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    Is Prayuth the best choice amid signs of Army rivalry?

    Is Prayuth the best choice amid signs of Army rivalry?

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    Is Prayuth the best choice amid signs of Army rivalry?


    By Avudh Panananda
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    Published on June 8, 2010

    The appointment of the next Army chief will be a key factor in efforts to achieve political reconciliation and thwarting any bids to transform the red-shirt opposition into an underground movement.





    Under prevailing circumstances, the military has a pivotal role in the political landscape. So it is imperative politicians and soldiers work together if democratic rule is to advance.A mere month ago General Prayuth Chan-ocha would have been a shoo-in candidate to succeed Army chief General Anupong Paochinda following the latter's mandatory retirement in September.
    After Anupong became Army chief in October 2006 he brought Prayuth as his protege. The Anupong-Prayuth team was seen as an antidote needed for a military split by animosity following the coup led by General Sonthi Boonyaratglin.


    The coup happened amid political polarisation permeating all sectors of society. Sonthi ousted the then prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra from power but failed to end the polarisation in society as well as in the military.
    Many top generals and battalion commanders saw their careers wrecked. Graduates from Pre-Cadet Class 10, which boasted leaders like Thaksin and Anupong, were mired by irreconcilable differences.
    The bomb attacks in Bangkok on New Year's eve in 2006 remain unsolved but military leaders tacitly conceded there was discontent within the rank and file.


    Faced with an Army falling apart at the seams, Anupong had no choice but to consolidate his power. Based on his partnership with Prayuth, he built a band of leaders known as the "Eastern Tigers".
    Under Anupong's power consolidation, Prayuth was anointed as an heir apparent for the position of Army commander-in-chief.
    Top generals, such as First Army Region commander Lt General Kanit Sapitak, deputy Army chief-of-staff Lt General Daopong Rattanasuwan and First Infantry Division commander Kampanat Ruddit, were lined up to dominate the Army top ranks for years to come.
    The "Eastern Tigers" proved the right medicine for post-coup discontent. But they also blocked the career path of a large number of professional soldiers not in the same clique.


    Should the "Eastern Tigers" get their way on succession plans, a military dynasty may emerge because an incumbent leader could pass his torch to a long line of designated successors.
    While the bombs in December 2006 may have sounded an alarm about post-coup discontent, the "men in black" involved in the recent unrest in Bangkok served as a reminder of possible side-effects of the dominating influence of the "Eastern Tigers".


    Out of spite or undying loyalty to Thaksin, some top generals may have helped prepare for the urban guerrilla clash as carried out by the men in black on April 10 and later days. But their common motive to get involved in plotting the unrest was probably the rise of the "Eastern Tigers".
    It should not have gone unnoticed that Prayuth was the commander in charge during the April 10 violence, in which Colonel Romklao Thuwatham of the Second Infantry Division was killed. Romklao was from the "Eastern Tigers" clique.


    None of the field commanders from Kanchanaburi, Bangkok and Lop Buri were harmed or targeted when they led security operations to end the Rajprasong rally on May 19.


    In lining up the top brass in the coming annual reshuffle, Anupong is obligated to dispel any doubts about domination by the "Eastern Tigers". Prayuth, certainly well-qualified for promotion, might not be the most suitable candidate to lead the Army at this delicate juncture if reconciliation really is the top goal.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Is being head of the army in Thailand anything to do whatsoever with defending the country?

    Or is it mostly about dealing with the Thai people, when called upon.

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    "Eastern Tigers", eh? This report takes on a slightly different dimension if you know the actual names of the Divisions these commanders have made their careers in rather than just the Divisional numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post

    Under prevailing circumstances, the military has a pivotal role in the political landscape. So it is imperative politicians and soldiers work together if democratic rule is to advance

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    If democratic rule is to advance it would be better if the military didn't have a 'pivotal role ' in the political landscape at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post

    Under prevailing circumstances, the military has a pivotal role in the political landscape. So it is imperative politicians and soldiers work together if democratic rule is to advance

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    If democratic rule is to advance it would be better if the military didn't have a 'pivotal role ' in the political landscape at all.
    Fully agree, but sadly I just can't see that happening here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post

    Fully agree, but sadly I just can't see that happening here.
    Dito. We're not talking about the kind of people who will check out gracefully and leave the keys at reception.

