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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    My wife went the Thai way and fell for this fake 'forgive me' shit. Case closed.
    How was driving 50K to apologize "Fake' ? what in your opinion would had made it genuine?
    Thing like this happen, she apologized, case closed.

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    Nothing more to say than what almost everyone here has said. Let it go. She said police, I doubt she went to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    The teacher had a collosal loss of face.

    I'm surprised she came by

    Let it go
    And what about the loss of face my wife and daughters had to endure when the teacher started shouting in-front of onlookers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    the teacher started shouting in-front of onlookers?
    OK
    I missed that part

    Why ?

    Did you post that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    And what about the loss of face my wife and daughters had to endure when the teacher started shouting in-front of onlookers?
    ...that's why the teacher was on her knees apologizing...I suppose you could have filmed the event and posted it online to assuage hurt feelings, but would you really want to go that far?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    And what about the loss of face my wife and daughters had to endure when the teacher started shouting in-front of onlookers?
    In that case a public apology is appropriate, if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    OK
    I missed that part
    as it everyone, because he didn't mention it in the original story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Later the teacher approached my daughters and accused them of stealing her iPad, and some keys, and intended to report the incident to the police and have them prosecuted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    I don't think the teacher would say anything about it to others as to lose face
    May be not but the witnesses to the public event haven't witnessed the teacher apologising so therefore the crime stands in their eyes.


    Quote Originally Posted by DonKiddick View Post
    It's not a well paid job and everybody deserves a 2nd chance IMO.
    A second chance? But we don't know that this hasn't happened before?



    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    you want the incident to be on record in case of any comebacks in the future.
    That's exactly how I feel and hope that having the incident placed on record will clear my daughters names when the rumours start circulating within the school. And they will.

    Anyway. Up to the missus now as to how she wants to proceed. I'm only a stupid farang and I do not understand Thai culture.

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    Did she apologize to the kids? Or just your missus?

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    If the teacher made others aware of the incident, she should let them know that it was a mistake and the items were found. Case closed. Apologising in private does not undo the harm she has caused if she made her accusations public and she has a duty to right the record. She could have just not told anyone she found them so her honesty needs to be taken into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    report the incident and the teachers retraction to the head of the school, saying that you do not wish to make any complaint against the teacher, who had the decency to take responsibility and apologise for her error, but you want the incident to be on record in case of any comebacks in the future.
    ^ This

    We all know how sensitive people can be (not only Thais but it is heightened), she may feel embarrassed that she did the whole wai thing and feel demeaned and take it out on your children at a later date.

    Apologising in private for a public incident isn't sufficient.


    ^^ HC beat me to it as I was typing

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...correction: it isn't your way...you have all the Leo in the world to bury the frustration of life in Thailand...you were uncommonly wise to let your wife handle the situation...leave it at that...
    wot e said. plus she had to proove the theft, i'd have dismissed it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    report the incident and the teachers retraction to the head of the school, saying that you do not wish to make any complaint against the teacher, who had the decency to take responsibility and apologise for her error, but you want the incident to be on record in case of any comebacks in the future.
    dream on. in thailand. ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonKiddick View Post
    It's an odd one for sure.

    I think you made the right move to not go and hear the apologetic teacher as you were on the beer. But that also means you don't know how genuine the apology was - but getting down on knees is rare.

    If it was me - I'd want some form of resolution and so I'd ask the wife to arrange a meeting to meet the teacher and ask why she jumped to that conclusion and tell her how upsetting that was to hear a teacher presume such a thing about your kids.

    I'd do this over food or a coffee away from the school. Tell them at the outset, you are considering making a formal complaint and spell out why you feel the need to prevent fall-out.

    Then - if you feel she's genuinely sorry and it won't go further - forgive her. Her career might be on the line. It's not a well paid job and everybody deserves a 2nd chance IMO.

    in europe i'd have to agree, here, a whole new ball game and no chance of success without major contacts. they dont have the same laws on defamation as (the west)

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker View Post
    Did she apologize to the kids? Or just your missus?
    I wuz out at the mom and pop shop having a few Leo's but I'm told she dropped to the floor, in a manner in which Thai women wai monks and wai'd my missus before doing the standard wai to my daughters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I wuz out at the mom and pop shop having a few Leo's but I'm told she dropped to the floor, in a manner in which Thai women wai monks and wai'd my missus before doing the standard wai to my daughters.
    Job done then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    If the teacher made others aware of the incident, she should let them know that it was a mistake and the items were found. Case closed. Apologising in private does not undo the harm she has caused if she made her accusations public and she has a duty to right the record. She could have just not told anyone she found them so her honesty needs to be taken into account
    I couldn't agree more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    My wife took our 2 daughters to their school today to register the youngest for the next term. My eldest daughter, already enrolled, was approached by her teacher to drop off some stationary into the teachers rest room. She gave my daughter the keys for access. Both daughters went together and did as asked. They returned the keys and went about their business.
    I find this a little unbelievable. Do you mean the staffroom? She gave your children the keys to the staff room? We never let students into our staff rooms in all of the schools I've worked. It is generally a 'no no' that students are allowed into a staff room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    I find this a little unbelievable.

    Are you saying Pramatic is a liar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Forget it. No big deal.
    No big deal for you maybe but we're talking about 2 teenage girls that are emotionally charged due to their body changes in life. Bad enough for that to happen around the same time as being labeled a thief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    I find this a little unbelievable. Do you mean the staffroom? She gave your children the keys to the staff room? We never let students into our staff rooms in all of the schools I've worked. It is generally a 'no no' that students are allowed into a staff room.
    Unfortunately this is all 100% kosher.

    And to cap it all my MiL is/was friendly with the teacher involved as she tutored at the school in the village where we live prior to going to teach at the school where the incident happened.
    Last edited by Pragmatic; 17-04-2021 at 10:14 AM.

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    My missus has now decided to see if our daughters get any micky taken out of them come the start of the new term. If they do she intends to take things further. I'll be at the grog shop if they need me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    report the incident and the teachers retraction to the head of the school, saying that you do not wish to make any complaint against the teacher, who had the decency to take responsibility and apologise for her error, but you want the incident to be on record in case of any comebacks in the future.
    Agreed, no need for a poll.

    The irrational "teacher" needs a lesson.

    Thank fvck she came clean, could've turned nasty and still could.

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    Never, ever underestimate the ability of a Thai to double down on stupidity. An apology has been offered and accepted. The social contract is complete. Going back and picking further at the issue could have all sorts of unintended consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    I'll be at the grog shop if they need me
    ...good move...

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