The Donald thread, all things Trump.

[Cujo]

I think there's enough out there about him, and he's interesting and bizarre enough to warrant a thread all his own. After all, he will be president of the clown show one day and BM might even return to TD.
I can't find the article I was incredulously reading earlier about him going to Israel to meet the Israeli PM but here's one.
It seems the Mussies are trying to get him banned from the U.K.
So much for free speech, the lefty poms truly are in a class of their own when it comes to trying to censure people.

Donald Trump will not be barred from Britain despite Muslims outburst
Petition calling for US presidential candidate to be denied entry to UK on grounds of hate speech racks up nearly 360,000 signatures in 24 hours.
The government has signalled it will not refuse the US presidential candidate Donald Trump entry to Britain following his controversial comments about Muslims, despite a petition calling for a ban gathering more than 360,000 signatures in just over 24 hours.

At the height of its popularity on Wednesday afternoon, the petition, which calls for Trump to be stopped from entering Britain on the grounds of hate speech, was racking up more than 30,000 signatures an hour, according to parliament’s petitions website.

Parliament considers all petitions that receive more than 100,000 signatures for a debate. The petition to ban Trump, which became open for signatures at 4.39pm Tuesday, had been signed by 360,0090 people by midnight on Wednesday.

It says: “The signatories believe Donald J Trump should be banned from UK entry. The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

“If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the ‘unacceptable behaviour’ criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful.”

Utterly repellent and malignant: world reacts to Trump's anti-Muslim tirade
The petition comes after Trump was widely criticised for saying on Monday that Muslims should be banned from entering the US. He said in a speech following a mass shooting committed by a Muslim couple in San Bernardino, California, last weekend: “We need a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States while we figure out what the hell is going on. We are out of control.”

On Tuesday, there was widespread condemnation of Trump’s comments, including from fellow Republican presidential contenders. And later comments from the presidential hopeful in a radio interview that there were districts of London and Paris so “radicalised” that they were off limits to police led to further angry rebuttals from UK politicians and the police.

Donald Trump says parts of London are so ‘radicalised’ that police officers are ‘afraid for their own lives
The London Metropolitan police said Trump “could not be more wrong”, while the mayor of London, Boris Johnson, said: “London has a proud history of tolerance and diversity and to suggest there are areas where police officers cannot go because of radicalisation is simply ridiculous.”

The UK chancellor, George Osborne, said on Wednesday it was best to combat Donald Trump through robust democratic debate and not to try to ban him from the UK on the grounds that his remarks incited racial hatred.

Speaking at prime minister’s questions, Osborne said Trump’s views “flew in the face of the founding principles of the American founding fathers”, adding that those principles had been an inspiration all round the world.

He continued: “The best way to defeat nonsense like this is to engage in robust and democratic debate, and to make it clear his views are not welcome.”

Osborne’s aides said the previous occasions when foreigners had been banned from the UK reflected moments when individuals had been repeatedly convicted of race hate crimes, and this did not apply to Trump.

Boris Johnson: Trump is clearly out of his mind
A Downing Street spokesman said there were no known plans for Trump to visit the UK, so suggestions of a ban from Britain were hypothetical. He added the remarks should be seen in the context of an internal Republican election campaign.

Jon Trickett, the shadow communities secretary, praised Osborne’s remarks as clear and straightforward. He said it was “entirely inappropriate to suggest every follower of one of the world’s great religions has to be suspected of terrorism”. He added it was “wrong, divisive, dangerous and may speed up the radicalisation of individuals”.

Although he said it was interesting that so many people had called for a ban, Trickett said he preferred staging a debate, rather than imposing travel bans.

Met blasts Donald Trump for 'London police in fear' claim
The home secretary can decide to exclude a person from the UK if it is believed that an “individual’s presence in the UK would not be conducive to the public good”, according to government guidance. In effect, that usually means people seen to be preaching hate or inciting extremism. However, individuals can also be blocked on the grounds of their criminal records.

People previously banned from Britain include Mike Tyson, over his rape conviction, Dieudonné M’bala M’bala, the controversial French comedian accused of antisemitism, and Stephen Donald Black, founder of the white-supremacist website Stormfront.

The Home Office said it did not comment in individual cases.

Meanwhile, Nicola Sturgeon has moved to sever all Scottish government business links with Donald Trump. The first minister withdrew Trump’s membership of the GlobalScot business network, run by Scottish Enterprise, with immediate effect.

A Scottish government spokesperson said: “Mr Trump’s recent remarks have shown that he is no longer fit to be a business ambassador for Scotland and the first minister has decided his membership of the respected GlobalScot business network should be withdrawn with immediate effect.”

Sturgeon described Trump’s comments as “obnoxious and offensive”, and “rightly … condemned by people across the political spectrum”.

Trump was invited to join the GlobalScot network, which describes itself as a “diverse network of business leaders, entrepreneurs and executives with a connection to Scotland”, in 2006.