    Its kind of interesting that for a little while Anupong appeared to be reluctant to proceed with the recent crackdown. Once the dust began to settle however, he got the go ahead to proceed with the purchase of the much criticized blimp.

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    Weaning ourselves from the {overwhelming} consciousness and romantic notions of militarism might be a more positive direction.

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    I can see it happening.

    Once what they are there to 'defend' is no longer there anymore.

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    Yeah, things will change, obviously; these generals/privis are on borrowed time... How things will pan out thereafter is anyones guess, but the side-switching/re-alignment is gonna be chaotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    these generals/privis are on borrowed time... How things will pan out thereafter is anyones guess, but the side-switching/re-alignment is gonna be chaotic.
    The band will play on and deck chairs will be rearranged as the unsinkable vessel slowly slips into the muck on the seabed where it rightfully belongs.

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    Bangkok Post : Apichart: No interference in reshuffle


    Apichart: No interference in reshuffle



    There is no political interference in the annual reshuffle of high raking officers in the armed forces, permanent secretary for defence Gen Apichart Penkitti affirmed on Tuesday.


    Asked who would likely replace army commander-in-chief Gen Anupong Paojinda, who will retire at the end of September, Gen Apichart there are two potential candidates - deputy army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha and army chief of staff Gen Pirun Paewponsong.


    “They both are suitable to lead the army. There is no influence from the political branch in the selection of the new army boss,” Gen Apichart said.
    Asked about the lifting of the state of emergency in some provinces, as favoured by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, Gen Apichart said it ws up the cabinet, which meets today.


    He believed there would be no problem even if the red-shirts hold a 61st birthday celebration for fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, as long as they do not violate the law.

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    Thailand's generals play musical chairs - Part 1 | Asian Correspondent


    Thailand's generals play musical chairs - Part 1


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    By James Harriman

    This is the first of a two part series by Saksith Saiyasombut and myself on the upcoming military command reshuffle - this post will focus on the musical chairs below commander-in-chief, while Saksith's post will cover the contenders for the top army rank. It is also a follow-up on a post done a few weeks ago (see here).

    Previously, “Big Noy” Gen. Wit Thepsahadin Na Ayutthaya (Class 11, Asst. Commander-in-Chief) looked headed for the deputy commander-in-chief spot, taking over for Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha. Now, however, Wit may unceremoniously become Army Advisory Board chairperson, despite his childhood connections with Gen. Anupong Paochinda. The new front-runner for Prayuth’s position is “Big Doy” Gen. Theerawat Boonyapradap (Class 10, Asst. Commander-in-Chief).

    Why Theerawat and not Wit?

    According to Matichon Weekly, Theerawat’s selection could be linked to his role in past arms procurement deals. Theerawat, also a Class 10 friend of Anupong, has played a role in arms procurements ever since he served as director of the Ordnance Department (OD). Theerawat directed the OD in 2007 during the military appointed government of Gen. Surayud Chulanont. From that time forward, the Army has had serious problems with a number of procurements such as the airship, Ukranian APCs, and GT 200. In some cases these procurements have turned into news scandals, undercutting the army's professionalism and credibility. As such, Anupong may want to keep Theerawat on board to “solve” procurement issues and handle the second lot of 121 Ukranian APCs. According to Matichon Weekly, Theerawat will not have any real power to influence these issues unless he sits as deputy commander-in-chief.
    (Matichon Weekly) ผช.ผบ.ทบ. เพื่อน ตท.10 ขึ้นเป็น รอง ผบ.ทบ. ครองอัตราจอมพลก่อนเกษียณ ทั้งๆ ที่เดิมหมายจะให้ บิ๊กน้อย พล.อ.วิชญ์ เทพหัสดิน ณ อยุธยา ผช.ผบ.ทบ. น้อง ตท.11 ที่เป็นเหมือนเพื่อนรักมาตั้งแต่วัยเด็ก แต่ให้เป็นประธานที่ปรึกษา ทบ. ที่แม้อัตราจอมพลเหมือนกัน แต่ก็เป็นเก้าอี้ที่ถูกแขวน

    ต้องเข้าใจ ว่า พล.อ.อนุพงษ์ กับ พล.อ.ธีระวัฒน์ นั้น สนิทสนมกันแค่ไหน จนร่ำลือกันว่า เพื่อนคนนี้เป็นเสมือนกระเป๋าเงินส่วนตัว ที่คอยดูแลสายงานส่งกำลังบำรุง การจัดซื้ออาวุธยุทโธปกรณ์ให้มาตลอด ตั้งแต่เป็นเจ้ากรมสรรพาวุธ ทบ.

