Strip Paula Vennells of her CBE

**Joe 90** · 09-01-2024, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by DrWilly

for Joe's efforts in righting the injustice of this scandal.

Everyone Of the 1.2 million people who signed played a part.

People power.

@Cyrille, fvck off you boring twat!

**Joe 90** · 09-01-2024, 11:35 PM

I lost my job after I warned Post Office about Horizon – IT expert - BBC News

**Joe 90** · 10-01-2024, 12:32 AM

Post Office scandal: What can be done about convictions? - BBC News

**cyrille** · 10-01-2024, 09:28 AM

Calls me a 'boring twat' then follows it up with two posts where his dim bulb of a brain can't muster anything but two links.

Read this carefully.

Victims need justice. Removing the letters after someone's name means FUCK ALL!

That's why she's immediately 'handed her CBE back' , you utter mong.

**Troy** · 10-01-2024, 10:01 AM

She should forfeit all her bonuses during her spell at the PO including the £400,000 pay off when she left.

**Bogon** · 10-01-2024, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Victims need justice. Removing the letters after someone's name means FUCK ALL!

As Troy said above.

Removing numbers from someone's bank balance seems to piss rich folk off.

**malmomike77** · 10-01-2024, 11:08 AM

I'd be looking at her pension too

**DrWilly** · 10-01-2024, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Bogon

As Troy said above.

Removing numbers from someone's bank balance seems to piss anybody off.

FTFY. Everyone hates losing money, not just rich people.

**Joe 90** · 12-01-2024, 03:29 AM

What an arrogant cvnt!

Ex-Post Office investigator Stephen Bradshaw has denied he and colleagues behaved like "mafia gangsters" towards wrongly accused sub-postmasters.

Mr Bradshaw was involved in the criminal investigation of nine sub-postmasters and was giving evidence to the Post Office inquiry.

He denied intimidating or misleading the sub-postmasters he investigated.

Hundreds were wrongly prosecuted between 1999 and 2015 after being falsely accused of stealing money.

There were more than 900 convictions linked to the scandal, with only 93 so far being overturned, after a faulty computer system called Horizon made it look like money was missing from accounts.

The government has pledged to bring in a new law to "swiftly exonerate and compensate victims" of the scandal.

Mr Bradshaw - who joined the unit tasked with investigating sub-postmasters in 2000 - was questioned for several hours on Thursday.

Extracts were read out from a statement by Shazia Saddiq, a former sub-postmistress originally from Newcastle, who used to run three Post Offices in the city.

"I have received... intimidating telephone calls from Stephen Bradshaw who began calling me before I knew he worked for the Post Office. He did not identify himself in his calls, he just made demands of me," the statement read.

Recalling a date in 2016, Ms Saddiq, a single mother, said: "Stephen Bradshaw called me and I refused to speak to him because I did not know who he was or who he worked for.

"In that telephone call... he called me a bitch which I found extremely distressing."

Mr Bradshaw called her claims "completely untrue". He denied "hounding" her and insisted he would always say who he was on a phone call.

Ms Saddiq said she and her children - who lived above one of their Post Offices - were physically assaulted due to the false allegations.

"People chucked flour and eggs at us and after that, we fled and I've never been back. My daughter was eight and my son four, we left so quickly that all they packed were their teddies," she told the BBC.

Jacqueline McDonald was wrongly jailed over a supposed theft in 2011.

In a statement, she accused Mr Bradshaw of bullying, saying he accused her of lying while she was under investigation.

She was sentenced to 18 months in prison after pleading guilty to theft and false accounting over losses recorded by Horizon at the Post Office branch she ran in Broughton. Her conviction was later overturned and described as an "affront to justice" by a senior Court of Appeal judge.

Despite knowing she was innocent, the inquiry heard how Mrs McDonald pleaded guilty in the hope it would mean she avoided a custodial sentence, but it ended up destroying her life.

In her 2008 interview with Mr Bradshaw, which was read to the inquiry, Mrs McDonald was accused by the investigator of telling him a "pack of lies".

Mr Bradshaw was asked in depth about his role leading the investigation into Mrs McDonald.

Counsel to the inquiry Julian Blake compared his language to something "you might see in a 1970s television detective show".

Responding to Mrs McDonald's allegations of aggressive behaviour in his witness statement, Mr Bradshaw said: "I refute the allegation that I am a liar. I also refute the claim that Jacqueline McDonald was bullied."

He added: "Jacqueline McDonald is also incorrect in stating Post Office investigators behaved like mafia gangsters looking to collect their bounty with the threats and lies."

Mr Bradshaw told the inquiry he still worked for the Post Office as a security manager.

He rejected a suggestion by Mr Blake that he recognised that Mrs McDonald's case raised wider issues with the Horizon system, but "pressed on" for "career-boosting" purposes.

In 2012, Mr Bradshaw signed a statement saying he had "absolute confidence" in the integrity of the IT system, the inquiry was told.