Meanwhile, more than 10,000 people have so far signed a petition calling for Aberdeen’s Robert Gordon University (RGU) to revoke the honorary degree awarded to Trump in 2010 in recognition of his “business acumen and entrepreneurial vision”. The decision was controversial at the time, with a former RGU principal handing back his own honorary doctorate in protest.

A RGU spokeswoman said the current principal, Ferdinand von Prondzynski, was “considering the position”, adding: “Professor von Prondzynski is totally committed to equality of opportunity and to respect for different cultures, values which are an important part of RGU’s ethos.”

Donald Trump will not be barred from Britain despite Muslims outburst | US news | The Guardian

After calling for Muslims to be banned from entering the U.S. I wonder how his Israel trip will go.

[Looper]

I generally enjoy the Donald's provocative lines of rhetoric but I think he has jumped the shark this time, which is a shame as it was an entertaining run.

[rickschoppers]

Sad to say, but of all the current presidential candidates, he makes the most sense. He does need to look at his choice of words though, since he ha an excellent chance of winning the Republican party nomination.

[harrybarracuda]

Sad to say, but of all the current presidential candidates, he makes the most sense.

He makes sense to drooling racist redneck retards, no-one else.

[rickschoppers]

^^
He is a very rich nutter then and has had many ideas that have made him millions. Can you say the same about most other politicians? He also has not been bought like everyone else.

Maybe you should run for president Dragonflop.

[rickschoppers]

And who is the leader of your home country Harry?

[Dragonfly]

He is a very rich nutter then and has had many ideas that have made him millions. Can you say the same about most other politicians? He also has not been bought like everyone else.

we have all seen what President billionaires can do to a country (GW Bush) and it's not pretty

he has also filed for bankruptcy more times than you can count,

he is a fraud and a very good entertainer, perfect for fools and conservatives idiots

[rickschoppers]

And who bought GW?

[panama hat]

After calling for Muslims to be banned from entering the U.S. I wonder how his Israel trip will go.

He probably thinks Israelis hate Arabs/Muslims . . . what a rertard

Sad to say, but of all the current presidential candidates, he makes the most sense.

No surprise for you to say that, so:

he is a complete nutter, and a fraud

. . . and . . .

He makes sense to drooling racist redneck retards, no-one else.

And who is the leader of your home country Harry?

Forgotten the thread title already?

And who bought GW?

Forgotten the thread title already?


I still predict he'll fizzle or chuck a wobbly and declare that his mission was to pull the Republican party out of the doldrums . . .

[Dragonfly]

And who bought GW?

Saudi Arabia, Goldman Sachs, Halliburton, Corporate America etc...

being a billionaire doesn't protect you from being corrupted or bought out

plenty of examples in the last decade of corrupted billionaires mixing up with politics

Trump is no exception, he is simply more vocal and entertaining, the perfect combination for bored brain dead Americans who think politics has become too complex for them to understand

[buriramboy]

America deserves to have The Donald as its next president.

[Cujo]

Wonder if he'll make it back.


Israeli PM to meet Donald Trump despite outcry over call for Muslim ban
Netanyahu rejects calls to cancel meeting over Republican presidential frontrunner’s remarks that Muslims should be banned from entering the US

The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has confirmed he will meet Donald Trump despite an international outcry over the Republican presidential frontrunner’s suggestion that Muslims should be banned from entering the US.

The meeting – scheduled before Trump’s remarks triggered outrage in the US and globally – is due to take place on 28 December and is certain to be controversial in a country where a large minority of Israeli citizens are Muslims of Palestinian origin. Dozens of Israeli MPs have called for the invitation to be rescinded.

Several hours after confirming the meeting, Netanyahu’s office tweeted that the prime minister rejected Trump’s comments about Muslims, but added: “Israel is fighting against militant Islam that targets Muslims, Christians and Jews alike and threatens the entire world.”
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejects Donald Trump's recent remarks about Muslims.

In a string of tweets, the prime minister’s office said Netanyahu had agreed to meet any US presidential candidate who visited Israel.

“This policy does not represent an endorsement of any candidate or his or her views. Rather, it is an expression of the importance that PM Netanyahu attributes to the strong alliance between Israel and the United States.”

Visits by US presidential candidates to Israel are often seen as much a part of their campaigning as being on the stump in Iowa or New Hampshire. The decision to go ahead with the meeting comes 24 hours after Trump’s comments and after the Israeli prime minister’s office declined to comment on the Republican’s remarks in light of his planned visit. Trump will not, however, be visiting neighbouring Jordan as had earlier been suggested.

The meeting was arranged a couple of weeks ago, Netanyahu’s office said on Wednesday, adding that the prime minister would meet any candidate from any party who arrives in Israel and seeks a meeting.

Trump announced on 3 December his plan to visit Israel. “Very soon I’m going to Israel,” Trump said at a rally in Virginia. “I’m going to be meeting with Bibi Netanyahu who’s a great guy – I love Israel and will support it wholeheartedly.”

The visit seems certain to be a minefield of protocol and diplomatic stage management, not least because of inflammatory remarks made by Netanyahu during Israel’s elections this year when he warned voters of “Arab voters coming out in droves”.

