The Malt Whisky Thread

[hallelujah]

Blanton's is extremely hard to come by in the states. I have a bottle here I bought few years back and haven't opened it. Blanton's is an exceptionally good tasting Bourbon.

What would you say is generally known as the best whisky in the world?

[Reg Dingle]

It has a fine nose and I think a better taste than most of the single malt scotches I had tried
I was pleasantly surprised but I thought it could be improved slightly with just a little pure cane sugar syrup just to poove it up a notch

What differentiates bourbon from proper whiskey is that it has to be made from at least 51% corn and thats where it gets its much sweeter taste than your Scotch and other whiskey.

Adding syrup to bourbon would be like adding sugar to a can of coke

[bsnub]

Adding syrup to bourbon would be like adding sugar to a can of coke

BS

True bourbon—that is, bourbon with no flavorings or sweetener—contains virtually no sugar. The USDA nutrition facts for whiskey register 0 grams of sugar in a 1.5 oz serving. For comparison’s sake, a 12 oz light beer contains about .3 grams of sugar, a six ounce glass of white wine has 1.73 grams of sugar, and a 12 oz bottle of cider contains just over 21 g of sugar.

IS THERE SUGAR IN BOURBON?

[Stumpy]

Frankly I am a tad stunned to hear that you approve of using a premium whisky to mix up cocktails Stumps

Everyone thinks ice and water are both acceptable additions for premium whiskies

I would add pure sucrose syrup to that list. It has no smell at all, unlike culinary syrup which has caramels. It impacts only the sweetness of the taste. By my books that is not a corruption of the delicate aromatic properties we are appreciating.

However I would not dream of using a single malt or a premium bourbon to make a cocktail

Firstly Loops, Woodford Reserve is not a top shelf premium bourbon. It is a descent bourbon and its about $20 in the states. In fact, it is used by many for old fashions and whiskey sours etc but many drink it neat, especially the rye version which is not Bourbon but Whiskey. We are in agreement that I would NEVER use a top shelf bourbon or whiskey to make a cocktail. The bottle I posted of Angels Envy is a top shelf and that is to be enjoyed neat even at 100 proof. occasionally I may drop in a small ice cube. depends on my mood.

While your argument about adding pure can sugar is weak, you are right in that it is a pure sugar with no flavoring but still completely changes the taste of the bourbon as distilled unless you let it all settle to the bottom but I have to believe you shook it up like a Bacardi breezer.

In the end Loops, its your bottle to do what you want with. You can add orange juice to it, pour it down the drain whatever floats your boat. I just stand that in open circles taking a bottle and adding sugar to it seems extremely odd. Most normal people pour some in a glass and add their "Mixer" of choice this way if you have a guest come over that prefers a pour of bourbon neat it will not taste like some weird cheap southern comfort girly drink.

[DrWilly]

some weird cheap southern comfort girly drink.

I think you have hit upon the crux of the matter!

[Looper]

Adding syrup to bourbon would be like adding sugar to a can of coke

I think you might be onto something there Dill. I noticed when I sipped it neat that it was almost sweet enough to drink which I do not normally find with whisky.

So I ended up only adding 8% syrup to this bad boy when I normally go 15% for a Scottish single malt.

you are right in that it is a pure sugar with no flavoring but still completely changes the taste of the bourbon

I think you are confusing aroma and taste. When you say you appreciate the taste of a whisky it is not actually the taste you appreciate but the aroma. The olfactory receptors in your nose are far more complex than the gustatory receptors on your tongue.

You are not corrupting the aroma of an expensive whisky by adding sucrose any more than when you add water. But you are certainly corrupting it by adding other cocktail ingredients.

Firstly Loops, Woodford Reserve is not a top shelf premium bourbon. It is a descent bourbon and its about $20

I fookin knew it. Thank you for the heads up Stumps. That is going in my little red book. It was the same story when we were kids. I remember buying my sis the Howard Jones album Human Lib for her birthday and 6 months later she got me the Blancmange 12" single (and not their album)

[cyrille]

It still sounds like you got much the better deal.

[dirk diggler]

Can we just rename this thread 'The Non Malt Whisky Thread'?

Looper...

... I'm angry and disappointed on so many levels.

Get some Smokehead Whisky in yer face, it's like drinking a bonfire, and at 46.6% it should help man you up a bit.

Smokehead

[Looper]

Get some Smokehead Whisky in yer face, it's like drinking a bonfire

A bottle of smokehead featured on page 6 of this thread

I like the novelty of the smoky whiskies but to me they are by far the least palatable neat and benefit more than any other kind of whisky from a sneaky liqueur conversion

and at 46.6% it should help man you up a bit.

