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    Underwear Bomber victim speaks out

    Bear in mind, this particular "attempted terror attack" was the pretext for the rollout of the carcinogenic naked body scanners across US airports. Well you can opt out of the scanner, in favor of the TSA agent fondling your, your kids and/or your grandparents' junk.


    BREAKING: Kurt Haskell Exposes Government False Flag Operation During Underwear Bomber Sentencing


    Exclusive: Personal Statement from Kurt Haskell, Delta 253 Passenger

    Kurt Haskell
    Thursday, February 16, 2012


    Every victim of a crime in Michigan is entitled to make a statement in open court regarding the impact of the crime on their life. The statement is limited to the victim’s physical, emotional and financial well being as it relates to the crime. Keep that in mind as you read my statement. Below is a copy of the victim impact statement I gave today at the Underwear Bomber sentencing hearing. When reading my statement, keep in mind that I am a practicing attorney in the State of Michigan. In addition, I regularly practice in the Court the hearings are taking place at and therefore, I am somewhat limited as to what I can say. We were limited to 5 minutes each.




    I wish to thank the Court for allowing me these 5 minutes to make my statement. My references to the government in this statement refer to the Federal Government excluding this Court and the prosecution. On Christmas Day 2009, my wife and I were returning from an African safari and had a connecting flight through Amsterdam. As we waited for our flight, we sat on the floor next to the boarding gate. What I witnessed while sitting there and subsequent events have changed my life forever. While I sat there, I witnessed Umar dressed in jeans and a white t-shirt, being escorted around security by a man in a tan suit who spoke perfect American English and who aided Umar in boarding without a passport. The airline gate worker initially refused Umar boarding until the man in the tan suit intervened. The event meant nothing to me at the time. Little did I know that Umar would try to kill me a few hours later as our flight approached Detroit. The final 10 minutes of our flight after the attack were the worst minutes of my life. During those 10 minutes I sat paralyzed in fear. Unfortunately, what happened next has had an even greater impact on my life and has saddened me further.


    When we landed, I was shocked that our plane taxied up to the gate. I was further shocked that we were forced to sit on the plane for 20 minutes with powder from the so called bomb all over the cabin. The officers that boarded the plane did nothing to ensure our safety and did not check for accomplices or other explosive devices. Several passengers trampled through parts of the bomb as they exited the plane. We were then taken into the terminal with our unchecked carry on bags. Again, there was no concern for our safety even though Umar told the officers that there was another bomb on board as he exited the plane. I wondered why nobody was concerned about our safety, accomplices or other bombs and the lack of concern worried me greatly. I immediately told the FBI my story in order to help catch the accomplice I had seen in Amsterdam. It soon became obvious that the FBI wasn’t interested in what I had to say, which upset me further. For one month the government refused to admit the existence of the man in the tan suit before changing course and admitting his existence in an ABC News article on January 22, 2010. That was the last time the government talked about this man. The video that would prove the truth of my account has never been released. I continue to be emotionally upset that the video has not been released. The Dutch police, meanwhile, in this article (show article), also confirmed that Umar did not show his passport in Amsterdam which also meant that he didn’t go through security as both are in the same line in Amsterdam. It upsets me that the government refuses to admit this fact.


    I became further saddened from this case, when Patrick Kennedy of the State Department during Congressional hearings, admitted that Umar was a known terrorist, was being followed, and the U.S. allowed him into the U.S. so that it could catch Umar’s accomplices. I was once again shocked and saddened when Michael Leiter of the National Counter terrorism Center admitted during these same hearings that intentionally letting terrorists into the U.S. was a frequent practice of the U.S. Government. I cannot fully explain my sadness, disappointment and fear when I realized that my government allowed an attack on me intentionally.


    During this time, I questioned if my country intentionally put a known terrorist onto my flight with a live bomb. I had many sleepless nights over this issue. My answer came shortly thereafter. In late 2010, the FBI admitted to giving out intentionally defective bombs to the Portland Christmas Tree Bomber,the Wrigley Field Bomber and several others. Further, Mr. Chambers was quoted in the Free Press on January 11, 2011 when he indicated that the government’s own explosives experts had indicated that Umar’s bomb was impossibly defective. I wondered how that could be. Certainly, I thought, Al Qaeda wouldn’t go through all of the trouble to plan such an attack only to provide the terrorist with an impossibly defective bomb.