But he told the inquiry on Thursday that he was not "technically minded" and the statement had been written by lawyers, adding: "In hindsight... there probably should have been another line stating, 'These are not my words'."

Mr Bradshaw was also questioned about a letter concerning the case of Katherine McQue who, according to the 2011 document, was given an "indication" that a guilty plea to fraud was acceptable "so long as the defendant stipulated in her basis of plea that there was nothing wrong with Horizon".

Asked if it was appropriate "for someone representing the Post Office to say 'we will accept your plea, but only if you don't blame Horizon?'", he paused briefly before replying: "Probably not.

Post Office scandal: Investigator denies claims of '''mafia''' behaviour - BBC News

**cyrille** · 12-01-2024, 09:44 AM

It's what people in positions like that do.

It's 'CYA' at all times.

The remnants of Thatcherism.

Nothing matters but grasping the cash.

**DrWilly** · 12-01-2024, 11:19 AM

It's unbelievable, how did this go on for over a decade? Australia had a robodebt scandal (in which a computer calculated welfare payments erroneously and demand the return of the “overpayments” or “unentitled payments” of the poor and vulnerable) but that scandal was newsworthy and shut down within six months or so.

**Joe 90** · 17-01-2024, 05:14 AM

This hot topic is heating up a notch or two..

Fujitsu Europe's boss has admitted the firm has a "moral obligation" to contribute to compensation for sub-postmasters wrongly prosecuted as a result of its faulty IT software.

Paul Patterson said Fujitsu gave evidence to the Post Office that was used to prosecute innocent managers.

He added that the Post Office knew about "bugs and errors" in its Horizon accountancy software early on.

The global chief executive of Fujitsu, Takahito Tokita, also apologised.

Making his first public comments on the scandal to the BBC at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Mr Tokita said: "This is a big issue, which Fujitsu takes very seriously."

When asked if he would apologise, he added: "Yes, of course. Fujitsu has apologised for the impact on the postmasters' lives and their families."

Mr Tokita has previously turned down six interview requests by the BBC, most recently last week.

**Joe 90** · 27-01-2024, 01:38 AM

09/01/24 - We did it!
Ex-Post Office boss Paula Vennells has bowed to our 1.2 million strong petition and will hand back her CBE with immediate effect.
She said she was “truly sorry for the devastation caused to the subpostmasters and their families” and that she as continuing to support and co-operate with the inquiry into the scandal.
She added: “I am, however, aware of the calls from sub-postmasters and others to return my CBE. I have listened and I confirm that I return my CBE with immediate effect.”
David Smith, who started this petition said:
"Thank you to each and every person who has signed this petition. It has been a catalyst for action allowing us to have a voice and is hopefully a first historic step on the path to the victims of the Post Office scandal getting the justice they deserve."
“To me, the removal of the CBE is just the start. The ultimate goal is for the subpostmasters to get the justice they deserve. In many ways, this is symbolic, but it is a massive symbol."
“What I’m hoping is that as soon as somebody as senior as her is held accountable at this level, it will start a domino effect that will lead to the justice and compensation that everyone affected deserves.”
You can read more about the story here
Post Office scandal win: Paula Vennells hands back CBE - but fight for justice goes on - 38 Degrees
In other news a new petition has been started calling for Alan Bates to be honoured for his role in exposing the Post Office scandal. You can sign that here
Give Alan Bates an honour for exposing Post Office scandal
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38 Degrees

**DrWilly** · 27-01-2024, 02:35 AM

FFS…

**cyrille** · 27-01-2024, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Joe 90

09/01/24 - We did it!

Three weeks ago.

**Joe 90** · 02-02-2024, 01:10 AM

Number 10 has backed calls for Alan Bates to be knighted for his fight for justice in the Horizon scandal.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's spokeswoman said on Wednesday it would be "common sense" to honour him after a mass quashing of convictions was announced.

Mr Bates is said to have refused an OBE while ex-Post Office boss Paula Vennells still held a CBE.

She received that in 2019, in spite of the scandal.

MPs and campaigners have called for Mr Bates' honour to be re-submitted now Ms Vennells has agreed to relinquish hers in the face of a public outcry.

**cyrille** · 02-02-2024, 01:12 AM

Those letters after names mean a lot to you, eh Joe.

**DrWilly** · 02-02-2024, 01:33 AM

He’s on a roll…almost as if he has skin in this game.

**cyrille** · 02-02-2024, 01:36 AM

Why?

Who gives a shit?

It's like number 1 in the pop charts.

Used to be 'important', now...nah.

And apparently he cares, but can only communicate via copy paste?

**Joe 90** · 15-06-2024, 06:28 AM

The campaigner and former sub-postmaster, Alan Bates, was at the public inquiry into the Post Office scandal when he received the news that he was to be knighted in the King's Birthday Honours.
He had travelled from his home in Llandudno to hear former Post Office CEO Paula Vennells give evidence, breaking her near-decade long silence.
“It was all a bit of a surprise,” Sir Alan, as he is now known, told the BBC.

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