Thread: World Cup 2014

Kroos was immense again - he really looks like the complete midfielder.

England should appoint a German manager.

I can see Germany ripping Argentina's defence to shreds also, if they beat the Dutch

If the Argentina game goes to penalties, we will have a classic Euro final.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

I just know enough to not be taken in by FB's attempts to paint the failed NASL as top class league that attracted World Class players in their prime.

Well Miroslav didn't get the memo he was supposed to be well past his prime once he entered his 30's as he's only scored 5 goals in the W/C since then, and now at 36 he eclipsed all comers..Hmmm...

BTW one of those goals in this cup evened Germany with Ghana to get them where they are now, based on the play of Germany so far it seems the US really was in the group of death and it really elevates their world wide status to everyone but maybe the worst in denial, critics.

It's impossible for you or anyone to make such a blanket statement about 30 something players as most have the seasoning then that they lacked in their youth with work smarter not harder attitudes. They know when and where to use their energies to make them count the most instead of like when they were in their 20's running around with testosterone to spare but with less plan & method behind what they do..

I can go on all day pointing out similar examples in all forms of sports but this conversation is about this one and I can still do it,I'm just tired of it.. For the record though, I never touted the NASL as a top class league, so if that was your incorrect impression it's no wonder you've been so confused at the discussion..

Our own goalie Tim Howard has also put your premise to shame since he's 35 too and has just played the game of his career but also is still one of the top, maybe 5 keepers in the world right now as many rank him, I feel he has at least another W/C in him, unless someone really outstanding comes along, his leadership and experience are going to be tough to top.

I just don't get it why you don't realize that it's nonsense to make such statements when there is so much evidence to the contrary and it's not even difficult to find. So many factors come into play regarding a players prime time of play that it is senseless to make such presumptuous comments..

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Well Miroslav didn't get the memo

Now you are just being silly. we are talking about the NASL.

As for the debate about over 30's athletes and age is a very different kettle of fish now compared with the 1970's/80's.

All the European players that went to the NASL had been discarded as International footballers by their countries and many let go by their clubs.

But keep on keeping on...... you are just making your self look even less knowledgable than before.

To try and drag current trends into a debate about something years ago just shows you have no case for the actual discussion.

And yes there were players even in those days that played at the highest level into their 30's, but none of them took the step down to play in the NASl..... because it clearly wasn't the highest level, players with ambitions in the game just didn't go there..... what would that achieve?...nothing because the league was nothing.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You continue to prove that you know jack shit about the beautiful game.

Yeah I agree I know jack shit about the beautiful game but I do know a hell of lot about soccer . Also proved it once again calling the game today even though it's certain no one could predict it to be that much of a schooling by Germany.

They even tried not to score more goals in the second half and Brazil insisted they do it anyway by giving them chances they couldn't pass up, unless they intentionally kicked the ball past the touch line which I believe they actually did on that last one on one with the keeper BTW. It was an easy goal chance and IMO it was obvious Germany missed it intentionally, and very sporting of them too as goal difference does not matter at this stage and this was already more than an embarrassment for Brazil, no need to rub it in..

It was the equivalent of kicking the ball out of bounds for the opposition when they have an injury and need the trainer, Brazil's team was mortally injured and desperately needed the trainer so Germany kicked it out for them.

I said that missing Neymar and Silva on both ends was going to be a pivotal loss to the team and guess what?? Certainly I know nothing about the game .. I also said that Brazil looked flat in spite of them continuing to slide by and they'd be beaten up after the last over time win and well.............

I said something similar about Argentina and tomorrow we'll see if they get a similar treatment from the Dutch and unless they come out suddenly with a new attitude and approach it may be another game similar to today's I predict..

Today even England could have beat Brazil, but certainly any team in our initial group could have based on the games with Germany in that group.

What really pissed me off was Germany's lack of motivation to prevent the Brazilian goal they were obviously resigned well before it was scored based on the lack of urgency in the pace of the defenders to get back to help. Germany's keeper earned the shout out and they let him down and he wasn't happy about it either, that was his equivalent to a hat trick, and their thinking was "we got the win regardless" I call BS!

Originally Posted by Bobcock

As for the debate about over 30's athletes and age is a very different kettle of fish now compared with the 1970's/80's.

No it's not, it's all f'ing relative, that's what escapes you. Dino Zoff was 40 in 84 when he was a pivotal part of Italy winning the WC. To quote Einstein, "everything is relative"..

Originally Posted by Bobcock

you are just making your self look even less knowledgable than before.

You know what? I could give a f'cking toss, so far there's no one here capable of judging my soccer knowledge in site of their egos telling them they can. So far there's nothing but side liners making ignorant predictions and nonsensical trolling remarks so when they measure up maybe, maybe I'll respect what is posted and give a crap about how they determine my knowledge but it's pretty certain I'll die before that happens..

