Serial Child Beater

DaffyDuck · 27-06-2009, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I don't believe in stealing from friends and this is something he did, so I beat the fuck out of him, it aint gonna change him, made me feel better a bit, but I don't need shite people like that in my life

Yeah, that makes sense -- 'punish' a non-violent 'crime' with a completely irrational, over-violent reaction on your part 'because it makes you feel better'.

You keep talking about 'that Thai piece of shit', but from where I'm standing, you've placed yourself squarely in the 'piece of shit' position, as beating a kid until your hands and fist hurt is a far worse, and dumb-ass, offense, than a kid stealing a mobile phone.

If you have a problem with your son being Thai, then maybe you should have raised him differently -- whatever flaws he has now, fall squarely back on your failures as a parent. If you are beating him up over it now, then you are only beating up the wrong person.

The only lesson you managed to install in him is that it's perfectly okay to be psychotically violent -- well-done.

**chassamui** · 27-06-2009, 02:00 PM

It's a bit l;ike that video of coppers arresting a drunk quite forcibly. Everyone was up in arms about it until they saw the evidence of his previous behaviour on cctv cameras before the arrest.
it was not until that was released later that people could see why the police had acted in the way they did.
Incidents should not be viewed in isolation as it gives a false impression. put it in context and it begins to make sense.

**Patrick** · 27-06-2009, 02:59 PM

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maybe you should have raised him differently -- whatever flaws he has now, fall squarely back on your failures as a parent. If you are beating him up over it now, then you are only beating up the wrong person.

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I have to agree with this comment.

If a child is your flesh and blood and you were there in his formative years (or - worse - if you wern't) the responsibility for his behaviour as a teenager or adult is significantly yours.

I also have the distinct feeling that your repeated desciption of him as "a Thai piece of shit", with the clear denigration of 50% of his makeup (something over which he obviously had no control), has been conveyed to him several times over the years and is also a major component in his psycological makeup and lack of self worth or respect for others.

Patrick

**NickA** · 27-06-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick

If a child is your flesh and blood and you were there in his formative years (or - worse - if you wern't) the responsibility for his behaviour as a teenager or adult is significantly yours.

What a load of rubbish.

**Panda** · 27-06-2009, 04:51 PM

I have no idea why DD feels compelled to come on a discussion forum and announce that he has just beaten up his juvenile son for a minor crime.
Its the second time now in a few months.
Perhaps he is looking for others to justify his actions, or perhaps its a cry for help? Who knows what lurks in the minds of domestic violence perpetrators who assault other family members less able to defend themselves.

Tough guy beats up son. How old is the kid? 13, 14, 15 years old?
Something any normal father would be deeply ashamed of instead of announcing it on an internet forum with the justification that it was punishment for a minor theft and made him feel good.

Quite obviously a blatant case of bullying if true.

The excuse offered by some that one can loose their temper and go out of control just ain't true in these domestic violence situations.
I've seen some of these so called tough guys in bars that suddenly gain a lot of self control when faced with much tougher opponent. They pick their marks and only loose control when they are sure they wont get a flogging themselves for their little psycho act.

What the kid did was wrong. Kids do a lot of wrong things growing up in order to know where the boundaries in life are. What DD did beating up his own kid is stepping outside those boundaries of acceptable behaviour generally judged by society. As an adult, DD must take full responsibility for his actions and be judged by his peers if he wants to put his case in a public forum. The kid certainly doest have that same opportunity to put his own case here in this forum as he would in a court of law. So we are really only getting one side of the story, and that is coming from someone who has a very high degree of influence over his peers as he owns the forum he is presenting his case in.

The jails in all countries are full of adults with psych issues as a result of being abused by a bullying parent. I cant see that punching the shit out of the kid and cutting him off from all further emotional ties is going to help him grow up into a better person. Chances are that its going to cause him to get into a lot more and serious trouble down the road.

You need to see a shrink rather than talking about it on your forum DD.

**nedwalk** · 27-06-2009, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Panda

How old is the kid

first question, as a man i understand the emotions of frustrations with what the kid did, and i don,t live in your world so i will not pass judgement on your actions, the next problem now is how do you deal with the crises to which this point has arrived at, is the kid still at your home, is he vindictive enough to carry out some pay back, is he screaming for some sort of attention from you? do you see in him some of yourself that you don,t like?.. is it ok not to love your child?

mate i been down your road, i have no advice to give, every situation is relative to those who are there, and its so easy to give 'advice' looking from the outside in, if what you are doing is right and it works good luck, kids...who.d have em

**Rigger** · 27-06-2009, 06:15 PM

My father floged me a few times when I was a teenager and it didnt do me any harm. I wouldnt have growen into the pillar of the community I am to day with out a few beatings

**Panda** · 27-06-2009, 06:20 PM

My Dad flogged me a few times when I was a small kid, but amazingly stopped when I got bigger and stronger than him. Funny that.

**Rural Surin** · 27-06-2009, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by madjbs

Beating a child until your fists and arms hurt is just as bad as stealing a phone.

No comment...

**Loy Toy** · 27-06-2009, 06:50 PM

My father also gave me a few hidings when I was young but justified everytime. I wish sometimes he was here with me here in Thailand and to give me a clip behind the ear and due to some of the daft things I get up too!

It was my mum who we were petrified of as she would pick up the nearest thing near her and hit us or she would pinch us and twist as she did not agree with beating kids in public.

DD as your nephew is here at the moment, and I expect he is 100% pom maybe your boy is crying out for attention or more than slightly jealous.

Speak to him even though you are obviously shattered by his actions. Communication is always better than a flogging!

