Thread: Yingluck Cabinet - 'No reds in new Cabinet'

Originally Posted by robuzo

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Sorry, but I searched all Japanese media and i didn't see any mention of the Japanese government not liking the coup.

You searched "all Japanese media"? Did you use a translator? You mean Japanese media in English, right? Start here, idiot (Ministry of Foreign Affairs): MOFA: Statement by Mr. Taro Aso, Minister for Foreign Affairs, on the Coup d'Etat in Thailand
"It is regrettable that "Council for Democratic Administration Reform," headed by Army Commander in Chief General Sonthi Boonyaratglin, forcibly seized control of the governing functions of Thailand yesterday. The Government of Japan is paying close attention with serious concern to the development of the situation."

Do you recall reactions by other governments to the coup? What the US said? Australia? EU?

Learning Japanese might be a better way to spend your time than functioning as reasoning-impaired newsbot.

Maybe, but I was taking the piss....

A bit of irony for you...

Still waiting for DrB to jump on you...

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Ah the real reason for your interest emerges DrB. It is just yet another opportunity to have a go at me.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Yeah, so I added my embellishment to proceedings, so what?

That's the real reason. Your embellishments. I wanted you to finally admit you embellish your "reports" and at last you did just that. I and others have known for a long time that you "embellish" and that your strident "neutrality" was nothing more than a lie, now everybody who reads these threads knows just that, and they know not because I accuse you of embellishment but because you blatantly admit it.

Your childish paranoia is shameful. I have no interest in just "having a go" at you. If I wanted to do that I wouldn't even bother including your posts in my replies. I wanted to expose you as a liar and a fraud because I despise liars and frauds like you, Thaihome, and Buksida, nothing more than that.

Wow! Lost it much DrB?

I embellished my post, not the news, you do understand the difference, right?....jeez, you are on the edge....

If you despise liars, do you suffer from self-loathing?

"Childish paranoia" . A year of never-ending, week-in, week-out, attacks by you, at me. It isn't paranoia, childish or otherwise, just a statement of fact. Often in the past it was every day.

You never, ever attack people such as Calgary, Nostromo and others of the Thaksin fan-club, even though they post the most ridiculous rubbish on a daily basis, full of stuff so far removed from reality as to be utterly bizarre. Some of it is lies too!!!!! In other words, you only attack those who disagree with you and have the *temerity* to challenge your vacuous, insipid, hate-filled claptrap.

The evidence is here for all to see.

The *only* people you attack in the news are me, Buksida and TH. But we are the liars and frauds? Don't think so, but keep believing it if it makes you feel better and confirms your deluded, bitter existence. Gotta hate someone, right DrB? Purge the inner demons....Ahhh, catharsis....

Really, DrB, you couldn't make this up....you expose yourself as a liar by your above post.

So, do you suffer from self-loathing?

Cool down, man. You are facing this because you made wrong decisions earlier.

Calling anyone who disagrees with you as Thaksin fan club will not get you anywhere.

You have a mission, I see. Should you really think what this is about, all sides?

Originally Posted by robuzo

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by robuzo

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Sorry, but I searched all Japanese media and i didn't see any mention of the Japanese government not liking the coup.

You searched "all Japanese media"? Did you use a translator? You mean Japanese media in English, right? Start here, idiot (Ministry of Foreign Affairs): MOFA: Statement by Mr. Taro Aso, Minister for Foreign Affairs, on the Coup d'Etat in Thailand
"It is regrettable that "Council for Democratic Administration Reform," headed by Army Commander in Chief General Sonthi Boonyaratglin, forcibly seized control of the governing functions of Thailand yesterday. The Government of Japan is paying close attention with serious concern to the development of the situation."

Do you recall reactions by other governments to the coup? What the US said? Australia? EU?

Learning Japanese might be a better way to spend your time than functioning as reasoning-impaired newsbot.

Maybe, but I was taking the piss....

A bit of irony for you...

Still waiting for DrB to jump on you...

Did you start "taking the piss" before or after you typed ”Sorry, but I searched all Japanese media. . ."? Maybe as an American I really am irony-challenged.

Listen, I think I may have made this recommendation to you before, but having shat in your hat does not mean you have to put it on your head.

Yes, I think irony challenged may be the correct response here....think about it....the "humour" was fairly obvious. I was echoing your earlier post to me, the one where you had a problem with me saying Thaksin was "mouthing off" in the Japanese media (and indeed he was, which you have yet to acknowledge).

Cheers.

