Thread: Chief prosecutor's wife killed over land deal: DSI

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

to hunt down the gunman,

and the scum who paid ?

How many Cabinet Ministers in Thailand? In the UK it's 22 plus the PM.

Nice folk these hiso Thais...

It does seem to be a rather tangled web...and threatens to expose a highly profitable scam...and seemingly people who don't want exposing. Just appalling.

What are the odds the gunman is found and his employer brought to justice?

A reminder of how business is often conducted here.

A gunman will be found and dealt with to the limits of the law; likely a Burmese migrant.

We know very well that no puyai will be caught in this mess, and everyone will keep on stealing... If any are seen to be casught, then their case will go on for 20 years, 90 judges, several deaths, avoidance of cout dates, etc. Then, if a guilty verdict is handed down, an appeal will be launched and the 'defendant' will get off; zero days in prison...

Sounds like a ridiculous scenario, I know. I'll get my hat.

well it's a third country full of angry wolves, what else would you expect from such an environment.

I would like to remind you that we are in an open zoo,

^ yes and no.

It's a developing nation with aspirations, not an out and out 3rd world nation, so you see both sides; mostly the bad it seems in recent times, but one must carry hope least it be left behind.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Suchada Kleepbua had paid Bt10 million to an unnamed person to buy 1,200 rai of land from him in a deal worth Bt25 million, but she later withheld payment of the balance after the seller offered her a different plot near a mountainous area in the western province.

Errrrrrrrrrrrr.... she hands over a Bt10 million deposit without her lawyers properly checking the chenotes?

Haven't got any idea what's involved but it certainly doesn't sound like a true Thai style business dealing especially when Bt25 millions involved?

Originally Posted by sabang

Too many Westerners and 'western thinking' Thai's have been fooled by Marks pretty face and apparent urbanity (as well as Korns) into 'carte blanche' supporting the Democrats.

Yes and having spoken with a few of them, one thing's patently obvious often they aren't educated, many have moved from the South and have little or no access to any independent media reporting and certainly disposed to parroting what they have overheard from other democrat supporters on the Thai grapevine.

The present facts re the standard of living for the majority of Thais speak for themselves and corruption, neoptism etc. is rife.

Thakisin has been removed for several years, so can anyone here honestly defend the present regime and it's track record to date with hard facts?

Other than to bleet the same old excuse "nothing's getting done in Thailand because the reds are obstructing our democratic government".

It's all Thaksin's fault, we are in a state of emergency etc. etc. the list of excuses is endless? Very long on excuses and very short on any action.

I think you need to look at a map sabang...

Originally Posted by sabang

related to dodgy land deals in the south. You can bet he will be involved in this somewhere- it's his turf.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Suchada was on a bus travelling to the land plot she had bought in Suen Phueng district Ratchaburi

I find these cowardly stories rather annoying, un-named individuals and Mr S. Given that the story is simply stating that the father was selling land to the lady and his son is a cabinet minister, not the stuff of liable trials. So if the nation is that shit scared of the pair, stifling any investigations in to murder and land grabbing should be a easy for them and well worth the 10 Million the have made from it. Greed and arrogance.

To me it looks like she fell victim to a classic bait and switch scam. I can imagine that the land she was initially buying was of a type that was 100% kosher, that the seller routinely uses to get the buyers in with their deposits before switching them to the dodgy stuff.

Given that from the beginning it was obvious that she and her husband were in a position to cause a shit storm, you would have thought the obvious thing would have been to just give her the money back and told to stay well away.

I don't see anyone getting punished for this, unless PT win the next election and Mr T wants his revenge on this lot.

Do we know the Cabinet member yet?

Originally Posted by sabang

... I have to ask a Question here- is there such a thing as genuine Thai patriotism? Does it exist as such? I don't think it really exists at the top, anyway. It's just Greed and nepotism.

Other then your inexplicable anti-Democrat bias, there is very little to disagree with you.

Your question “is there such a thing as genuine Thai patriotism?” either shows how politically naïve or uselessly idealistic you are. Thai politics have been this way since 1975 and to this day is still unable to produce a political class that can gain a majority in Parliament without resorting to coalitions with the provincial strongman families and the political factions they control. These people include Newin Chidchob,Banharn Silpa-archa, Suthep Thuagsuban, Pinij Jarusombat, Snoh Thiengthong, Somsak Thepsuthin, and Suwat Liptapalop. Thaksin and his family are also in that group.

The Democrats are by no means immune from the influence of these same types of families and even Mr. Clean himself, Chuan Leekpai, is a product of the Southern factions and his problems with his brother and Suthep shows that.