Trump’s visit also coincides with a period of renewed violence between Israelis and Palestinians.

Defending the move, sources close to Netanyahu said the Israeli leader “doesn’t agree with every statement by every candidate”.

Israel’s Channel 2 TV said the meeting would go ahead despite a letter the television company said had been signed by dozens of Israeli MPs opposing it. Among those opposing Trump’s visit was Issawi Frej, from the leftwing Meretz party, who asked the interior minister, Silvan Shalom, to block Trump’s visit.

“As an Israeli citizen, I ask that the state treat the racism against me in the same way it would relate to racism against Jews. Just as it is obvious that Israel wouldn’t allow an antisemite to use it to advance its political goals, so too, should be the case of Trump,” Frej said in a statement.

Omer Bar-Lev, from the Zionist Union, has also gone public with his opposition to Trump’s visit, tweeting: “As far as it depends on me, this racist @realDonaldTrump should not be welcome in the @knessetisrael.”

Trump’s comments also triggered strong criticism from leading US Jewish organisations, including the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) which said: “A plan that singles out Muslims and denies them entry to the US based on their religion is deeply offensive, and runs contrary to our nation’s deepest values.”

Jonathan Greenblatt, the ADL’s chief executive, said: “Mr Trump’s plan to bar people from entry to the United States based on their religion is unacceptable and antithetical to American values. The US was founded as a place of refuge for those fleeing religious persecution, and religious pluralism is core to our national identity. A plan that singles out Muslims and denies them entry to the US based on their religion is deeply offensive and runs contrary to our nation’s deepest values.”

Trumps comments follow speeches in which he has used bigoted and racist language to target various groups including Mexicans.

On Monday the billionaire called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the country “until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on”.

He added: “Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life.”

Michael Oren, a former ambassador to the US and Israeli MP with the rightwing Kulanu party, said of Israel: “It’s important for leaders of a country close to 20% of whose population is Muslim to stand up and say that we distinguish between radical violent Islam and the faith that inspires millions not just here but internationally.”
Israeli PM to meet Donald Trump despite outcry over call for Muslim ban | World news | The Guardian
Israeli PM to meet Donald Trump despite outcry over call for Muslim ban | World news | The Guardian

[rickschoppers]

Just curious PH, which presidential candidate makes more sense to you than Donald Trump?

[rickschoppers]

And who bought GW?

Saudi Arabia, Goldman Sachs, Halliburton, Corporate America etc...

being a billionaire doesn't protect you from being corrupted or bought out

plenty of examples in the last decade of corrupted billionaires mixing up with politics

Trump is no exception, he is simply more vocal and entertaining, the perfect combination for bored brain dead Americans who think politics has become too complex for them to understand

Actually Dragonflop, I dislike all things political. I was merely making a statement that Donald Trump seems to have a very good chance of becoming the Republican nominee and that he has made some good business moves. Personally, I could care less who becomes the next president of the US.

At least Trump is using his money for his own campaign.

You are right that all billionaires did not get rich my being nice people. Politicians are the worst kind of scum, no matter what country it is.

[Cujo]

Just curious PH, which presidential candidate makes more sense to you than Donald Trump?

All of them? (except Carson of course)

[rickschoppers]

Hardly Cujo.

[Dragonfly94]

How is it 'hate speech' to want to defend your country? he only said a temporary halt to the Islamic scum, and nothing to do with American citizens.

[thaimeme]

How is it 'hate speech' to want to defend your country? he only said a temporary halt to the Islamic scum, and nothing to do with American citizens.

Isn't that how Hitler and the Nazi movement rise to power...??
Fear and twisted manipulation regarding nationalism.

Mirrored obliviously.
Dangerous.

[Storekeeper]

Just curious PH, which presidential candidate makes more sense to you than Donald Trump?

All of them? (except Carson of course)

Kasich is the only one who makes the slightest amount of sense.

[thaimeme]

[Toby451]

After calling for Muslims to be banned from entering the U.S. I wonder how his Israel trip will go.

he'll go down a treat there , prob be given a hero's welcome

[Toby451]

He makes sense to drooling racist redneck retards, no-one else.

so I guess he can be counting on your vote then

[Dapper]

Sad to say, but of all the current presidential candidates, he makes the most sense. He does need to look at his choice of words though, since he ha an excellent chance of winning the Republican party nomination.

You fvckin bellend
Change your AV
You're giving the dude a bad name

[Dapper]

America deserves to have The Donald as its next president.

Now that is a fair and sadly reflectionry fact.
May the American Phoenix rise from the ashes.
I'm almost dead, but that's my vote for the survival of humanity.

[rickschoppers]

Sad to say, but of all the current presidential candidates, he makes the most sense. He does need to look at his choice of words though, since he ha an excellent chance of winning the Republican party nomination.

You fvckin bellend
Change your AV
You're giving the dude a bad name

Terry Thomas is rolling over in his grave knowing someone like you is using him for their avatar. Get a clue Dapper Dan.