    I attended nearly all of the pretrial hearings. At the hearing on January 28, 2011, I was greatly disappointed by the prosecution’s request to block evidence from Mr. Chambers “as it could then be able to be obtained by third parties, who could use it in a civil suit against the government”. It really bothered me that the government apparently was admitting to wrongdoing of some kind as it admitted that it was concerned it would be sued. It further upset me to know that the government was putting its own interests ahead of those of the passengers.

    When I attended the jury selection hearings, I questioned why versions of the same two questions kept coming up, those being:

    1. Do you think you’ll be able to tell whether something is actually a bomb? and


    2. Do you realize that sometimes the media doesn’t always tell the truth?


    I continued to be greatly saddened at this point as I felt the truth continued to be hidden.


    When Umar listed me as his only witness, I was happy to testify, not on his behalf, but on behalf of the truth. I never expected to testify, as my eyewitness account would have been too damaging to the myth that the government and media are putting forward. A mere 5 days after I was announced as a witness, there was an inexplicable guilty plea which exasperated me as I no longer would be testifying.


    In closing I will just say that regardless of how the media and government try to shape the public perception of this case, I am convinced that Umar was given an intentionally defective bomb by a U.S. Government agent and placed on our flight without showing a passport or going through security, to stage a false terrorist attack to be used to implement various government policies.


    The effect this matter has had on my life has been astounding and due to this case, I will never trust the government in any matter, ever.


    In regards to sentencing, nothing I’ve said excuses the fact that Umar tried to kill me. He has waived his valid claim to the entrapment defense. Umar, you are not a great Muslim martyr, you are merely a “Patsy”. I ask the court to impose the mandatory sentence.

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    maybe so, but it has been shown time and time again that the FBI can only catch terrorists by encouraging them to become one and supplying the wherewithal to do so

    why do they do it? Is it to boost their own popularity by showing how effective they are at keeping the nation safe?

    or is it part of the wider picture that terrorists need to be active so that the government can keep spending vast amounts of taxpayers money on anti-terrorism?
    I have reported your post

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    You really are as stupid as you post, aren't you, 'handshandy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    maybe so, but it has been shown time and time again that the FBI can only catch terrorists by encouraging them to become one and supplying the wherewithal to do so

    why do they do it? Is it to boost their own popularity by showing how effective they are at keeping the nation safe?

    or is it part of the wider picture that terrorists need to be active so that the government can keep spending vast amounts of taxpayers money on anti-terrorism?
    yep

    Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)

    FBI’s nation-wide stable of patsies can be switched “live” at any moment


    Tony Cartalucci
    Prison Planet.com
    February 17, 2012

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has once again proven that the only thing Americans need fear, is their own government, with the latest “terror attack” foiled being one entirely of their own design.




    USA Today reports that a suspect had been arrested by the FBI who was “en route to the U.S. Capitol allegedly to detonate a suicide bomb.” While initial reports portrayed the incident as a narrowly averted terrorist attack, CBS would report that a “high ranking source told CBS News the man was “never a real threat.”" The explosives the would-be bomber carried were provided to him by the FBI during what they described as a “lengthy and extensive operation.” The only contact the suspect had with “Al Qaeda” was with FBI officials posing as associates of the elusive, omnipresent, bearded terror conglomerate. The FBI, much like their MI5 counterparts in England, have a propensity for recruiting likely candidates from mosques they covertly run.

    This is but the latest in a string of national terror plots carried out from start to finish by the FBI, who has made a business of approaching likely candidates and grooming them to carry out terror attacks. In September 2011, another FBI terror operation targeting the Capitol was “foiled,” involving a patsy who believed he was to take part in an assault that would involve multiple gunmen and even a drone bomber provided to him by the FBI.

    And perhaps the most dubious of all, was the December 2010 Portland “Christmas Tree Bomber,” who was also approached by the FBI, provided demolition training, including a demonstration with live explosives performed in a Lincoln County park, and a van within which the patsy believed his handlers had provided him a bomb. The van with the inert device was parked next to a crowded Christmas tree lighting ceremony where the patsy attempted to detonate it remotely before being arrested by FBI agents.

    It would later turn out that Portland had heroically withdrew from the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, (JTTF), with the operation then being carried out behind Portland Mayor Sam Adam’s back only for its conclusion to humiliatingly catch the mayor off guard. The city of Portland would eventually rejoin the JTTF after the fallout from the FBI’s own terror plot.

