The COVID-2019 Thread

[Iceman123]

Jesus Christ, when did this become a high school debate contest.

It’s fuckin’ ridiculous - no one can even be bothered to post any links from google. Harry has just abandoned us. We are rudderless without him.

[misskit]

France, UK Break COVID Records, Surging Past 100,000 New Cases In Single Day

France on Saturday broke its all-time COVID-19 record, tallying a startling 104,000 cases in a single day— while the UK. surpassed 122,000 cases.


France racked up just over 94,000 cases in the previous record the previous day. More than 16,000 people are hospitalized in France with COVID-19, and 3,300 of those are in intensive care, Bloomberg reported.


French President Emmanuel Macron planned to convene his Health Defense Council Monday to plot new measures to keep the country safer. Full vaccinations, with boosters, will likely soon be required to enter any bar, restaurant and cultural venues, Bloomberg reported.


France, with a population of 65 million, is close in population to the UK’s 67 million. Spain, with a population of 47 million, tallied a record 50,000 cases earlier in the week, and Italy (60 million) recorded nearly 45,000 cases on Thursday. Several other European countries are overwhelmed by soaring cases and are instituting new restrictions.


There were nearly 600,000 cases worldwide on Friday — and more than 128,000 new cases reported on Christmas Day in the U.S. More than 69,000 Americans were hospitalized with Covid-19 on Christmas Eve, according to data from the US Department of Health and Human Services, CNN reported.


Florida hit a new all-time record of 32,850 COVID cases reported on Saturday, according to The Miami Herald. The previous record was reported the previous day.


As of Thursday, Florida tallied 3,864,288 cases since the pandemic began in March 2020, and 62,374 deaths.


“Omicron is 10 [times] more potent at causing reinfection than previous variants — protection from prior infection is not as good as protection from triple” vaccination, Dr. Aileen Marty, an infectious-disease expert at Florida International University, told the Herald.


So far, hospitalizations and deaths from the surging number of cases has been far lower than with the delta variant. But scientists warn that it’s still too early to know what the final impact could be.

France, UK Break COVID Records, Surging Past 100,000 New Cases In Single Day

[Stumpy]

So wait....panic but.....

[misskit]

This IS a news thread.

[misskit]

Average number of new COVID-19 cases in Georgia jump 70% in last week

Friday afternoon, the 7-day average for positive COVID-19 tests in the state was just shy of 6,000, according to data provided by the Georgia Department of Public Health. That is a significant jump from the previous Friday which saw the same average at just over 1,800. The last time this average was this high was back in September during the middle of the delta wave.

The last week has also seen a 12% jump in the number of PCR tests administered and has seen exponential growth in the positivity rate. Friday along, the GDPH reported more than 21% of tests administered tested positive for COVID-19, a percentage not seen since January.


Hospitalizations and deaths from COVID-19 have also started to climb. But what is decreasing is staffed ICU beds as hospital staff undergoes health and safety protocols due to illness. Still, Georgia’s hospital staffing is in good shape compared to many harder-hit states.


Some hospitals are reporting higher than 95% of their patients with COVID-19 have not received a single dose of vaccine.


Georgia remains 46th in the percentage of those eligible to be fully vaccinated. Despite vaccinations slowly continuing to climb, only 54% of those who can be fully vaccinated are.

Average number of new COVID-19 cases in Georgia jump 70% in last week

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Running like wildfire through the US. My 26 year old daughter just tested positive , thank god she was visiting her mom for Christmas in FL from California where she works with OxFam . Otherwise her Mom would have to go there, and she just came back from California that she went to have Thanksgiving with my daughter.
So far mild symptoms. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Obviously I am very upset, and is considering flying to the US to be with her.
My niece who is a fashion designer with Tory Butch says her whole department is down with it. She is also in FL visiting for Christmas and yesterday that I talked with her she was concerned about getting back because flights were being canceled left and right.

[Norton]

Obviously I am very upset, and is considering flying to the US to be with her

As I am brother but stay home or you may be stuck in the US indefinately. This viral condition we live in has a very long way to go before travel restrictions are eased enough to make it easier to get from place to place.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

As I am brother but stay home or you may be stuck in the US indefinately. This viral condition we live in has a very long way to go before travel restrictions are eased enough to make it easier to get from place to place.

Thank you for understanding , do you have someone close to you infected? I have not being folollowing this forum very close lately.
Samantha is young and healthy , so I am keeping my fingers crossed, but if it takes a turn for the worst I am going to have to go.

[malmomike77]

AstraZeneca may explain Britain’s lower death rate

Britain’s use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine may be one of the reasons that the nation is not seeing as many deaths as other European countries, according to a former head of the Vaccine Taskforce.


Dr Clive Dix said he believed that the jab could help to stave off serious Covid-19 illness for longer than RNA-based alternatives made by Pfizer and Moderna. “If you look across Europe, with the rise in cases, there’s also a corresponding lagged rise in deaths, but not in the UK,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “I personally believe that’s because most of our vulnerable people were given the AstraZeneca vaccine.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/astrazeneca-may-explain-britains-lower-death-rate-b6fp56tv9

[OhOh]

[malmomike77]

^ during the current Omicron wave...sigh

[OhOh]

The overall graph not to your liking?

