Thread: WALES V AUSTRALIA TONIGHT Rugby Eng v NZL tomorrow..

great night for the kiwiws....

AB's over France in rugby..again....and now in the final of the league thks to the roos thrashing of the Poms overnight...

over which night?

^ Any - take your pick.

england 23 south africa 21

well, it wasn't pretty and it wasn't a classic but a win's a win. lewsey proved his worth (again) and tom palmer had a fair debut. for my money, vickery made the difference. how we've missed him. i think he could again be the best tighthead in the world. the difference that hodgson going off made was embarrassing, too.

obviously i'm pleased with any sort of win, but it's nice to rub butch james' nose in it. not a nice man. he tried it on with me once and wouldn't take no for an answer. it got so unpleasant (he wasn't overly concerned about whether or not i was consenting) that i punched him in the mouth. i think he was surprised, but he didn't like either being turned down or being cracked in the gob by a woman. luckily his teammates got hold of him, or i would have had a real problem.

the only pity is that robinson stays. the rfu gossip is that rob andrew is only keeping him on so he has someone to carry the can when we fail miserably in 2007 rwc. andrew is the consummate politician and utterly ruthless. his reward package is £600k p a plus all the bits and pieces that go with it, so he ain't looking to make any chums.

Shame Butch retired from the game though....he was bossing it and an SA win was guaranteed.

That said...it was nice to see Vickery return triumphantly, i don't begrudge any player that whatever his nationality in the circumstances....best tight head though.....hmmmm.....not at this stage, lets let him pack into the fold first before allowing him to be the best.....

It was certainly a thriller if not pretty. I was impressed by the confidence if nothing else of young Steyn, but seriously......it really was a grade B or C SA pack and they held their own.

Originally Posted by thaigirly

i think he could again be the best tighthead in the world

women!!!...

Vickery doesn't come close to Carl Hayman.Hayman is getting better and better...he's only 27 years old, which is just a pup for a front row forward.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Vickery doesn't come close to Carl Hayman.Hayman is getting better and better...he's only 27 years old, which is just a pup for a front row forward.

hayman is a loosehead

Originally Posted by klongmaster

Originally Posted by thaigirly

i think he could again be the best tighthead in the world

women!!!...

your previous posts on this thread are just a rehash of statistics and facts, or simply a dig at others.

if you know anything about rugby, please feel free to contribute an informed opinion.

slap him again TG....

Woodcock or Omar Hasan (who is a beast) to me are in form tightheads in the game at the moment. I'm tempted to mention Adam Jones....but I feel I may lose all credibility, but he has in fact improved a lot in the last 2 years.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

slap him again TG....

I'm tempted to mention Adam Jones....but I feel I may lose all credibility, but he has in fact improved a lot in the last 2 years.

i think that's true for both adam and duncan, but i'm just a bit sceptical of their fitness. neither are 80 minute players and you can't carry fat at international level - just look at how it affecetd the quinnell brothers towards the end of their international careers.

i think the player who impresses me most in the welsh front row is gethin jenkins. quick, mobile, good with ball in hand and strong as ox, he also has unusual rugby vision for a prop. most of all, he can play tight or loose at international level. very few can do that. didn't he play a bit of league at one time? he is fairly young and has a lot to learn (technically-speaking) but he could be a force for a long time.

Originally Posted by thaigirly

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Vickery doesn't come close to Carl Hayman.Hayman is getting better and better...he's only 27 years old, which is just a pup for a front row forward.

hayman is a loosehead

Want to put 5 x doz beers on that statement?

People shouldn't comment on front row forwards,unless they have plated there......

i think gethin jenkins has plated at loosehead.
he's only about 12 years old.
should reach his prime in the next couple of decades

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by thaigirly

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Vickery doesn't come close to Carl Hayman.Hayman is getting better and better...he's only 27 years old, which is just a pup for a front row forward.

hayman is a loosehead

Want to put 5 x doz beers on that statement?

People shouldn't comment on front row forwards,unless they have plated there......

many apologies, you're quite right. i was thinking of woodcock.me and my big mouth
worse still, i was a forward (although not a prop).

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

i think gethin jenkins has plated at loosehead.
he's only about 12 years old.
should reach his prime in the next couple of decades

he's played on both sides, but i think he's mainly a tighthead, although with my recent track record, i may well be wrong. should be in his prime for 2011 rwc.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

i think gethin jenkins has plated at loosehead.
he's only about 29 years old.
should reach his prime in the next couple of decades, if current Welsh form is anything to go by

Well, I'll "plate" you around the forehead if you keep giving me a hard time for a typo...sonny.

Originally Posted by thaigirly

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

i think gethin jenkins has plated at loosehead.
he's only about 12 years old.
should reach his prime in the next couple of decades

he's played on both sides, but i think he's mainly a tighthead, although with my recent track record, i may well be wrong. should be in his prime for 2011 rwc.

the only thing Jenkins has played with is his dick.(very Welsh like...)He is filth.If he looked at playing the game,rather than the next cheap shot, he might be ok.

bladdy blah.
and thaigirly.
yes he has played in both positions, but he is a loosehead.
very much so.

sod the bloody blues.
go onto the pontypridd website.

poor bastard has been forced onto the tight.

Originally Posted by thaigirly

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

bladdy blah.
and thaigirly.
yes he has played in both positions, but he is a loosehead.
very much so.

aha. that might account for his ability to play either side. i think it's rather easier for a loosehead to play tight than the reverse.

i've just gone to the wru and the blues websites and they both show him as a tighthead. (i don't know how to do a link, sorry). i'm going back to bed.

It's easier for a tight head to move to loose...

CMn has only known the move from pram to high chair.....He is a beast of a bloke, so it should not matter much.

Gethin is a loosehead.
always was and still is.
plays at one on the loosehead, almost always including against Australia and canada and next week against NZ.
that makes him a bloody loosehehead as far as I'm concerned.

BTW.
He can't hold up the tight.

New Zealand team to play Wales on Saturday.

look a bit handy.

New Zealand: Mils Muliaina; Rico Gear, Conrad Smith, Luke McAlister, Sitiveni Sivivatu; Dan Carter, Byron Kelleher; Neemia Tialata, Anton Oliver, Carl Hayman, Keith Robinson, Ali Williams, Jerry Collins, Richie McCaw (capt), Rodney So'oialo.
Replacements: Andrew Hore, Tony Woodcock, James Ryan, Reuben Thorne, Piri Weepu, Nick Evans, Ma'a Nonu.

^Has the Taff team been anounced yet?



I feel another half century comming on.....