    The FBI is carrying out what is essentially a campaign of entrapment fueling what alternative news outlet Media Monarchy appropriately calls “terronoia.” And while it is true that these incidents are being used to foment a climate of fear to justify the ongoing “War on Terror,” there is a more sinister implication readers must be aware of.

    In 1993 the FBI was carrying out an identical “sting operation” in New York City. The target was the World Trade Center, the weapon of choice would be a bomb-laden van, that like the above mentioned attacks, was supposed to contain an inert device. Helping the FBI was an Egyptian informant, Emad Salem, who over the course of the investigation grew suspicious of the federal agents and began recording his phone conversations with them.

    From these recordings released by the New York Times, it turns out that the FBI switched out the inert device for real explosives at the last moment resulting in an attack that killed 6 and injured over a thousand. Despite this evidence, the 1993 bombing is still to this day attributed to “terrorists” with the FBI’s involvement muted if ever mentioned.

    The implications are of course, with the FBI’s current nationwide stable of patsies being trained, directed, and provided material support to carry out attacks the FBI then “foils,” is at any given moment, any one of these operations can be switched “live” just as in 1993. The resulting carnage can then be used to manipulate public opinion just as it was in 1993, 2001, on 7/7 in London, and in Madrid, Spain in 2004.

    The risk rises exponentially now with Israel being confirmed to be training, arming, and directing US State Department-listed terrorist organization, the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, also known as Mujahedeen e-Khalq (MEK). The US has also played an extensive role in supporting MEK who is currently carrying out a campaign of terror inside of Iran.

    This is part of a plot by the US indicated in its own policy papers, openly conspiring to provoke a war with Iran. This is best encapsulated in this often cited quote from US policy think-tank, Brookings Institution:
    “…it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be. Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.) ”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, pages 84-85.
    The same report would go on to say:
    “In a similar vein, any military operation against Iran will likely be very unpopular around the world and require the proper international context—both to ensure the logistical support the operation would require and to minimize the blowback from it. The best way to minimize international opprobrium and maximize support (however, grudging or covert) is to strike only when there is a widespread conviction that the Iranians were given but then rejected a superb offer—one so good that only a regime determined to acquire nuclear weapons and acquire them for the wrong reasons would turn it down. Under those circumstances, the United States (or Israel) could portray its operations as taken in sorrow, not anger, and at least some in the international community would conclude that the Iranians “brought it on themselves” by refusing a very good deal.”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, page 52.
    Clearly those in the West intent on striking Iran realize both the difficulty of obtaining a plausible justification, and the lack of support they have globally to carry out an attack even if they manage to find a suitable pretext. Brookings would continue throughout their report enumerating methods of provoking Iran, including conspiring to fund opposition groups to overthrow the Iranian government, crippling Iran’s economy, and funding US State Department-listed terrorist organizations (MEK) to carry deadly attacks within Iran itself. Despite these overt acts of war, and even considering an option to unilaterally conduct limited airstrikes against Iranian targets, Brookings noted there was still the strong possibility Iran would not allow itself to be sufficiently provoked:
    “It would not be inevitable that Iran would lash out violently in response to an American air campaign, but no American president should blithely assume that it would not.”
    The report continues:
    “However, because many Iranian leaders would likely be looking to emerge from the fighting in as advantageous a strategic position as possible, and because they would likely calculate that playing the victim would be their best route to that goal, they might well refrain from such retaliatory missile attacks.”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, page 95.

    With this in mind, and with the 1993 World Trade Center attack as a historical precedent, it is almost a certainty that the West and Mossad are carrying out the current global wave of bombings now being blamed on Iran. This includes two failed bombings in India and Georgia, and a more recent incident in Bangkok, Thailand.

    Law enforcement officers across America may be witnessing the FBI conducting through their JTTF what they believe to be a “sting operation” that may end up being the next major terrorist attack on US soil – and the pretext for certain war with Iran.

    The fears of Portland Mayor Sam Adams were well founded, and it took an act of terror to strong-arm him and the people of Portland into capitulating to the federal JTTF program. Local law enforcement, for the safety of themselves and the people they are charged to serve and protect, would be wise to keep an eye on the FBI – apparently the most likely source from which terror plots both “foiled” and “successful” are hatched.