    ยิ่ง ในยามที่ ทบ. มีปัญหาเรื่องการจัดซื้ออาวุธยุทโธปกรณ์ จนกลายเป็น "ข่าวฉาว" ทั้ง เรือเหาะ ทบ. 350 ล้านบาท ที่แม้คณะกรรมการ ทบ. ตรวจรับปุ๊บ แต่ก็ส่งซ่อมปั๊บ และการซื้อรถเกราะยูเครนล็อตแรก 96 คัน เกือบ 4 พันล้านบาท ที่ยังมีปัญหาเรื่องเครื่องยนต์และเกียร์ จนบัดนี้ 3 ปีแล้วยังส่งมอบให้ ทบ. ไม่ได้

    ที่สำคัญคือ พล.อ.อนุพงษ์ ต้องการให้ พล.อ.ธีระวัฒน์ มาสานต่อการจัดซื้อรถเกราะยูเครน ล็อต 2 อีก 121 คัน เกือบ 5 พันล้านบาท และสางปัญหาต่างๆ ที่ได้ร่วมก่อกันเอาไว้ เพราะถ้าเดิมให้ พล.อ.ธีระวัฒน์ เป็นประธานที่ปรึกษา ทบ. ก็ไม่มีอำนาจหน้าที่ดูแลเรื่องเหล่านี้ แต่ในฐานะ รอง ผบ.ทบ. สามารถดูได้ทุกเรื่อง

    แต่ คนที่ช้ำใจก็คือ พล.อ.วิชญ์ ที่กลายเป็นแค่ตัวสำรอง ทั้งๆ ที่ พล.อ.ประวิตร เป็นคนลั่นวาจาไว้ก่อนแล้ว แต่ก็ถือว่าได้จอมพลก่อนเกษียณ
    Also in regards to Theerawat’s situation, Matichon Weekly says, “It’s rumored that this friend [Theerawat] is like a personal wallet.”
    ต้อง เข้าใจว่า พล.อ.อนุพงษ์ กับ พล.อ.ธีระวัฒน์ นั้น สนิทสนมกันแค่ไหน จนร่ำลือกันว่า เพื่อนคนนี้เป็นเสมือนกระเป๋าเงินส่วนตัว ที่คอยดูแลสายงานส่งกำลังบำรุง การจัดซื้ออาวุธยุทโธปกรณ์ให้มาตลอด ตั้งแต่เป็นเจ้ากรมสรรพาวุธ ทบ.
    Matichon Weekly makes a similar reference in the previous week’s edition when it says, “บิ๊กต้อย พล.อ.ธีระวัฒน์ บุญยประดับ ผช.ผบ.ทบ. เพื่อนรัก ตท.10 ถุงเงินประจำตัว'

    Is Matichon Weekly trying to insinuate some kind of “funny business” with the procurements?

    As for the vacancies left by Wit and Theerawat, Siam Intelligence reports that Army Area 1 Commander Lt. Gen. Kanit Sapitak and Area 4 Commander Lt. Gen. Pichet Wisaichorn will most likely fill these positions. Kanit is part of the dominant Queen’s Guard-Eastern Tigers clique, which includes Defense Minister Gen. Prawit Wongsuwan, Anupong, and Prayuth. Kanit also led the crackdown against the red shirts as the area commander covering Bangkok.