Eh, having read it ENTIRELY, what are the lies you refer to
"You never, ever attack people such as Calgary, Nostromo and others of the Thaksin fan-club, even though they post the most ridiculous rubbish on a daily basis, full of stuff so far removed from reality as to be utterly bizarre. Some of it is lies too!!!!!"

Originally Posted by nostromo

Cool down, man. You are facing this because you made wrong decisions earlier.

Calling anyone who disagrees with you as Thaksin fan club will not get you anywhere.

You have a mission, I see. Should you really think what this is about, all sides?

I made the wrong decisions? When? Where?

I call people the Thaksin fan-club, because there are obviously Thaksin supporters here.

I have a mission? To do what? To what ends? For what purpose?

Just asking.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by nostromo

Cool down, man. You are facing this because you made wrong decisions earlier.

Calling anyone who disagrees with you as Thaksin fan club will not get you anywhere.

You have a mission, I see. Should you really think what this is about, all sides?

I made the wrong decisions? When? Where?

I call people the Thaksin fan-club, because there are obviously Thaksin supporters here.

I have a mission? To do what? To what ends? For what purpose?

Just asking.

In your condition, you dont see or hear the signals that are right.

Please calm down. Let all your thoughts go away. Then you are all right.

Thaksin supporters might be your friends, for democracy. Oh you did not want that? Fuck

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

I made the wrong decisions? When? Where?

Dementia is no excuse.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

the 'You're a Yellow!' 'You're a Red!' crap gets pretty ridiculous at times- it's possible to disagree on a particular issue without agreeing with (or disparaging) a particular party's entire ideology.

Indeed a fair point. Or for that matter, it is quite possible to be sympathetic to the Reds without being a pal of Thaksin, or even 'yellow' without liking the Dem's. Lets allow for the fact that there has been elements of bombast from several quarters shall we?

I daresay the poster that said every Thai and farang supporter of the Reds should be killed was exaggerating (or mentally unsound), and accusations of all Democrat supporters being Fascists are similarly bombastic.


Thailands 'loyal opposition' has not taken long to show it's true stripes though, has it? Japan is Thailands largest foreign investor, so where is the upside in pulling them into a domestic spat over Thaksin? Apart from the fact that he is not travelling on a Thai passport, and the 'pro Thaksin' camp is now the lawful government of Thailand after a resounding democratic victory, there is no international warrant for his arrest.

It seems the loyal Democrats are quite content to continue damaging Thailand's international standing and reputation even while in opposition. Where does such "loyalty" emanate from? Sour grapes makes poor whine.

Jatuporn to waiver immunity and face lese majeste charge

BREAKINGNEWS »

Published on August 17, 2011


Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Promphan on Wednesday said he would not invoke his parliamentary immunity after acknowledging offence against the monarchy in connection with his April 2 speech at the red-shirt rally.

Jatuporn said he would report to the Department of Special Investion and sign a consent form to surrender himself tor the legal proceedings without invokving his immunity.

He would also notify the House speaker about his intent not to use the immunity as shield from prosecution.


The Nation

From Twitter today:


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MCOT_Eng Nine Pheu Thai MPs including Jatuporn, Natthawut, Weng say they'll waive parliamentary immunity, fight... fb.me/G1i6QCfh

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Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by nostromo

Calling anyone who disagrees with you as Thaksin fan club will not get you anywhere.

Nor will calling anyone who disagrees with you a PAD-supporter (not necessarily referring to you personally, but it happens a lot on TD)- if it works one way, it's got to work both ways- the 'You're a Yellow!' 'You're a Red!' crap gets pretty ridiculous at times- it's possible to disagree on a particular issue without agreeing with (or disparaging) a particular party's entire ideology.

I agree with that. Why some people, and me personally I can not speak for others, feel inclined to emphasize some things, might have something to do with british virtue of doing it for the underdog. When the right is on our side. There is so heavy presence of anti-Thaksin people and the plain propaganda they say deserves opposition.

Interesting post on BP today relating to the OP.

How will Puea Thai manage the relations with the red shirts? | Asian Correspondent

Originally Posted by SteveCM

On ministers considered most disappointing, Foreign Minister Surapong Towijakchaikul came first

This little gem alone, suggests the slanted nature of this Suan Dusit Poll.

Just because the Amart is frothing at the mouth as their little Foreign Service Club is being invaded, this poll miraculously follows suit.

The glad-handers and cocktail crowd from this club of lifers is afraid this new Foreign Minister may make them touch ground - similar to what Thaksin did - with his orders to get out there and flog Thai products, especially OTOP stuff.

