Thread: Of course England will win it.

Originally Posted by withnallstoke

Originally Posted by sccrhound

You were saying..........

Humble pie for breakfast. Tastes horrible.'

credit for eating it.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

players would need to get used to it.

both sides ...............

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by FailSafe

players would need to get used to it.

both sides ...............

Of course (though I believe it's been used at the professional level in the States for a while)- there are going to be complaints regardless of whether the playing field is level.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

A very mediocre engerland performance gifted a draw to a team who didn't deserve it. Win win situation rally

England were shite. Pure shite. Awful ball skills and their passing was CRAP. Half the England passes ended up in US possession. I was trying to count the US players on the pitch, cause I would have sworn there were 15 on the bloody pitch the way they swarmed England players every time they got a touch on the ball.

Only in one 20 minute spell in the second half did England look like a team with a glimmer of talent. Apart from that, shite, shite, shite.


Fair play to the US, their boys hustled the English out the game. But oh my, that goal hurts.....


...and I will re-quote roughly as I said before- England will make the whole thing as drawn out and fucking painful and protracted as is possible....

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by robuzo

By the way, in post-game interviews both Howard and Dempsey thought that the weird ball had a big part in Green's cockup, even if Green is too sportsmanlike to mention it.

I saw a clip of some physicist examining the ball- he noted that its asymetry would definitely have an effect on play (it will spin differently depending on the position it's in on the ground when it's kicked, so the ball has a kind of 'top' and 'bottom'), and that players would need to get used to it.

That's fucked up, and kind of bizarre considering it is touted as the roundest ball ever. True that both sides will have get used to it, but it adds an unwelcome element of uncertainty to the game.

^^^

It wasn't a matter of the roundness of the ball, but rather the differing positions of the patches of material from which it's comprised that would cause the issues- they aren't symmetrically aligned- if the ball is rotated on its axis and spun the larger 'WC' logo patches aren't uniformly positioned.

Fifa are going to introduce helium filled balloons for the 2014 world cup.

Robert fucking green

Meh!

Originally Posted by Moonraker

Robert fucking green

That save he made when he parried the ball point blank against the post after the American black guy had ran rings around Jamie Carragher was brilliant.

I have seen the best sportsman make rare errors even simple mistakes and it is part of being human.

It is also fvcking sad if the Poms are going to blame the result on Green as the whole team played well below their usual personal standards.

^ When I was watching the game last night it looked like your blokes were trying to play like an Italian side, particularly when they got into a scoring position with too many short, deft passes which the Yanks seemed to be always intercepting.

The English form of this sport is far and away the best and should be used to win this world cup and to try and play another style completely upset their rhythm.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by Moonraker

Robert fucking green

That save he made when he parried the ball point blank against the post after the American black guy had ran rings around Jamie Carragher was brilliant.

He did make a good save there. Carragher was hopeless against Findley, and just kept fouling him. God save England when they get up against some 1st-tier strikers.

By the way, when you have guys argued to be the best striker in world (Rooney), the swiftest wing in football (Lennon) and one of the three or four most dangerous midfield shooters (Gerrard) and still can get only one goal, something is wrong. One fuckup by the goalie shouldn't be such a big deal when your guys can score. Here's a hint for the next game- Joe Cole and Defoe. And thanks again for not putting those guys on last night. Defoe would have destroyed the US backs; Heskey won most of the balls against Onyewu but couldn't do anything with them, and while he is a big strong guy Onyewu is bigger, stronger and younger. Defoe is one of the slickest mofos in the game, and would have left Onyewu standing there with his jock around his ankles; unlike Heskey, if Defoe gets the ball in front of the goal, chances are it is going in and not straight to the keeper. Instead, Capello brought on Crouchy, a nice guy who accomplished naught. Seriously, thanks for that! Oh, and thanks for letting Lampard take some free kicks, too. From now on you can stop doing that.

Cackles silently!!!

Not making excuses...England should have won 3-1.