    According to Matichon Weekly, the generals have considered keeping Kanit as Area 1 commander to prevent rivalry for his position between the Wongthewan (King’s Guard) and Burapha Payak (Queen’s Guard) divisions. It may also be about differences of opinion between Anupong, Prayuth, Prawit, and Si Sao Thewet (Prem). Anupong has reportedly given Prawit final say on the matter. The top contender for Kanit’s replacement is “Big Dong” Maj. Gen. Udomdet Sitabutr (Dep. Commander, Area 1). Matichon Weekly says that Udomdet has the backing of Prawit and Si Sao Thewet.
    (Matichon Weekly) ในส่วนกองทัพบก พล.อ.อนุพงษ์ ร่วมพิจารณาจัดทำรายชื่อร่วมกับ พล.อ.ประยุทธ์ ส่วนใหญ่จะส่งนายทหารในสังกัดสายบูรพาพยัคฆ์ ก้าวขึ้นสู่ตำแหน่งสำคัญ และดันเพื่อร่วมรุ่น ตท.10 และ ตท.12 นั่งในตำแหน่งคุมกำลังสำคัญเกือบทั้งหมด อาทิ พล.อ.ธีระวัฒน์ บุณยะประดับ ผช.ผบ.ทบ.(ตท.10) มือจัดซื้ออาวุธยุทโธปกรณ์ ทั้งรถหุ้มกราะล้อยางจากยูเครน เครื่องตรวจและค้นหาวัตถุระเบิดทีจี 200 เรือเหาะ ขึ้นเป็น รองผบ.ทบ. โดยโยกพล.อ.วิชญ์ เทพหัสดิน ณ อยุธยา ผช.ผบ.ทบ. ไปเป็นประธานคณะที่ปรึกษา ทบ.(อัตราจอมพล) พล.อ.พิรุณ แผ้วพลสง เสธ.ทบ. เพื่อนร่วมรุ่น ตท.10 ข้ามไปเป็นรองผบ.สส. เพื่อเปิดทางให้ พล.ท.ดา ว์พงษ์ รัตนสุวรรณ รองเสธ.ทบ. (ตท.12) มือเขียนแผนปราบม็อบเสื้อแดง ขึ้นเป็นเสธ.ทบ. และดันคนสนิทในสายบูรพาพยัคฆ์ พล.ท.คณิต สาพิทักษ์ แม่ทัพภาคที่ 1 ผู้บัญชาการเหตุการณ์ปราบม็อบเสื้อแดง ขึ้นเป็น ผช.ผบ.ทบ. พร้อมกับ พล.ท.พิ เชษฐ์ วิสัยจร แม่ทัพภาคที่ 4
    Gen. Piroon Paewpolsong currently holds the remaining fifth tiger position, chief of staff. Since Saksith is covering the Piroon situation, I will just add that “Big Nuey” Lt. Gen. Dapong Rattanasuwan (Class 12, Deputy Chief of Staff) is the heir apparent for Piroon’s position. According to Matichon Weekly, Dapong has support from his class 12 friend Prayuth. In addition, Dapong’s strong hand in the May crackdown on the red shirts boosts his prospects. Importantly, if Dapong takes over the chief of staff position, he will simultaneously become Internal Security Operations Command secretary. ISOC is effectively the political arm of the military and has a budget of roughly eight billion baht, says Matichon Weekly.
    (Matichon Weekly) “อีกทั้งที่ผ่านมา พล.อ.อนุพงษ์ ก็ได้จัดโผร่วมกับ พล.อ.ประยุทธ์ แน่นอนว่า บิ๊กหนุ่ย พล.ท.ดาว์พงษ์ รัตนสุวรรณ รอง เสธ.ทบ. เพื่อน ตท.12 ที่มีผลงานจากศึกเสื้อแดง ได้เป็น เสธ.ทบ. คู่ใจ เพื่อทำงานเข้าขาและเป็น 2 เกลอ ที่จะ "เต็มที่" กับรัฐบาล ปชป. ในการสู้ศึกกับ พ.ต.ท.ทักษิณ ชินวัตร อดีตนายกรัฐมนตรี และพลพรรคเสื้อแดง เพราะ พล.ท.ดาว์พงษ์ เมื่อเป็น เสธ.ทบ. ก็จะเป็นเลขาธิการ กอ.รมน. ด้วย เพราะ กอ.รมน. ถือเป็นเครื่องมือของทหารในทางการเมืองได้ แถมมีงบประมาณกว่า 8 พันล้านบาทให้ใช้เต็มที่”
    Sources:
    The Nation, “วง ในสีเขียว”, September, 2007 http://bit.ly/bDuf2N
    Matichon Weekly, "ประยุทธ์" ยึด ผบ.ทบ. โผทหารฉบับ "เสือตะวันออก" จับตา "ป๋าป๊อก" กับความฝันหลังเกษียณ”, July 23, 2010
    Matichon Weekly, มองแม่ทัพ 1 ทะลุ ผบ.ทบ. บูรพาพยัคฆ์ จูเนียร์ ฝัน ป๋า กับฝัน ป๊อก จาก พล.ม.3 ถึง พล.ร.7 และโบนัส "ฮ่องกง", July 30, 2010
    Siam Intelligence, “เปิดโผย้ายทหาร 3 เหล่าทัพ พลเอกประยุทธ์ ผบ.ทบ.ชัดเจน”, July 28, 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog
    Is being head of the army in Thailand anything to do whatsoever with defending the country?
    Sure- they bravely had their arses kicked by tiny Laos in a border skirmish back in 1987/8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog
    Is being head of the army in Thailand anything to do whatsoever with defending the country?
    Sure- they bravely had their arses kicked by tiny Laos in a border skirmish back in 1987/8.