This talk of manning up belies, I suspect, that some fellas find drinking neat whisky more of an endurance than they are letting on.

I have yet to see a single scoffing nay-sayer on this thread actually try adding just 8% sucrose syrup to a single nip of single malt and do a side by side taste test with a straight shot. Try it with a smoker and the difference will be most noticeable.

[Joe 90]

Two fingers of whisky and one finger of water.

None of that ice, coke, redbull, bucket, liqueur conversion mallarky

[DrWilly]

Two fingers of whisky and one finger of water.

None of that ice, coke, redbull, bucket, liqueur conversion mallarky

One finger would drown it, idiot. Then again I doubt you’d drink anything costing more than £8.99


per bottle.

[Stumpy]

What would you say is generally known as the best whisky in the world?

Sorry Hal. Missed this question.

Honestly I cannot fairly answer that question because it really boils down to the individual. Some say it's based on how long it was distilled, others would say who distilled it.

For me personally I find WhistlePig, Blanton's, Pappy Van Winkle to be outstanding US Whiskeys. From a Scotch point of view, I prefer Macallan 18 or a Glenmorangie 25.

Are they the best, I guess that's up to the drinker but I can say there is no Sugar needed nor ice or water to drink them.

[cyrille]

I have yet to see a single scoffing nay-sayer on this thread actually try adding just 8% sucrose syrup to a single nip of single malt and do a side by side taste test with a straight shot.

Yeah, that would be because it would be like painting a smiley face on the Mona Lisa.

[DrWilly]

Yeah, that would be because it would be like painting a smiley face on the Mona Lisa.

Kinda like Mr Bean did.

[Looper]

Yeah, that would be because it would be like painting a smiley face on the Mona Lisa.

If the thought of corrupting a top shelfer is too painful to countenance then choose a middle shelf whisky.

Pour 2 shots and add 8% sucrose syrup to one glass. Stir then mix the glasses up and try to see if you can work out from the aroma which one has been altered. You will not be able to tell and so the essential qualities that are appreciated by the edified whisky connoisseur are unaltered.

Then try sipping one then the other and tell me which one you prefer.

[Stumpy]

Pour 2 shots and add 8% sucrose syrup to one glass

Nope . Not interested Loops. I have no desire to taste test a syrupy whiskey. But again, enjoy yours but expect more Reds if you keep posting pictures from posters.

Just buy a bottle of Southern Comfort and drink up. It's cheaper and sweeter just how women like it.

[DrWilly]

Just buy a bottle of Southern Comfort and drink up. It's cheaper and sweeter just how women like it.

**shudder**

[aging one]

Originally Posted by Stumpy
Just buy a bottle of Southern Comfort and drink up. It's cheaper and sweeter just how women like it.


**shudder**

Just what I said earlier. No reason to shudder Willy Southern Comfort is right up Loops alley. Sweet and some women like it. Better than destroying a good whisky.

[DrWilly]

Better than destroying a good whisky.

100%

No reason to shudder Willy Southern Comfort is right up Loops alley.

I'm sure it is, or I would be if I didn't think this whole thread was a stupid troll. I was shuddering at the though of drinking southern comfort. It reminds me of childhood cough medicines that I was forced to neck when sick.

[Stumpy]

I was shuddering at the though of drinking southern comfort. It reminds me of childhood cough medicines that I was forced to neck when sick.

Exactly it's like Robitussin. Smells like cough syrup, sweet and cheap.

[bsnub]

Exactly it's like Robitussin. Smells like cough syrup, sweet and cheap.

Any beverage that originates in the south is most likely sugar laden. On a business trip to Georgia, the client catered lunch, they were adamant about the "southern sweet tea". It was so sugary, I thought I would develop diabetes on the spot.

No thanks, and I only drink my whiskey neat.

[Troy]

Perhaps looper should try the whiskies matured in sherry casks to give the flavour he's after...for example, Glenfarclas 15 year-old, or, if you can afford it, Glendronach Parliament.

...and this is the Whisky thread snubby...

[bsnub]

...and this is the Whisky thread snubby...

Full well know that, and the comment was made in reference to someone who posted about Southern comfort, which is a Whisky/Whiskey liqueur. Something I do not drink.

[DrWilly]

Perhaps looper should try the whiskies matured in sherry casks to give the flavour he's after...for example, Glenfarclas 15 year-old, or, if you can afford it, Glendronach Parliament.

...and this is the Whisky thread snubby...

Actually, it’s not.

Destroyign a whiskey thread more appropriate

[Stumpy]

As I posted earlier, ol Loopers can do whatever he wants with his bottle but he should expect to be abused for doing what he does.

Maybe Loopers should start a liqueur or sugary/syrup spirit thread and he can post all of his concoctions and silly doings there.