Originally Posted by Bobcock

To try and drag current trends into a debate about something years ago just shows you have no case for the actual discussion.

I've shown many past examples too, you just keep on ignoring them which says more about your lack of understanding of the sport than it does mine..

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

[I said that missing Neymar and Silva on both ends was going to be a pivotal loss to the team and guess what??

Congratulations on winning the "I read what every other mofo on the internet said about the game" award.

Give us a score prediction for tonights semi (including EXTRA TIME and/or penalties if you think they will be needed).

I'm anticipating a dour game separated by the odd normal time goal, probably to Argentina.

And at least five dives by Robben.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

but it's pretty certain I'll die before that happens..

I won't say the predictable.

Anyway I'm done with your silly attempts to provide the NASL credibility, you have failed..... and I'm now bored of you.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Congratulations on winning the "I read what every other mofo on the internet said about the game" award.

Yeah, stating the bleedin obvious and then crowing about being right.

How utterly pathetic.

Originally Posted by chassamui

If the Argentina game goes to penalties,

yes, Holland - Germany.

Brazil,, cry me a river. They never did impress. Same same Argentina. Messi is gonna be all fired up tho to bring some face back to the south Americanos.

Originally Posted by chassamui

It is only with the advent of science, diet and contemporary understanding of athletic performance, that sportsmen have been able to effectively extend their careers at the top level.

And yoga. Most footballers that get asked what the secret to their longevity is, give yoga as the answer. Not just for women and hippies apparently. Who knew.

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Originally Posted by chassamui

If the Argentina game goes to penalties,

yes, Holland - Germany.

Brazil,, cry me a river. They never did impress. Same same Argentina. Messi is gonna be all fired up tho to bring some face back to the south Americanos.

That will be the least of their interests. The prospect of Argentina winning it at the home of their arch-rivals will surely be motivation enough. That would be the bragging rights to end all bragging rights.

It's not going to be in Argentina until at least 2026 is it, and that's assuming they bid for it? That's 14 years of solid piss take before they even have a remote chance of getting revenge.

Thankfully psg paid 50 million for david Luiz using paypal so they are covered with buyer protection

Originally Posted by Dillinger

England should appoint a German manager.

I can see Germany ripping Argentina's defence to shreds also, if they beat the Dutch

Don't know if the Argies will roll over as the Brazilians did.
Argentina will certainly handle Germany quite easily.

...and your hypothetical, Dill. What might you guess if it is an all-European final.
I believe the Dutch would be prepared for the Germans.

Honestly, I don't believe the German are that overall strong, even thrashing the host as they did. That was a once in a life time odd fluke.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Argentina will certainly handle Germany quite easily.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Honestly, I don't believe the German are that overall strong, even thrashing the host as they did. That was a once in a life time odd fluke.

Are you trying to prove that you know less than FB?
Glad that worked for you.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Argentina will certainly handle Germany quite easily.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Honestly, I don't believe the German are that overall strong, even thrashing the host as they did. That was a once in a life time odd fluke.

Are you trying to prove that you know less than FB?
Glad that worked for you.

Germany should be favourites, but I think a lot of their performance last night was down to the absolute crapness of the opposition.

So there is some merit in what he says.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So there is some merit in what he says.

Agree.

It's hardly in the same league as FB's drivel.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

No it's not, it's all f'ing relative, that's what escapes you. Dino Zoff was 40 in 84 when he was a pivotal part of Italy winning the WC. To quote Einstein, "everything is relative"..

Talking of goalies and the NASL, I was curious about when Gordon Banks played and looked it up. Ft. Lauderdale 1978-1979. That'll be 5 years after he retired from the game after losing an eye in a car crash. Still everything is relative, as you say.......

Wife was on 50 Euros a goal last night and a trip to Munich to watch Germany in the final with a good crowd. She has Holland on the same bet (goals) tonight, so I may get some of her winnings back. I can watch Messi all day so I'm going for a 2-0 prediction to Argentina at the end of 90 minutes.

BTW FB, I didn't see your prediction of 7-1 to Germany.

Originally Posted by Troy

I was curious about when Gordon Banks played and looked it up. Ft. Lauderdale 1978-1979. That'll be 5 years after he retired from the game after losing an eye in a car crash.

Apparently his other eye was still at the peak of its powers, though.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Originally Posted by Troy

I was curious about when Gordon Banks played and looked it up. Ft. Lauderdale 1978-1979. That'll be 5 years after he retired from the game after losing an eye in a car crash.

Apparently his other eye was still at the peak of its powers, though.

^

Originally Posted by Troy

BTW FB, I didn't see your prediction of 7-1 to Germany.

Rio Ferdinand was in on it too. Says it all!

Note to Rio Ferdinand: You cannot claim to have 'called it' when your prediction that one team would win is followed by the most incredible result in World Cup history. Calling it would have been to state that Germany would inflict an unprecedented defeat on Brazil, not simply saying they would reach the final.

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