    Land Destroyer: Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)

    Tony Cartalucci’s articles can be read at Land Destroyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    You really are as stupid as you post, aren't you, 'handshandy?

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    This is what gets me.If you are in the FBI and are going to do something like this..."DON'T GET CAUGHT"

    Stupid pricks

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    You really are as stupid as you post, aren't you, 'handshandy?

    excellent post, the Gents; pity that you don't live in the real world

    at least Baitongbumboy loves you

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    at least Baitongbumboy loves you
    Typical AnalAndy post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    why do they do it? Is it to boost their own popularity by showing how effective they are at keeping the nation safe? or is it part of the wider picture that terrorists need to be active so that the government can keep spending vast amounts of taxpayers money on anti-terrorism?
    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    You really are as stupid as you post, aren't you, 'handshandy?
    as it has been proven time and time again, the FBI set up these bombers, why do you think they do it?

    I am sure your answer will be intelligent and full of background information

    or are you just full of shit and piss?

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    It's scary enough that the F.B.I do this shit but what is even scarier is the fact they continually get away with it and those dumbfuck SEPPOS continually put up with it.One repercussion of this shit is the full body scanners we will all have to put up with.It's ok to say it won't be a problem if you have nothing to hide but the fact remains it wouldn't be a problem if those dumb SEPPOS hadn't set up a situation to suit their own purpose. They play we pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HansuMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    maybe so, but it has been shown time and time again that the FBI can only catch terrorists by encouraging them to become one and supplying the wherewithal to do so

    why do they do it? Is it to boost their own popularity by showing how effective they are at keeping the nation safe?

    or is it part of the wider picture that terrorists need to be active so that the government can keep spending vast amounts of taxpayers money on anti-terrorism?
    yep
    Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)

    FBI’s nation-wide stable of patsies can be switched “live” at any moment


    Tony Cartalucci
    Prison Planet.com
    February 17, 2012

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has once again proven that the only thing Americans need fear, is their own government, with the latest “terror attack” foiled being one entirely of their own design.




    USA Today reports that a suspect had been arrested by the FBI who was “en route to the U.S. Capitol allegedly to detonate a suicide bomb.” While initial reports portrayed the incident as a narrowly averted terrorist attack, CBS would report that a “high ranking source told CBS News the man was “never a real threat.”" The explosives the would-be bomber carried were provided to him by the FBI during what they described as a “lengthy and extensive operation.” The only contact the suspect had with “Al Qaeda” was with FBI officials posing as associates of the elusive, omnipresent, bearded terror conglomerate. The FBI, much like their MI5 counterparts in England, have a propensity for recruiting likely candidates from mosques they covertly run.

    This is but the latest in a string of national terror plots carried out from start to finish by the FBI, who has made a business of approaching likely candidates and grooming them to carry out terror attacks. In September 2011, another FBI terror operation targeting the Capitol was “foiled,” involving a patsy who believed he was to take part in an assault that would involve multiple gunmen and even a drone bomber provided to him by the FBI.

    And perhaps the most dubious of all, was the December 2010 Portland “Christmas Tree Bomber,” who was also approached by the FBI, provided demolition training, including a demonstration with live explosives performed in a Lincoln County park, and a van within which the patsy believed his handlers had provided him a bomb. The van with the inert device was parked next to a crowded Christmas tree lighting ceremony where the patsy attempted to detonate it remotely before being arrested by FBI agents.

    It would later turn out that Portland had heroically withdrew from the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, (JTTF), with the operation then being carried out behind Portland Mayor Sam Adam’s back only for its conclusion to humiliatingly catch the mayor off guard. The city of Portland would eventually rejoin the JTTF after the fallout from the FBI’s own terror plot.

    The FBI is carrying out what is essentially a campaign of entrapment fueling what alternative news outlet Media Monarchy appropriately calls “terronoia.” And while it is true that these incidents are being used to foment a climate of fear to justify the ongoing “War on Terror,” there is a more sinister implication readers must be aware of.

    In 1993 the FBI was carrying out an identical “sting operation” in New York City. The target was the World Trade Center, the weapon of choice would be a bomb-laden van, that like the above mentioned attacks, was supposed to contain an inert device. Helping the FBI was an Egyptian informant, Emad Salem, who over the course of the investigation grew suspicious of the federal agents and began recording his phone conversations with them.