There was hope within the middle class with the election of Abhisit to the party leadership and later to the PM that finally there was a party that could lead Thailand out of the factionalism that has always made it so politically unstable. But, as you are so fond of pointing out, at this point that is not happening. You can have long discussions on who benefits from that factionalism but at right now they are pointless as someday in not to distant future that will become a non issue.

So, what are we left with? As far as I can see, same old same old stuff for the time being. There are no good guys and everyone is tainted. But your rants as if the current government is worse then anything before are groundless and tedious.

TH

Originally Posted by Thaihome

The Democrats are by no means immune from the influence of these same types of families

They needed a coalition with a banned one's party to form a government.

Originally Posted by Thaihome

and even Mr. Clean himself, Chuan Leekpai

Convicted of asset concealment by the NCCC. Where does this clean and honest nonsense come from?

Did you only arrive when Thaksin was in power? It would explain a lot.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Originally Posted by Thaihome

The Democrats are by no means immune from the influence of these same types of families

They needed a coalition with a banned one's party to form a government.

Which means that before this the banned one (actually there are two) was needed by the PPP to form its government, correct?

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Originally Posted by Thaihome

and even Mr. Clean himself, Chuan Leekpai

Convicted of asset concealment by the NCCC. Where does this clean and honest nonsense come from?

Did you only arrive when Thaksin was in power? It would explain a lot.

I suppose I should have used quotes around the nickname and the irony did not come through well but it would figure you would go on the attack because of a literal reading of that line. No, around in the aftermath of the crash, so saw full well what goes on here.

But you would have attacked the post regardless so it makes no difference.


TH

^^I think you may have made a misinterpretation of what he meant by "Mr Clean"....re-read it and see if you can figure it out.

Edit, I see TH has answered you.

Yes, complex things such as irony seem to elude some...

it all comes down to the electorate, and what they do with their votes. As long as they will keep monetizing their votes, that system will continue. They also need to learn how to be politically involved beyond the simplistic "dear father" model.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

^^I think you may have made a misinterpretation of what he meant by "Mr Clean"....re-read it and see if you can figure it out. Edit, I see TH has answered you. Yes, complex things such as irony seem to elude some...

IF TH says he meant the term ironically, then I accept his word, but that's not how it reads. I won't bother going through the reasons with you SD because you''ve proven inept in this area; ironically 'Mr Fair & Unbiased' would likely understand the analysis (due to the 'contextual evidense').

Not a biggie cause we're not attempting to write masterpieces, and we know that the lad writes well.

Originally Posted by Thaihome

The Democrats are by no means immune from the influence of these same types of families and even Mr. Clean himself, Chuan Leekpai, is a product of the Southern factions and his problems with his brother and Suthep shows that.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it all comes down to the electorate, and what they do with their votes. As long as they will keep monetizing their votes, that system will continue. They also need to learn how to be politically involved beyond the simplistic "dear father" model.

You're second point is far closer to the crux, which is why:

1) The Dems are attacking education.

2) The royalist slant is being pushed to the nth degree.

Basically, the current lot understand very well how to stop this change from coming...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

^^I think you may have made a misinterpretation of what he meant by "Mr Clean"....re-read it and see if you can figure it out. Edit, I see TH has answered you. Yes, complex things such as irony seem to elude some...

IF TH says he meant the term ironically, then I accept his word, but that's not how it reads. I won't bother going through the reasons with you SD because you''ve proven inept in this area; ironically 'Mr Fair & Unbiased' would likely understand the analysis (due to the 'contextual evidense').

Not a biggie cause we're not attempting to write masterpieces, and we know that the lad writes well.

Originally Posted by Thaihome

The Democrats are by no means immune from the influence of these same types of families and even Mr. Clean himself, Chuan Leekpai, is a product of the Southern factions and his problems with his brother and Suthep shows that.

Oh yeah, I've 'proven' to be inept by whom exactly? You?

Lets just witness another fine example of your linguistic analysis shall we...

https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...ml#post1562338

And you claim I'm inept. Hell, you studied linguistics and you can't interpret the written word accurately....and you claim I'm inept....

Sweet jesus.

I'll be judged by those who have a clue BB. You don't. So such pronouncements as the above will be treated with the contempt they so richly deserve.

SD, you're making yourself look foolish... You may want to stop now.

What can I say.. another MURDER in the land of smiles. Corruption at another high level. Maybe a scam backfired on the scamee! Was promised 25mil and got shorted 15mil..this would upset some folks here..just a little you think or it was to big a story to blow up on someone elses plate.