Thread: NFL 2017: draft, deals, and season

Originally Posted by redhaze

the guy sucks.

last year he had the 6th lowest interception percentage of any QB in the NFL.

for his career he's:

thrown for over 12,000 yards and 72 TDs
run for 2300 yards and 13 TDs

yeah, he sucks.

A look at Colin Kaepernick?s 2016 stats may make your head spin | Touchdown Wire

He threw for four yards against the Bears last season. In a game that he did not leave due to injury. Worst performance by any quarterback I have seen in my life.

His team is in the division I follow, I've watched every game of Kaepernick's career. The guy looked awful last year. His stats are padded because seventy five percent of his throws were three yard screens. He averaged just over 7 yards a throw. He was playing in a system that was tailored to his game (Gabbert was a scrambler too, so it was a seamless transition between the two of them), and he still looked completely ineffectual week after week. Nobody who watched these games could seriously argue otherwise.

Garbage time stats on a crappy team is where the padding is at. Kap went 1-10 as a starter. A high performing QB will win more than one game on any team.

That and he's half black so he probably can't swim

red, your bias is showing...

with adequate talent around him kaep is an above avg QB in the NFL. top 20 for starters or so. he needs a decent oline and at least 2 legit targets to work with. has he had that the past 2 seasons? not so much. niners oline was arguably the worst in football. best wr theyve had is torrey smith who can do nothing but run in a straight line.

as ray said, kaep is hands down better than at least 26-27 of the backups in the lg. he wont thrive in some systems, tho, so not all teams will be able to utilize him.

you dont think the packers in '15 gameplanned for him after seeing him play for 2 seasons? they lost in lambeau. you dont think seattle gameplanned for him in the nfc chip? they were 2 inches from losing at home the same yr. a qb cannot do it alone...name one who does. rodgers looked like crap last season when his guys were hurt. brady looked like crap 2 seasons ago when guys were hurt. and those guys play in 2 of the best systems/organizations in the lg. the niners? haha...they have no system or organization.

Originally Posted by redhaze

Teams don't give a shit about political points, put him in a liberal city. If he wins games, all his stupidity gets washed away like that. But he hasn't won in a long time, and that's the rub.

oh, red.

probably the best nfl writer out there these days. he might not agree with you:

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/13...-to-kaepernick

Try harder.

from samsara's link...

He's traveling around the country, giving to community programs to better our society, yet nobody seems interested in him. He's in the prime of his career, has very tangible tools that every team could use, has rarely had a teammate or coach speak badly of his character, yet he has no contract. I will add that the player hasn’t publicly spoken much about why he's unsigned, or what he wants, but seems to be content handing out business suits to parolees and donating money to social causes throughout America.

If you explained this scenario to someone from say ... Australia, they’d be wondering what the heck this guy must have done. Did he assault someone? No. Did he steal money from a teammate? No. Did he say he hates the military? Not that I recall. Did he say all police are bad people or racists? Nope, he didn’t do that either. Well, what could this man have done to warrant a lack of interest from nearly every NFL team?

He kneeled. That’s pretty much all he did. He kneeled down during the playing of our country’s national anthem, and it offended too many for the NFL to bear.

On another note, the U.S. government planned 9.11

Also, Tim Tebow is being blackballed for praying (that also took place on one knee....coincidence?)

Originally Posted by samsara

probably the best nfl writer out there these days.

for stats based analysis, i think cian fahey is among the best...

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^i agree. but in terms of the macro view sage nails it time and time again.

red, thats not much of a response. almost bb esque...

I already responded. The ideas have been well established, I've read them many times. Its a dumb conspiracy theory.

If even one owner thought Kaepernick was a winner, he'd be on a team . Maybe he still will make a team. It won't be because of some half baked conspiracy theory one way or the other.

Question Sam: Tim Tebow. Blackballed or not good enough?

tebow is not even remotely in the same echelon as kaep. come on. tebow cannot throw a football 10 yards with any accuracy.

as training camp starts, there are ~120 QBs on NFL rosters...and somehow colin kaepernick isn't among them.

IMO he's better than most QB 1s...and there's really no doubt that he's definitely better than nearly every QB2...and there is no denying that he's better than anyone else wearing a red jersey in camp....but somehow colin kaepernick isn't in training camp.

end of story, red.

the nfl is about MONEY, not winning. winning is a nice secondary bonus if/when it happens.

You're arguing that winning and money aren't connected.

Try harder.

Originally Posted by redhaze

You're arguing that winning and money aren't connected.

You just posted a gif of a black guy who clearly appears to be high.

Think his kids can swim Ray?

So how many franchises win? How many are worth ten figures?

Game over.

A franchise is a brand. Owners are a brotherhood. You don't fuck with either by signing kaep. Has absolutely nothing to do with talent or winning on any level.

Niners were more than happy to part company with him... Planning for the future. Enough of this, other side of the bay Derick Carr, and the Beast, its gonna be fun from game one. Del Rio as head coach does not hurt.

Because of the cap hit...

Yes, raiders are finally a true contender. It's been a long fifteen years lol

^
they've got a touch schedule this season.

I'll follow the Raiders this year as my AFC team.

An article on Seattle's Eddie Lacy and awful O-line by the numbers.

Numbers explain why Eddie Lacy was the RB Seattle Seahawks targeted - Seattle Seahawks Blog- ESPN

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

An article on Seattle's Eddie Lacy and awful O-line by the numbers.

Originally Posted by samsara

niners oline was arguably the worst in football.

according to this article, the stats back you both up....the 49ers' offensive line was ranked 28th and the seahawks' was 32nd.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...es-this-season


it's amazing either team got anything done on offense.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

An article on Seattle's Eddie Lacy and awful O-line by the numbers.

Originally Posted by samsara

niners oline was arguably the worst in football.

according to this article, the stats back you both up....the 49ers' offensive line was ranked 28th and the seahawks' was 32nd.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...es-this-season


it's amazing either team got anything done on offense.

As for Seattle, They drafted an O-lineman, and shifted some people around from left to right side and vice-versa. But the O-line is still rated at the bottom of the league or within 1 or 2 places at the bottom as of now.

There's talk about Eddie Lacey, and he does get a good amount of yards after contact and attempted tackles, but if the O-line sucks again Lacey won't be that effective.

Last year Seattle had a very weak run-game.