    So So true and where is the man the who lead the thai army this glorious defeat..... He's Chairman of PT, who's going to being the country to a new golden age next election apparently.

    And to prove that old solders never die, didn't he leave the country just before the shit it the fan on may 19th?... running away,clearly, some habits never die
    Last edited by hazz; 21-08-2010 at 12:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog
    Is being head of the army in Thailand anything to do whatsoever with defending the country?
    Sure- they bravely had their arses kicked by tiny Laos in a border skirmish back in 1987/8.

    So So true and where is the man the who lead the thai army this glorious defeat..... He's Chairman of PT, who's going to being the country to a new golden age next election apparently.

    And to prove that old solders never die, didn't he leave the country just before the shit it the fan on may 19th?... running away,clearly, some habits never die
    Laos didn't really win, the Thais fragged their own units by mistake. Not really
    Chavalit's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordechai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog
    Is being head of the army in Thailand anything to do whatsoever with defending the country?
    Sure- they bravely had their arses kicked by tiny Laos in a border skirmish back in 1987/8.

    So So true and where is the man the who lead the thai army this glorious defeat..... He's Chairman of PT, who's going to being the country to a new golden age next election apparently.

    And to prove that old solders never die, didn't he leave the country just before the shit it the fan on may 19th?... running away,clearly, some habits never die
    Laos didn't really win, the Thais fragged their own units by mistake. Not really
    Chavalit's fault.
    If it were an isolated issue I could agree, but is was under his leadership that the thai government the government spent all its reserves supporting the Baht and lying about its currently reserves. when the truth came out its trigged the SEA crash of 1997. but then everyone blames soros for that one.

    Sorry, but the Gen's for lots of form for being a walking disaster.

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    ^^^

    Who do you think deserved the greatest blame Banharn, Chavalit, or Chuan?

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    Whilst we're on the subject of the heroics of the current Thai army generals... when I'm down by Tha Chang and the Royal Navy Club, they always look so proud whilst pulling up in their Benz', the door opened by their drivers, crisp white uniforms with hundreds of medals... Always makes me wonder: medals for what??? The navy only every had 2 battles from what I can make out - the battle of Koh Chang where a crappy old French 'warship' defeated their entire navy and the French took over half of the country as a result... & the kidnapping of the PM when the army sunk their flagship... Medals for what? Pride for what? Their history is a fuking embarassment!

    Rant over.

    Feeling very irritable today...

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    Thailand's generals play musical chairs - Part 2 | Asian Correspondent


    Thailand's generals play musical chairs - Part 2

    Aug. 03 2010 - 08:30 am

    By Saksith Saiyasombut,

    This is the second part in a two-part series on the upcoming military command reshuffle. In part one, James Harriman has reflected on the new ranks below the commander-in-chief. Today, this post highlights the aspirants on the top army post.

    Every September is the time where the Thai military faces the annual game of musical chairs, where the many high-ranking generals are eager for a promotion. With the upcoming retirement of the current commander-in-chief Gen Anupong Paochinda, the question of the successor reveals the still substantial political weight of the kingdom's highest ranking soldier.
    But this year though, September can't come fast enough for some.
    In fact, Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwon has already set July 20 as the deadline for commanders of the armed forces to send in their reshuffle lists to the defence permanent secretary, Gen Apichart Penkitti. These lists could even be in Gen Prawit's hands before the month ends. According to the schedule, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva should be able to send the names for royal endorsement within August.
    "Democrats In A Rush To Anoint Prayuth", by Wassana Nanuam, Bangkok Post, July 15, 2010
    The government's favorite candidate for the top post is Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha, currently deputy commander-in-chief and a graduate of class 12 of the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School - this is where all future top commanders go through.
    Like in many aspects in Thai society, interpersonal relationships and affiliation play a big role in determining the status of a person and his or her chances of being promoted.