It is interesting to watch England players under FIFA referees, different attitudes, other EPL players seem to adapt quicker to a softer game.
I notice England players play to the whistle but others will kick the ball out if any player gets injured.
I am told last nights referee (who i thought was ok) was suspended last year for 6 weeks, what for?
I also belive there is only one English referee in the WC.

Originally Posted by patsycat

Cackles silently!!!

Says the Sweaty with no world cup team to suport

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Don't nine members of the US team play for English teams? How bad can they really be if that's the case?

Was wondering the same myself. Arent the US ranked in the worlds top 10?

Hobby team they are not.

^ currently 14?

But, the US didn't look too good; they'll need to improve to get through the group and progress into deeper waters.

Maybe you could have a Columbian drug lord machine gun him in the douchebag club.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

But, the US didn't look too good; they'll need to improve to get through the group and progress into deeper waters.

No they wont, weak group and a good team. Draw was a nice start.

^ Don't fall into the English complacency trap...

Originally Posted by robuzo

By the way, in post-game interviews both Howard and Dempsey thought that the weird ball had a big part in Green's cockup, even if Green is too sportsmanlike to mention it.

Of course . . the ball. Green would be a total fool to blame the ball . . . it was travelling at a pedestrian pace and he duffed it, plain and simple

Originally Posted by FailSafe

(it will spin differently depending on the position it's in on the ground when it's kicked,

I read an article by Adidas that states the opposite . . . it is the roundest and most symmetrical ball ever . . . but one has to take the high altitude into account which makes the ball fly up to 5% faster

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Of course (though I believe it's been used at the professional level in the States for a while)- there are going to be complaints regardless of whether the playing field is level.

The ball has been used in international competitions since mid 2009, so it should be no surprise to anyone . . . bar the whiners. Oh, yes, we're talking about the English

Originally Posted by robuzo

That's fucked up, and kind of bizarre considering it is touted as the roundest ball ever. True that both sides will have get used to it, but it adds an unwelcome element of uncertainty to the game.

It has been used for close to a year

Originally Posted by Bower

It is interesting to watch England players under FIFA referees, different attitudes, other EPL players seem to adapt quicker to a softer game.

Soft? That old chestnut about how physical the 'English' game is . . . the majority of which players are foreign . . . You've never watched Italian, Brazilian or German football, have you?

Originally Posted by Bower

I also belive there is only one English referee in the WC.

That's one too many going by previous accounts . . . remember Mr Three Yellows?

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

The English form of this sport is far and away the best and should be used to win this world cup and to try and play another style completely upset their rhythm.

It's been the same for years. There must be some reason for it, but fucked if I know. Maybe it's a reaction to the Graham Turnip era where it was route One footy all the way?

Originally Posted by robuzo

By the way, when you have guys argued to be the best striker in world (Rooney), the swiftest wing in football (Lennon) and one of the three or four most dangerous midfield shooters (Gerrard) and still can get only one goal, something is wrong. One fuckup by the goalie shouldn't be such a big deal when your guys can score. Here's a hint for the next game- Joe Cole and Defoe. And thanks again for not putting those guys on last night. Defoe would have destroyed the US backs; Heskey won most of the balls against Onyewu but couldn't do anything with them, and while he is a big strong guy Onyewu is bigger, stronger and younger. Defoe is one of the slickest mofos in the game, and would have left Onyewu standing there with his jock around his ankles; unlike Heskey, if Defoe gets the ball in front of the goal, chances are it is going in and not straight to the keeper. Instead, Capello brought on Crouchy, a nice guy who accomplished naught. Seriously, thanks for that! Oh, and thanks for letting Lampard take some free kicks, too. From now on you can stop doing that.

Good points there. Nice to see a civilised Merkin who understands the beautiful game.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Nice to see a civilised Merkin who understands the beautiful game

Fooking hell mate............beautiful????????

Rugby is the beautiful game and what was really beautiful watching the Wallabies backline give it to the Poms yesterday.