is more that that produced in Scotland in any given year...
    Link?

    Of course, JW Black, all JW's in fact, are blended from 5 key single malts (and then others added), and thus, couldn't be duplicated anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle
    There's no way around this law for Scotch Whisky as it has to be produced in Scotland, under local and international laws, or it cannot be labelled Scotch.
    There is a place in Japan, or somewhere, that was renamed Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    There is a place in Japan, or somewhere, that was renamed Scotland.
    Now you're just being silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle
    To qualify for the AFTA scheme beverages must be produced in ASEAN.
    Looking forward to the 100B a pint Guinness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by klongmaster
    except that the quantity of Johnny Black consumed in this county per annum is more that that produced in Scotland in any given year...
    Link?

    Of course, JW Black, all JW's in fact, are blended from 5 key single malts (and then others added), and thus, couldn't be duplicated anywhere else.
    of course, and all Rolexes are made in Switzerland.....

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    Any ideas on how this might allow me to import Beer Laos to sell here in Ubon?

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    You can see what will happen can't you, they will end up raising ALL Alcohol prices, and eventually we will all be forced to drink the under the counter untaxed Lao Kao!

    Chang has already traded in it's Thai script to allow it to be "internationally" recognised..."Premium Lager" is its slogan these days, Singha has dropped alcohol content from 6%+ to a standard 5%....get out your whisky stills!

    It will be High Noon in my village again (It was the illegal whisky capital of Chiang Mai a few years back...gunfights with the police etc... a few dead on both sides, but you can still get a litre for less than 20 Baht - they get old ladies to smuggle it in rucksacks and the like)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins
    but you can still get a litre for less than 20 Baht - they get old ladies to smuggle it in rucksacks and the like)
    Shit, that's good.

    My local charges 40.

    And that's to any/every one. No Falang levy here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    My local charges 40. And that's to any/every one. No Falang levy here..
    That's what you think, but they are all in on the joke, even your Mrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    That's what you think, but they are all in on the joke, even your Mrs.
    Don't say that or there will be another meltdown.

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    Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij supported the Excise Department's ongoing restructuring of liquor taxes, hoping that the new structure will protect local producers from free trade agreements.

    New alcohol excise tax pending - Nationmultimedia.com

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