    To understand the importance of personal relationships and the graduation years inside the army to ascend through the ranks, I recommend reading Paul Chamber's lengthy, but in-depth essay on New Mandala. It also contains a handy list of all the current top army officers.
    As Chambers has pointed out, Gen Anupong and Gen Prayuth were ex-commanders of the 21st Infranty Batallion of the Second Army Division, more commonly known as the "Queen's Guard" - a highly influential military unit that also have played a decisive part in the military crackdown against the anti-government red shirt protesters on May 19. This unit has also over the decades been actively supported by Privy Council president Gen Prem Tinsulanond.

    Getting back to the government's intentions, one has to look back at the most recent red shirts protests. It is reported that the relationship between prime minister Abhisit had its rough patches since Gen Anupong has shown some hesitation to move against the protesters, while Gen Prayuth has maintained and even improved his ties to the government during the protests, so a promotion to the top rank can be seen as a reward for him.

    With the potential appointment of Gen Prayuth comes also a long list of aspirants that are expected to take the seats below him. James Harriman has reflected on that aspect yesterday.

    Even though the promotion for Gen Prayuth is almost certain, there are some musings that he might face some competition. Gen Piroon Phaeopolsong, currently army chief-of-staff, is considered to be the dark horse in the race for the next commander-in-chief.
    In late July, Matichon Weekly has listed three reasons that could favor him for the top spot: Firstly, Gen Piroon hails from the same cavalry unit as Gen Prem, who himself would like to see one his of kind becoming commander-in-chief (แถมทั้งมีแรงดันจากบ้านสี่เสาเทเวศร์ ที่อยากให้ พล.อ.พิรุณ ซึ่งเป็นทหารม้าลูกป๋า ขึ้นเป็น ผบ.ทบ. สร้างประวัติศาสตร์ให้ทหารม้า มาเป็น ผบ.ทบ. อีกสักคน หลังจากที่ทหารม้าซบเซามาตั้งแต่หมดยุคป๋าเปรม) . Also, as both Matichon Weekly and the Bangkok Post (already last year) have pointed out:
    Another advantage of Gen Piroon, who has advanced in his career from the cavalry, is that he is regarded as one of Gen Prem Tinsulanonda's proteges. The president of the Privy Council banked on Gen Piroon to make his dream of seeing the set-up of the new 3rd Cavalry Division in Khon Kaen come true. Gen Prem had reportedly made a remark to leading soldiers that, "If I see the 3rd Cavalry Division before I die, I will die peacefully.''
    "PM Abhisit, Gen Prayuth and their common future", by Wassana Nanuam, Bangkok Post, December 12, 2009
    Secondly, the 2nd Cavalry Division is regarded as one of the leading forces behind the storm on the red shirt protest site from the Sala Daeng area (the Silom intersection) and Gen Piroon, because of his role as army chief-of-staff and his cavalry origins, is regarded as one of the masterminds (กำลังทหารม้าจากกองพลทหารม้าที่ 2 รักษาพระองค์ (พล.ม.2 รอ.) ก็กลายเป็นพระเอก เพราะเป็นกำลังหลักในการบุกเข้ากระชับพื้นที่ด่านศาล าแดง ด่านใหญ่ที่สุดของคนเสื้อแดงที่เชื่อว่าอันตรายที่สุ ด ซึ่งก็มี พล.อ.พิรุณ ซึ่งเป็นทหารม้าในฐานะ เสธ.ทบ. ก็มีส่วนร่วมวางแผน ).

    And lastly, Matichon names the 'Buriram connection' as a factor favoring Piroon, since he hails from the north-eastern province - same as influential and powerful politicians like Newin Chidchob, leader of the Bhumjaithai Party (key coalition partner of the government) and whose relatives are regional power brokers. (สิ่งที่ทำให้ พล.อ.พิรุณ ถูกจับตามองขึ้นมา ทั้งๆ ที่แรงแผ่ว ก็คือ "บุรีรัมย์ คอนเน็กชั่น" ด้วยเพราะเหตุที่เป็นคนบุรีรัมย์ เช่นเดียวกับนักการเมืองคนสำคัญ และฮ็อตที่สุด มีเพาเวอร์ที่สุดในยุคนี้ อย่าง นายเนวิน ชิดชอบ แกนนำพรรคภูมิใจไทย แถมซ้ำมีเครือญาติที่เป็นกำลังหลักในพื้นที่ของนายเน วิน).
    Out of all three factors, the 'Buriram connection' appears to be weakest argument, since no political party has a say in military issues except the Democrat Party. Nevertheless, Piroon's Isaan origin could make him a more 'agreeable' candidate among all political factions in contrast to Gen Prayuth, who has not made big efforts to hide his opposition to Thaksin.

