Thread: The 6 nations 2014

Originally Posted by jamiejambos

''Harpastum '' or small ball game is in no way the fore-runner of Rugby Union or you could apply that to all ball games that were played throughout the ages.

From the article references:
Sources:

1.History of South African Rugby. - Paul Dobson. 2.History of Rugby. - Wallace Reyburn. 3.World of Rugby. - John Reason and Carwyn Jones. 4.Rugby - A Way of Life. - Edited by Nigel Starmer-Smith. 5.Up Front: The Story of the New Zealand Scrum. - Graeme Barrow. 6.1953 South African Rugby Annual. 7.The New Zealand Rugby Museum Newsletter No 4( May 1990 ) - Edited by John Sinclair.

There are some famous names in rugby and rugby journalism in that list...way more than anything you claim...and I found it on my first google.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Just one word in that lengthy tome puts all your other platitude to the sword. Soccer indeed.

Read above...I posted the article verbatim...I do not use the term soccer...I think I called it Association Football in my previous post

Originally Posted by chassamui

Rugby union news, results and fixtures | Sport | The Guardian

Six Nations 2014: Six players to light up this year's championship...an interesting read.

Originally Posted by jamiejambos

You'll be waiting a long time before he does that mate.

All of five minutes

Originally Posted by chassamui

No serious author or journalist would allow it. Result = your argument is in tatters.

In the southern hemisphere soccer has been the term used for football...I don't know the author but I know his references and I have read the stories before...you asked...I found it...also more of your sox you git

Originally Posted by Bruce Bayliss

you asked

Nope

Originally Posted by chassamui

try replying to the post instead of the poster

There's a good lad

Originally Posted by Bruce Bayliss

also more of your sox you git

calm down dear, it's only a forum.

Originally Posted by Bruce Bayliss

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

link me the bit about roman time rugby

I found this article...I haven't read it in full but it is similar at the start to what I read years ago...The origins of Rugby
How did the game of Rugby begin? The popular belief is that in 1823, a pupil at Rugby school in England, William Webb Ellis, picked up the ball and ran with it during a school soccer match. The problem with this belief is that soccer did not exist at that stage either.

Are you spouting bollocks again hoping no-one will pick you up on it?

Soccer existed in Britain in the 1300's.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Soccer existed in Britain in the 1300's.

Although not called that, as the English term 'soccer' is only about 150 years old. Despite Brits not liking the term, it originated from England, not Seppostan.

Originally Posted by Bruce Bayliss

Originally Posted by jamiejambos

You'll be waiting a long time before he does that mate.

All of five minutes

No, no, no Bruce now you're really telling more porkies because the time lapse from me posting the above to you posting your long diatribe was more than an hour
plus, in fact I would estimate it at a very long time.
you would have everyone believe that the legions of Rome each sported a rugby xv? ....ie Legio 1 Germanica versus Legio V1 victrix .....venue
The Colleseum where the victrix fifteen won a great victory due to the fact that their hooker Biggus Dickus won the ball in every scum with the help of his huge appendage. You gave us the ''loose arm '' well now i'm giving you the
''third leg '' compliments of Biggus Dickus...... :welsh:

Meanwhile, back to the 2014 Six Nations

I don't particularly support any of the teams, simplistic I know but just hope to see some good rugby; I'll follow England's progress as may be in NZ when they tour there in June and hope to see one test and if possible the mid-week match v Crusaders.

These are the odds from UK's William Hill betting agency

Winner:
15/8 Wales
9/4 France
5/2 England
6/1 Ireland
40/1 Scotland
125/1 Italy

and again, more Six Nations - next weekend's fixtures

Saturday 1st February 2014
Wales v Italy 14:30
France v England 17:00

Sunday 2nd February 2014
Ireland v Scotland 15:00

^ may be a bit of value for Ireland there.

it's about the only value

i consider them to be closer to a 3/1 shot

Best value is laying Wales at circa 1/2.

has anybody worked out how to gamble from thailand?

is it possible to set up an account from a thai bank?

Australia's Sportsbet has Wales as favourites

Returns per AU$1 bet

Outright 6N Winner
Wales 3.00; England 3.25; France 3.25; Ireland 6.50; Scotland 41.00; Italy 201.00

And opening odds for Top Try Scorer has Wales' Cuthbert at #1:
Alex Cuthbert 7.50; George North 8.50; Chris Ashton 11.00; Wesley Fofana 13.00; Maxime Medard 15.00; Simon Zebo 15.00; Yoann Huget 17.00; Luke Fitzgerald 21.00; Tommy Bowe 26.00; Dave Kearney 31.00

Wales have a very good chance, but at anything shorter than 5/2 I wouldn't be interested.

France are probably about right, will be much shorter if they win their first game.

England should be pushed out a little.

Anybody fancy risking a tenner on Italy?

i'm surprised wales are favourites

radio 5 preview of the 6 nations refused to contemplate anything other than an england ...france shoot out


as usual

Wales should be more fancied than England, but France have to be favourites, Shirley.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Anybody fancy risking a tenner on Italy?

hardly a risk
it's burning money

it's a very difficult tournament to win

4 teams are very even and scotland could beat anybody on their day

italy might win 1 or 2 and i'd love them to be seriously competitive at some point in my life time....but they have zero chance of winning the requisite 4 games...nowhere near enough squad depth

^is that a no then?

How about a tenner on Scotland at 40-1?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

but France have to be favourites

you keep saying that but i don't know why

they choke hideously

it's a big ask for the french to win away against anybody
wouldn't be at all surprised if they lost both away to wales and scotland and home to england

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

How about a tenner on Scotland at 40-1?

i'm far too poor to contemplate it

i'll stick with my avatar/signature bet....lose and then flounce for 3 years

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

you keep saying that but i don't know why

I've been watching them in Europe a lot this season, they have a lot of good French players and they are winning all over the place. They also porbably have the best fixture list.

the clubs have always been great

mind you, they can't often win away either

seems to be cultural
french like their home comforts both for club and country

also dusautoir is missing

big blow