    From these recordings released by the New York Times, it turns out that the FBI switched out the inert device for real explosives at the last moment resulting in an attack that killed 6 and injured over a thousand. Despite this evidence, the 1993 bombing is still to this day attributed to “terrorists” with the FBI’s involvement muted if ever mentioned.

    The implications are of course, with the FBI’s current nationwide stable of patsies being trained, directed, and provided material support to carry out attacks the FBI then “foils,” is at any given moment, any one of these operations can be switched “live” just as in 1993. The resulting carnage can then be used to manipulate public opinion just as it was in 1993, 2001, on 7/7 in London, and in Madrid, Spain in 2004.

    The risk rises exponentially now with Israel being confirmed to be training, arming, and directing US State Department-listed terrorist organization, the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, also known as Mujahedeen e-Khalq (MEK). The US has also played an extensive role in supporting MEK who is currently carrying out a campaign of terror inside of Iran.

    This is part of a plot by the US indicated in its own policy papers, openly conspiring to provoke a war with Iran. This is best encapsulated in this often cited quote from US policy think-tank, Brookings Institution:
    “…it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be. Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.) ”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, pages 84-85.
    The same report would go on to say:
    “In a similar vein, any military operation against Iran will likely be very unpopular around the world and require the proper international context—both to ensure the logistical support the operation would require and to minimize the blowback from it. The best way to minimize international opprobrium and maximize support (however, grudging or covert) is to strike only when there is a widespread conviction that the Iranians were given but then rejected a superb offer—one so good that only a regime determined to acquire nuclear weapons and acquire them for the wrong reasons would turn it down. Under those circumstances, the United States (or Israel) could portray its operations as taken in sorrow, not anger, and at least some in the international community would conclude that the Iranians “brought it on themselves” by refusing a very good deal.”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, page 52.
    Clearly those in the West intent on striking Iran realize both the difficulty of obtaining a plausible justification, and the lack of support they have globally to carry out an attack even if they manage to find a suitable pretext. Brookings would continue throughout their report enumerating methods of provoking Iran, including conspiring to fund opposition groups to overthrow the Iranian government, crippling Iran’s economy, and funding US State Department-listed terrorist organizations (MEK) to carry deadly attacks within Iran itself. Despite these overt acts of war, and even considering an option to unilaterally conduct limited airstrikes against Iranian targets, Brookings noted there was still the strong possibility Iran would not allow itself to be sufficiently provoked:
    “It would not be inevitable that Iran would lash out violently in response to an American air campaign, but no American president should blithely assume that it would not.”
    The report continues:
    “However, because many Iranian leaders would likely be looking to emerge from the fighting in as advantageous a strategic position as possible, and because they would likely calculate that playing the victim would be their best route to that goal, they might well refrain from such retaliatory missile attacks.”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, page 95.

    With this in mind, and with the 1993 World Trade Center attack as a historical precedent, it is almost a certainty that the West and Mossad are carrying out the current global wave of bombings now being blamed on Iran. This includes two failed bombings in India and Georgia, and a more recent incident in Bangkok, Thailand.

    Law enforcement officers across America may be witnessing the FBI conducting through their JTTF what they believe to be a “sting operation” that may end up being the next major terrorist attack on US soil – and the pretext for certain war with Iran.

    The fears of Portland Mayor Sam Adams were well founded, and it took an act of terror to strong-arm him and the people of Portland into capitulating to the federal JTTF program. Local law enforcement, for the safety of themselves and the people they are charged to serve and protect, would be wise to keep an eye on the FBI – apparently the most likely source from which terror plots both “foiled” and “successful” are hatched.

    Land Destroyer: Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)

    Tony Cartalucci’s articles can be read at Land Destroyer.
    Interesting, hilarious and scary all at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    This is what gets me.If you are in the FBI and are going to do something like this..."DON'T GET CAUGHT"

    Stupid pricks
    What's weird is, they don't try to hide how they string these retarded patsies along, supply them with everything etc- then posture as the "heroes" when they foil their own plots, which would not even otherwise exist?! The other article above, "Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)" details several other such sensational entrapments of half-wits, including the 1993 WTC bombing, in which the FBI themselves gave their patsy a live bomb to blow up in the garage beneath WTC?!

