Thread: Serial Child Beater

Take his phone and give it to the cousin. Or sell it and donate the money to homeless people. Plus further punishment.

Don't think beating them till your fists hurt is the most constructive form of punishment.

Originally Posted by chassamui

It's a bit l;ike that video of coppers arresting a drunk quite forcibly. Everyone was up in arms about it until they saw the evidence of his previous behaviour on cctv cameras before the arrest.
it was not until that was released later that people could see why the police had acted in the way they did.
Incidents should not be viewed in isolation as it gives a false impression. put it in context and it begins to make sense.

With the primary difference being that this is posted from the offenders perspective telling the story of how HE reacted so there's no ambiguity, if he see's it this way it is undoubtedly significantly worse from HIS son's perspective..

Daffy......Spot on...In other words...

Originally Posted by Panda

I have no idea why DD feels compelled to come on a discussion forum and announce that he has just beaten up his juvenile son for a minor crime.
Its the second time now in a few months.
Perhaps he is looking for others to justify his actions, or perhaps its a cry for help? Who knows what lurks in the minds of domestic violence perpetrators who assault other family members less able to defend themselves.

Tough guy beats up son. How old is the kid? 13, 14, 15 years old?
Something any normal father would be deeply ashamed of instead of announcing it on an internet forum with the justification that it was punishment for a minor theft and made him feel good.

Quite obviously a blatant case of bullying if true.

The excuse offered by some that one can loose their temper and go out of control just ain't true in these domestic violence situations.
I've seen some of these so called tough guys in bars that suddenly gain a lot of self control when faced with much tougher opponent. They pick their marks and only loose control when they are sure they wont get a flogging themselves for their little psycho act.

What the kid did was wrong. Kids do a lot of wrong things growing up in order to know where the boundaries in life are. What DD did beating up his own kid is stepping outside those boundaries of acceptable behaviour generally judged by society. As an adult, DD must take full responsibility for his actions and be judged by his peers if he wants to put his case in a public forum. The kid certainly doest have that same opportunity to put his own case here in this forum as he would in a court of law. So we are really only getting one side of the story, and that is coming from someone who has a very high degree of influence over his peers as he owns the forum he is presenting his case in.

The jails in all countries are full of adults with psych issues as a result of being abused by a bullying parent. I cant see that punching the shit out of the kid and cutting him off from all further emotional ties is going to help him grow up into a better person. Chances are that its going to cause him to get into a lot more and serious trouble down the road.

You need to see a shrink rather than talking about it on your forum DD.

Spot on...... well stated....

Originally Posted by November Rain

As an adult, though, you're supposed to take responsibility for yourself and your own actions and it's considered poor form to blame others for your shortcomings. With age we're supposed to realise how hard we made it for our parents/carers & empathise with them.

Ever heard of TSD?? It's real and takes many people even decades to even understand the effects such traumas have had on their entire life, the person they are, and the relationships they cultivate. It's undeniable, it's like suggesting that a tree that grows with plenty of sunshine, water and healthy fertile soil has no advantage over the one that doesn't and eventually shrivels and dies..

It's not realistic to just dismiss the effects and minimize the results and struggles that a person has to confront their entire lives due to the abuse that was forced upon them which was buried deep in their psyche like so many other traumas people experience in life to give them the ability to deal on a daily basis regardless of whether they're adults or not... You can apply to this any of the numerous adults just now realizing how bad their childhood sexual abuse by priests or others is becoming recognized.
People so often disregard these traumas because they aren't as well understood or openly visible right in someone's face like an outward scar or even a lost limb for example but they are every bit as valid.

Have you been taking drugs DF?
If not perhaps you should.

^no, but it's certain you have and are right now if you can't see the sense in what I've said.. Heavy hallucinogens too I might add..

Originally Posted by MeMock

So a child raises themselves is that what you are saying?

No, but by a certain age they have to take responsibility for their actions. I think DD's son is 16 or so, which is certainly old enough.

Unless DD has shown or taught him that stealing is OK it is pretty weak to say that it is his fault.

However, if the kid goes out next week and beats the shit out of someone then maybe DD would have something to answer for.

There are plenty of examples of good kids from bad families and bad kids from good families and good and bad kids within the same family.

I was an unruly kid, and my father justifiably kicked the shit out of me for my worst episodes.
Looking back, I'm glad he did. And I'm looking forward to beating the living shit out my own kids.

Sorry to hear this news. I think DD is also angry that his son has brought shame on him and his family for stealing. Kids ain't easy, but neither are parents.

What does his mum/your gf think about what's happened?
Has she expressed a view?

Originally Posted by NickA

Originally Posted by MeMock

So a child raises themselves is that what you are saying?

No, but by a certain age they have to take responsibility for their actions. I think DD's son is 16 or so, which is certainly old enough.

Unless DD has shown or taught him that stealing is OK it is pretty weak to say that it is his fault.

However, if the kid goes out next week and beats the shit out of someone then maybe DD would have something to answer for.

There are plenty of examples of good kids from bad families and bad kids from good families and good and bad kids within the same family.

Which raised a very interesting question.
The kid is supposed to be 16. Lets try a hypothetical scenario. If say, a 12 year old brother stole his Dads phone, would it be OK for him to flog the hell out of the littler one until his fists and arms hurt?

I used to nick money off my Dad as an early teen, had the police visit on numourus occasians, grew out of all the nonsense by my late teens and am straight as a whistle ever since. Kids are like that growing up. Different stages n all that.

A beating is punishment, the child must know why the punishment is being given. The penalty re a flogging etc must be administered in a judicous way, not with hatred or excessive violence.
To physically assault your own flesh and blood until your arms hurt is way over the top.

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

A beating is punishment, the child must know why the punishment is being given. The penalty re a flogging etc must be administered in a judicous way, not with hatred or excessive violence.
To physically assault your own flesh and blood until your arms hurt is way over the top.

Its not just the beatings. DD has said he is finished with the Thai scum of a kid, but will continue to fund his schooling. It appears the kid is being put on the outer re a normal family relationship. Which amounts to little more than ongoing emotional and psychological torment for the kid. This kind of ongoing grudge punishment is likely to have a more adverse outcome on the kids future than the beatings. Domestic violence can take many forms apart from just psychical beatings. Seems DD is adapt at psychological torment as well as physical abuse.

seems a bit of an over reaction, screaming insults would have been more effective IMO

beating up your son is an horrible thing to do,

you do realize that one day he might beat you up,

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

....all I keep seeing here is:

Your opinions, expressed without full knowledge of the context.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

^no, but it's certain you have and are right now if you can't see the sense in what I've said.. Heavy hallucinogens too I might add..

That is just your opinion DF. Thankfully i don't have to see your kind of sense if i choose not to.
My only drugs are tobacco and the odd cold beer. It somehow seems to be enough for me to remain on a level.

so Chass, you were beat up as a kid

explains a lot about your anger issue

so tell us Chass, you seem quite the apologist

do you beat up your own kids ? maybe you could do your coming out in this thread, part of group therapy

and my younger brother is off to read PPE at a top 5 uni.

Shouldn't take long, it's only three letters.