**Rural Surin** · 27-06-2009, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by chassamui

Since when was it a crime to care enough about your kids to ensure that they know the difference between right and wrong?
Wake up and smell the winds of change blowing backwards through our once stable society.
I bet you are a health and safety advisor or a christian? maybe both.

But such brutal and anti-social behaviour is very Christian. Contradictions abound.

**chassamui** · 27-06-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

But such brutal and anti-social behaviour is very Christian

Are you talking about the theft or the beating?

**Rural Surin** · 27-06-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I don't believe in stealing from friends and this is something he did, so I beat the fuck out of him, it aint gonna change him, made me feel better a bit, but I don't need shite people like that in my life

Yeah, that makes sense -- 'punish' a non-violent 'crime' with a completely irrational, over-violent reaction on your part 'because it makes you feel better'.

You keep talking about 'that Thai piece of shit', but from where I'm standing, you've placed yourself squarely in the 'piece of shit' position, as beating a kid until your hands and fist hurt is a far worse, and dumb-ass, offense, than a kid stealing a mobile phone.

If you have a problem with your son being Thai, then maybe you should have raised him differently -- whatever flaws he has now, fall squarely back on your failures as a parent. If you are beating him up over it now, then you are only beating up the wrong person.

The only lesson you managed to install in him is that it's perfectly okay to be psychotically violent -- well-done.

Too logical.

**dirtydog** · 27-06-2009, 07:14 PM

I would quite happily beat the shite out of him again tonight, if i could find the fuk, but its a big building, I have never apart from last night said he was Thai scum to him or anybody else, he has proved himself to be as low as Thai scum, the nephew or I think cousin is the better description is Thai and his parents are doing him proud, my son has proved he is just Thai scum.

**peterpan** · 27-06-2009, 08:32 PM

Bit harsh mate, most of the time hitting out is just a release of your own frustration.
I must admit on occasion I have been tempted to give my own girls a good belt on the bum but controlled the urge because its just displaying my own weakness.
I have given them a smack before but not over the last 2 years.

Nowdays, if they over step the boundaries I just punish them in a different way by withholding their daily school money or a our weekly trip out to a fast food place. You have to mould their behavior in some way, but for me physical beatings don't cut it.
Saying that, I think girls are easier to control, I don't know what I would do if I caught them in a serious transgression but I am pretty sure I wouldn't beat them
My 'ol man didn't beat me, Mum did with a doubled up jug cord, but I went to an all boys school that was big on corporal punishment.
6 strokes of the cane was supposed to ne the max but they would give give you six and then send you onto another teacher who would give you another 6.
Sadistic pack of bastards they were, sometimes I think of going back to Christchurch and finding out which old folks home they are in and then beating the old cvnts over the head with their own zimmer frames.

Moving on, despite the gratuitous violence at their hand I think I have turned out a fairly well adjusted person, well I was until I hit these fair shores.

**Nietzsche** · 27-06-2009, 08:59 PM

He deserved a slap, no doubt about it, but if he's genuinely sorry, I'd think about forgiving him.

We've all done daft things when we were young.

**MeMock** · 27-06-2009, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

Originally Posted by Patrick

If a child is your flesh and blood and you were there in his formative years (or - worse - if you wern't) the responsibility for his behaviour as a teenager or adult is significantly yours.

What a load of rubbish.

Are you serious NickA? Whose responsibility is it then?

**Nietzsche** · 27-06-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by MeMock

Whose responsibility is it then?

I would have thought it was their own.

**Bexar County Stud** · 27-06-2009, 09:18 PM

My Dad was abusive to me at times, so much so that it was noticed by friends and neighbors.

I don't believe anyone truly forgives for that, which is something to think about if you're a parent.

Kids make mistakes, adults make mistakes. Nobody deserves to be beaten or verbally abused for making a mistake.

**MeMock** · 27-06-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

Originally Posted by MeMock

Whose responsibility is it then?

I would have thought it was their own.

So a child raises themselves is that what you are saying?

**Nietzsche** · 27-06-2009, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by MeMock

So a child raises themselves is that what you are saying?

Hang about - you're always telling me to take responsibility for my actions & stop blaming it on my upbringing!

You can't have it both ways.

**somtamslap** · 27-06-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by MeMock

So a child raises themselves is that what you are saying?

I had a very good upbringing, but from between the ages of 13-19 I was a COCK..

Just a bit of a twat now.

Not sure the beating was such a good idea, DD, were you punching him in the head??

If he is "Thai scum" watch out for the hitman eh..

**November Rain** · 27-06-2009, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Nietzsche

Originally Posted by MeMock

So a child raises themselves is that what you are saying?

Hang about - you're always telling me to take responsibility for my actions & stop blaming it on my upbringing!

You can't have it both ways.

You can - sort of.

As a child, your parents or guardians have the responsibility of raising you & teaching you right from wrong. And they get blamed if you stray from the 'path of righteousness'

As an adult, though, you're supposed to take responsibility for yourself and your own actions and it's considered poor form to blame others for your shortcomings. With age we're supposed to realise how hard we made it for our parents/carers & empathise with them.

**Nietzsche** · 27-06-2009, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by November Rain

As an adult, though, you're supposed to take responsibility for yourself and your own actions

I'd happily take responsibility, but as I'm not accountable to anybody, it's pointless.

it's considered poor form to blame others for your shortcomings

It would it be unfair to blame for Josef Fritzl's daughter for any shortcomings she might have & there are a million other examples which we will never hear about.

People are too quick to judge others without giving a moment's consideration as to why they are like what they are.

**chassamui** · 27-06-2009, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by November Rain

With age we're supposed to realise how hard we made it for our parents/carers & empathise with them.

I used to get a thump as a kid if i stepped out of line and my parents turned out ok.

PS That new av is stunning NR.

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