    In 1993 the FBI was carrying out an identical “sting operation” in New York City. The target was the World Trade Center, the weapon of choice would be a bomb-laden van, that like the above mentioned attacks, was supposed to contain an inert device. Helping the FBI was an Egyptian informant, Emad Salem, who over the course of the investigation grew suspicious of the federal agents and began recording his phone conversations with them.

    From these recordings released by the New York Times, it turns out that the FBI switched out the inert device for real explosives at the last moment resulting in an attack that killed 6 and injured over a thousand. Despite this evidence, the 1993 bombing is still to this day attributed to “terrorists” with the FBI’s involvement muted if ever mentioned.
    Well they finally blew up the WTC good like on 9/11- knocked down 3 steel-frame skyscrapers with only 2 planes, fancy that!



    Anyways, a little more on the "Underwear Bomber" story, the Haskells have a blog where they've written about their experiences. Also see:


    Israeli firm blasted for letting would-be plane bomber slip through - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News



    Underwear Bomber Redux - Was Mutallab An Israeli "Secret Weapon"? -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net



    The Underwear Bomber - Crushing Freedom With Phony Arab Terrorism -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net

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    theGents is strangely quiet about why the FBI do these things


    maybe he is the stupid one; he doesn't know either

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    ^Give it a rest AnalAndy...comments are about your general stupidity...

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    what, you have become the Gents minder as well as his bumboy, Nothingboy?

    right, he will be pleased

    maybe you should mind your own business, or try to answer the post with some actaul information, as he doesn't seem to be able to

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    Oh dear, 'handshandy, you sound as if someone stole all your marbles and gave you a wedgie to boot.

    Time to grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HansuMan View Post
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    maybe so, but it has been shown time and time again that the FBI can only catch terrorists by encouraging them to become one and supplying the wherewithal to do so

    why do they do it? Is it to boost their own popularity by showing how effective they are at keeping the nation safe?

    or is it part of the wider picture that terrorists need to be active so that the government can keep spending vast amounts of taxpayers money on anti-terrorism?
    yep
    Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)

    FBI’s nation-wide stable of patsies can be switched “live” at any moment


    Tony Cartalucci
    Prison Planet.com
    February 17, 2012

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has once again proven that the only thing Americans need fear, is their own government, with the latest “terror attack” foiled being one entirely of their own design.




    USA Today reports that a suspect had been arrested by the FBI who was “en route to the U.S. Capitol allegedly to detonate a suicide bomb.” While initial reports portrayed the incident as a narrowly averted terrorist attack, CBS would report that a “high ranking source told CBS News the man was “never a real threat.”" The explosives the would-be bomber carried were provided to him by the FBI during what they described as a “lengthy and extensive operation.” The only contact the suspect had with “Al Qaeda” was with FBI officials posing as associates of the elusive, omnipresent, bearded terror conglomerate. The FBI, much like their MI5 counterparts in England, have a propensity for recruiting likely candidates from mosques they covertly run.

    This is but the latest in a string of national terror plots carried out from start to finish by the FBI, who has made a business of approaching likely candidates and grooming them to carry out terror attacks. In September 2011, another FBI terror operation targeting the Capitol was “foiled,” involving a patsy who believed he was to take part in an assault that would involve multiple gunmen and even a drone bomber provided to him by the FBI.

    And perhaps the most dubious of all, was the December 2010 Portland “Christmas Tree Bomber,” who was also approached by the FBI, provided demolition training, including a demonstration with live explosives performed in a Lincoln County park, and a van within which the patsy believed his handlers had provided him a bomb. The van with the inert device was parked next to a crowded Christmas tree lighting ceremony where the patsy attempted to detonate it remotely before being arrested by FBI agents.

    It would later turn out that Portland had heroically withdrew from the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, (JTTF), with the operation then being carried out behind Portland Mayor Sam Adam’s back only for its conclusion to humiliatingly catch the mayor off guard. The city of Portland would eventually rejoin the JTTF after the fallout from the FBI’s own terror plot.

    The FBI is carrying out what is essentially a campaign of entrapment fueling what alternative news outlet Media Monarchy appropriately calls “terronoia.” And while it is true that these incidents are being used to foment a climate of fear to justify the ongoing “War on Terror,” there is a more sinister implication readers must be aware of.