This new Minister also has a Foreign Trade bent to him, so it is likely these Amart sourced lifers are faced with some unpleasand duties with, heaven forbid, measurable performance standards.

Damn...it was much more fun fighting with Cambodia and chasing Thaksin.

Originally Posted by Richard S. Ehrlich

Mr. Thaksin is currently dodging a two-year prison sentence for corruption

These foreign journalists just can't get enough of aping the Amart media.

Adding the qualifier of "politically motivated sentence by a military coup based court" would be the correct statement.

I don't know who the hell this Ehrlich is, but he is obviously in the pocket of the Amart.

If you read the rest of the article, it is suffused with PADite thinking.

^^ A lot of that about Mingkwan makes sense.

I think his, quite frankly, lame performance in the censure debate against the Dem's earlier this year also didn't help. It was hyped as an opportunity to nail the Abhisit government and he was leading the charge. In the end it was rather embarrassing.

Chalerm storming out in a huff probably didn't help either. But now he's been rewarded with being in charge of the drug campaign and *cough* justice....

Chalerm in charge of justice is possibly one of the scariest things to have come about so far from this new government. A fox in charge of the chicken coup is something that springs to mind...

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/poli...focus-on-trade

Surapong promises to put focus on trade

• Published: 18/08/2011 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: News

Surapong Towijakchaikul said yesterday he agreed to become foreign minister to help the nation put greater emphasis on trade with other countries.

He made his comments at the start of his first day at the Foreign Ministry to an army of reporters. The media, members of the public and the Democrat Party have been critical of Mr Surapong, saying he was appointed to the position to help ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra return to the country and return his diplomatic passport to help facilitate the fugitive former premier's globetrotting.

But Mr Surapong insisted yesterday he had never talked to ministry executives about returning Thaksin's diplomatic passport.

He said the Yingluck Shinawatra government had no such policy and that the government had assigned him to help build peace and engage in constructive dialogue with neighbouring countries such as Cambodia.

"It is really a tough job, but I'm not worried," he said. "Although I am seen as the worst minister [in the government], I will do my best."

Mr Surapong brought a statue replica of revered monk Phra Puttajarn To Phromrangsi in meditation and a picture of King Chulalongkorn (Rama V) with him to the ministry yesterday. Shortly after arriving at work, the ministry's senior staff briefed him on his duties and work.

Mr Surapong said he would meet with ministry officials today to discuss the Thai-Cambodian problem, including the prior government's revocation of the 2001 Memorandum of Understanding on the overlapping maritime area in the Gulf of Thailand as proposed by former foreign minister Kasit Piromya and Thailand's withdrawal from the World Heritage Convention.

He plans to submit recommendations from the meeting to the cabinet for consideration next week, he said.

The Pheu Thai MP from Chiang Mai denied he was appointed foreign minister because Thaksin supported him.

He said he was appointed to the post after receiving full backing from Prime Minister Yingluck and the party's executive committee.

They saw he had experience in trade and Ms Yingluck was especially interested in foreign trade policy, he said.

Mr Surapong also insisted it had not been a government priority to help Thaksin get a visa to enter Japan but the former premier was invited by the Japanese private sector to speak there.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Chalerm in charge of justice is possibly one of the scariest things to have come about so far from this new government.

"Chalerm" and "justice" two words that shouldn't be in a sentence that doesn't include one or another form of the word "escape."

Originally Posted by sabang

The media is predictably obsessing over Thaksin, a figure whom Interpol were never the least interested in pursuing.

I saw the "Nation" newspaper on a newstand screaming a hugely printed front page dealing with this Thaksin-Japan thing.

The PAD media really thinks it can maintain its' obsessive minority agenda even after dismally losing an election.

The electorate knew full-well the paranoid anti-Thakisn stuff perpetrated by this tyranical ruling minority and turfed them out.

But they think they can still flog this stuff.

That headline was pathetic - as if anyone cared.

Originally Posted by Bangkok Post

This is derived from the stock answer Ms Yingluck has been using in reply to practically every question she has faced, ranging from whether to grant an amnesty to former PM Thaksin Shinawatra, to solving the recurring flood problems. True, it is not a line to become wildly excited about; it's not even a catchy sound-bite. But it's not a bad one.

The worst thing that can happen to a Politician who is losing, is when the leading politician refuses to engage.

Losing Politicians need 'bite-back' in order for them to gain some traction. Abhisit found that out, and now the Amart is suffering the same plight.

In USA Politics, Romney is playing that game. He is not engaging with any of his opponents, and it drives them crazy.