    Also, Gen Piroon is a graduate of class 10, same as current commander-in-chief Gen Anupong - who is actually reported to favor Piroon to become his successor (ตัว พล.อ.อนุพงษ์ เองก็ไม่ขัดข้องหากเพื่อนรักที่เขาขุนมากับมือ จะขึ้นมาเป็น ผบ.ทบ. ก่อนปีหนึ่ง).

    One factor that speaks in favor of Prayuth is that, since he is a class 12 graduate, his retirement will be in 2014. Piroon on the other hand, can only be commander-in-chief for one year. So, it is more likely that he will be pushed to be chairman of the Royal Army Advisory Board, a position that has little influence in the ranks.

    So, in the more than likely event that Gen Prayuth becomes commander-in-chief, it will be seen as a further attempt to strengthen the ties between the Democrat-led government and the armed forces. The irony is though that with the impending dissolution case of Democrat Party, the next commander-in-chief will survive the current government and with a new one, the game of musical chairs starts anew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    There is no political interference in the annual reshuffle of high raking officers in the armed forces, permanent secretary for defence Gen Apichart Penkitti affirmed on Tuesday.
    This is both very Telling, although to any observer time bleedin' obvious.

    In a true democracy, top Brass appointments are always approved by the ruling government. Because the Military reports to the government. And for that matter, the Secretary of Defence is never a bluddy General.

    Of course in the quasi-military government that these fools have brought Thailand right back to, the opposite is the case. There can be no denying it now- in current day Thailand, the 'Government' reports to the Military. Cheers guys.

    These idiotic Democrats have set this country back years. What a bunch of incompetent clowns.

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    Thanks for making that so clear, Sabang.

    Top armed forces posts are decided by the government, not by the services themselves.

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    Bangkok Post : Gen Prayuth tipped to be army chief


    Gen Prayuth tipped to be army chief


    Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha, deputy army chief, has been selected as the new national army boss replacing Gen Anupong Paojinda who retires at the end of September, reports said.

    Local dailies reported on Tuesday morning that Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwon had submitted the military reshuffle list to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

    The prime minister is expected to forward the reshuffle list to His Majesty the King for royal endorsement soon.

    According to the local newspapers, close aides and classmates of Gen Prayuth were also promoted to take up key positions in the army.

    The local dailies said assistant army chief Gen Thirawat Bunyapradab was promoted to be deputy army chief, Army Region 1 commander Lt Gen Kanit Sapithak as assistant army chief, Army Region 4 commander Lt Gen Pichet Wisaijorn as assistant army chief, assistant army chief Gen Witch Thephassadin na Ayudhya as army advisory chairman and deputy army chief of staff Lt Gen Daopong Rattanasuwon as chief of staff.

    Another key post is the permanent secretary for defence in which deputy supreme commander Gen Kittipong Keskowit was tipped to take up the job, the local dailies said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    In a true democracy, top Brass appointments are always approved by the ruling government. Because the Military reports to the government. And for that matter, the Secretary of Defence is never a bluddy General. Of course in the quasi-military government that these fools have brought Thailand right back to, the opposite is the case. There can be no denying it now- in current day Thailand, the 'Government' reports to the Military. Cheers guys. These idiotic Democrats have set this country back years. What a bunch of incompetent clowns.
    Agreed except for the last sentence.
    It is status quo, it has never been any different so no setting back. Just take a look at the number of retired high ranking military officers that has a parliament seat as a thanks for their previous services. I don't believe their was less of them under Thaksin.

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    PM: Military Reshuffle List Submitted for Royal Endorsement
    3 August 2010

    Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said he has submitted the annual military reshuffle list for royal endorsement.

    Once endorsed, the appointments will come into effect on October 1.

    Army Chief-of-Staff General Prayut Chanocha is tipped to take the post of army chief.

    thailandoutlook.tv

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