    In 1993 the FBI was carrying out an identical “sting operation” in New York City. The target was the World Trade Center, the weapon of choice would be a bomb-laden van, that like the above mentioned attacks, was supposed to contain an inert device. Helping the FBI was an Egyptian informant, Emad Salem, who over the course of the investigation grew suspicious of the federal agents and began recording his phone conversations with them.

    From these recordings released by the New York Times, it turns out that the FBI switched out the inert device for real explosives at the last moment resulting in an attack that killed 6 and injured over a thousand. Despite this evidence, the 1993 bombing is still to this day attributed to “terrorists” with the FBI’s involvement muted if ever mentioned.

    The implications are of course, with the FBI’s current nationwide stable of patsies being trained, directed, and provided material support to carry out attacks the FBI then “foils,” is at any given moment, any one of these operations can be switched “live” just as in 1993. The resulting carnage can then be used to manipulate public opinion just as it was in 1993, 2001, on 7/7 in London, and in Madrid, Spain in 2004.

    The risk rises exponentially now with Israel being confirmed to be training, arming, and directing US State Department-listed terrorist organization, the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, also known as Mujahedeen e-Khalq (MEK). The US has also played an extensive role in supporting MEK who is currently carrying out a campaign of terror inside of Iran.

    This is part of a plot by the US indicated in its own policy papers, openly conspiring to provoke a war with Iran. This is best encapsulated in this often cited quote from US policy think-tank, Brookings Institution:
    “…it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be. Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.) ”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, pages 84-85.
    The same report would go on to say:
    “In a similar vein, any military operation against Iran will likely be very unpopular around the world and require the proper international context—both to ensure the logistical support the operation would require and to minimize the blowback from it. The best way to minimize international opprobrium and maximize support (however, grudging or covert) is to strike only when there is a widespread conviction that the Iranians were given but then rejected a superb offer—one so good that only a regime determined to acquire nuclear weapons and acquire them for the wrong reasons would turn it down. Under those circumstances, the United States (or Israel) could portray its operations as taken in sorrow, not anger, and at least some in the international community would conclude that the Iranians “brought it on themselves” by refusing a very good deal.”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, page 52.
    Clearly those in the West intent on striking Iran realize both the difficulty of obtaining a plausible justification, and the lack of support they have globally to carry out an attack even if they manage to find a suitable pretext. Brookings would continue throughout their report enumerating methods of provoking Iran, including conspiring to fund opposition groups to overthrow the Iranian government, crippling Iran’s economy, and funding US State Department-listed terrorist organizations (MEK) to carry deadly attacks within Iran itself. Despite these overt acts of war, and even considering an option to unilaterally conduct limited airstrikes against Iranian targets, Brookings noted there was still the strong possibility Iran would not allow itself to be sufficiently provoked:
    “It would not be inevitable that Iran would lash out violently in response to an American air campaign, but no American president should blithely assume that it would not.”
    The report continues:
    “However, because many Iranian leaders would likely be looking to emerge from the fighting in as advantageous a strategic position as possible, and because they would likely calculate that playing the victim would be their best route to that goal, they might well refrain from such retaliatory missile attacks.”
    -Brookings Institution’s 2009 “Which Path to Persia?” report, page 95.

    With this in mind, and with the 1993 World Trade Center attack as a historical precedent, it is almost a certainty that the West and Mossad are carrying out the current global wave of bombings now being blamed on Iran. This includes two failed bombings in India and Georgia, and a more recent incident in Bangkok, Thailand.

    Law enforcement officers across America may be witnessing the FBI conducting through their JTTF what they believe to be a “sting operation” that may end up being the next major terrorist attack on US soil – and the pretext for certain war with Iran.

    The fears of Portland Mayor Sam Adams were well founded, and it took an act of terror to strong-arm him and the people of Portland into capitulating to the federal JTTF program. Local law enforcement, for the safety of themselves and the people they are charged to serve and protect, would be wise to keep an eye on the FBI – apparently the most likely source from which terror plots both “foiled” and “successful” are hatched.

    Land Destroyer: Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)

    Tony Cartalucci’s articles can be read at Land Destroyer.
    Funny how this Nazi Hansuman thinks the US has no real enemies so they have to create fake ones. To follow with fake terror attacks and fake wars.

    Its all fake everyone.. The whole world loves the good ol US of A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    maybe so, but it has been shown time and time again that the FBI can only catch terrorists by encouraging them to become one and supplying the wherewithal to do so

    why do they do it? Is it to boost their own popularity by showing how effective they are at keeping the nation safe?

    or is it part of the wider picture that terrorists need to be active so that the government can keep spending vast amounts of taxpayers money on anti-terrorism?
    So you dont believe that the US has real enemies ?

    So they need to create fake ones ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HansuMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    This is what gets me.If you are in the FBI and are going to do something like this..."DON'T GET CAUGHT"

    Stupid pricks
    What's weird is, they don't try to hide how they string these retarded patsies along, supply them with everything etc- then posture as the "heroes" when they foil their own plots, which would not even otherwise exist?! The other article above, "Washington DC: FBI Foils Own Terror Plot (Again)" details several other such sensational entrapments of half-wits, including the 1993 WTC bombing, in which the FBI themselves gave their patsy a live bomb to blow up in the garage beneath WTC?!

    In 1993 the FBI was carrying out an identical “sting operation” in New York City. The target was the World Trade Center, the weapon of choice would be a bomb-laden van, that like the above mentioned attacks, was supposed to contain an inert device. Helping the FBI was an Egyptian informant, Emad Salem, who over the course of the investigation grew suspicious of the federal agents and began recording his phone conversations with them.

    From these recordings released by the New York Times, it turns out that the FBI switched out the inert device for real explosives at the last moment resulting in an attack that killed 6 and injured over a thousand. Despite this evidence, the 1993 bombing is still to this day attributed to “terrorists” with the FBI’s involvement muted if ever mentioned.
    Well they finally blew up the WTC good like on 9/11- knocked down 3 steel-frame skyscrapers with only 2 planes, fancy that!

    Yep, its all fake and you are the only one in the world that hates the USA. You and the TD Nazis are the only enemies of the good ol US of A.

    If you and the TD Nazis where rich enough, you could become the first real enemy of the US in the 21st century.

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    ^&^^&^^^ I wondered what was taking our zealous young hasbarat socal so long to storm the thread, wielding his big scary "NAZIS!" flamethrower,

    I see you're quite the straw-man practitioner as well...

    USA has enemies alright... traitors inside the highest levels of gov & mil who put a certain foreign nation's interests above USA's...

    it's funny how the detractors in this thread, only fight with vacuous ad-hom insults and flimsy straw man arguments, isn't it?

    No rational observations to make about the OP story fellas?

    Oh yeah I forgot, the hasbara manual advises:
    Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message.
    So, honest readers at least understand your ah "contributions"; carry on fellas,

    and socal don't miss Take a look at this video!, a real hotbead of NAZIS! there,

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    [quote=HansuMan;2023287]

    USA has enemies alright...
    ooooh.. Lets here this.

    traitors inside
    External enemies.. I didn't think I had to use the modifier. So you really don't think the US has enemies. Just plain old enemies...I don't think that is realistic dear Nazi.

    the highest levels of gov & mil who put a certain foreign nation's interests above USA's...
    And what nation might that be... Israel of course.
    it's funny how the detractors in this thread, only fight with vacuous ad-hom insults and flimsy straw man arguments, isn't it?
    Basic common sense is not what any rational person would call a "strawman" argument. As for ad-hom insults..I don't think its a stretch to call someone who thinks a country of 7 million people and the 157th size in the world is conspiring to fuck up the world, a Nazi. Its the only reason Israel exists in the first place, because the Nazis kicked them out of Europe and took their land.

    Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message.
    Yeah and you are lapping up every bit of propaganda that the Arabs can throw at you. Blame Israel ! Blame Israel ! Blame Israel ! What would the krauts or Arabs do if they couldn't blame all their failures on Israeln. Hell, think that's Israels only hope..That the Arabs and krauts wont want to bomb them off the map, because then they wouldn't have anyone to bitch and moan about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    Oh dear, 'handshandy, you sound as if someone stole all your marbles and gave you a wedgie to boot.

    Time to grow up.

    so you call me stupid but have no real information or refutation of my post

    typical empty head

    time to get yourself a brain that functions

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    Yesterday, 11:20 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    Oh dear, 'handshandy, you sound as if someone stole all your marbles and gave you a wedgie to boot.
    Yesterday, 02:55 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    got his knickerbockers in a twist and his plus-fours up his crack

    oh dear, theGents can't even think of anything original any more

    brain dead

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