Let's just say there is no improvement for many, except some exceptional countries.

[malmomike77]

^ as i pointed out the article is in relation to the current wave.

Clearly the graph you keep trotting out which shows China with one of the lowest rates suits your pro-Xi agenda. Of course the chinkies, the epicentre of Covid were at pains to cover up the virus leading to its spread and ending as a pandemic because as usual its about their image and fuk everything else, yet you are asking readers to believe the chinky stats from a country with the largest population and using a vaccine who's efficacy was well below 50%. Carry on

[misskit]

Thailand confirms 514 Omicron cases

The number of patients infected with the Omicron strain in Thailand has risen to 514, with two-thirds of them being tourists, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration announced on Monday.

However, most of the patients have mild symptoms with a slight infection of the upper respiratory tract, though their lungs are clear. Of the patients, 54 per cent have developed a cough, 37 per cent have a sore throat and only 29 per cent also have a fever.

The newest cluster of concern was found in Si Sa Ket, where a couple travelling back from Belgium had tested positive for Omicron and are believed to have transmitted the virus to 125 people with another 97 awaiting confirmation. The cluster is also believed to be linked to six infections in Udon Thani and four in Lamphun.

Thailand confirms 514 Omicron cases

[Cujo]

^ as i pointed out the article is in relation to the current wave.

Clearly the graph you keep trotting out which shows China with one of the lowest rates suits your pro-Xi agenda. Of course the chinkies, the epicentre of Covid were at pains to cover up the virus leading to its spread and ending as a pandemic because as usual its about their image and fuk everything else, yet you are asking readers to believe the chinky stats from a country with the largest population and using a vaccine who's efficacy was well below 50%. Carry on

Unfortunately you can't believe anything out of China.
A useful lesson i learned early on.
whether hoho likes it or not it's a thing.
If their lips are moving they're lying.
Or at least to a degree you have to assume so.

[naptownmike]

It seems that just everyone is getting Covid here in the US now.

My parents went to a party last week and my mom has it but my dad tested negative. Christmas was cancelled unfortunate as it will be a long time before I'm back home for the holidays again.

A bunch of people at work have it. It looks like covid will just run wild now. For the first two years it was quite rare to have a close acquaintance that had covid. Now it looks more unusual not to have it.

The good news is most have mild cold like symptoms if they have been vaccinated which is good to hear. I hope this settles down before I head to Thailand in 37 days.

On a finale note that chart above showing China with little to no cases is a joke correct.

[hallelujah]

Well done Boris Johnson and the Tories.

No more new Covid restrictions in England before New Year’s Eve | News | The Times

Boris Johnson gives the go ahead to celebrate as normal after data suggests Omicron will not overwhelm hospitals.

Facts not fear.

No more lockdowns. No more fear of a common cold. No more restrictions on day to day life for any future scariant.

[taxexile]

China's most widely used covid vaccine 'ineffective' against omicron.


The new research represents a hammer blow for the country's 'zero-Covid' policy and vaccine diplomacy efforts

By
Simina Mistreanu
23 December 2021 • 4:06pm

Two doses plus a booster China’s most widely used vaccine are ineffective against the omicron variant, a laboratory study found, in a major blow to Beijing and countries it supplies with its jabs.

Three doses of CoronaVac didn’t produce sufficient levels of neutralising antibodies to protect against omicron, a study released Thursday by researchers at the University of Hong Kong and the Chinese University of Hong Kong, said.

The research suggests people who got two doses of CoronaVac should choose a booster from a different company. Study subjects who got Germany’s BioNTech SE’s mRNA booster saw their levels of antibodies against omicron improve.

China has reported only a handful of omicron cases so far but is battling relatively small outbreaks of older variants.

China's most widely used vaccine 'ineffective' against omicron
An employee of SinoVac works in a lab at a factory producing its SARS CoV-2 Vaccine for Covid-19 named CoronaVac CREDIT: Ng Han Guan /AP
The research translates into bad news for the country: more than 80 per cent of its population has been vaccinated with either the Sinovac jab or another Covid-19 vaccine produced by Sinopharm. Both use inactivated vaccine technology, which in trials has proven less effective at preventing infection than other vaccines, especially those using mRNA.

In another study this week, the Sinopharm booster was found weaker against omicron than against older virus variants. About 1 billion doses of the Chinese vaccines have also gone to more than 100 other countries, particularly in the developing world.

China has yet to approve an mRNA jab. State media earlier in the pandemic led a propaganda campaign against Western vaccines in an effort to portray Chinese jabs as superior. Approving mRNA vaccines now would require the government to go against its own narrative, which it might be reluctant to do ahead of a politically sensitive year, when the country is staging the Winter Olympics and a one-in-five-years party congress.

This forces China to double down on measures that have been the staples of its 'zero-Covid' strategy' border closures, lockdowns, mass testing and contacting tracing.


Xi'an, a city of 13 million people, went in to a full lockdown after the discovery of 200 cases over the course of two weeks CREDIT: STR/AFP
Local governments especially are going to extremes to keep Covid-19 at bay.

A Chinese city of 200,000 people near the border with Vietnam ordered its entire population to quarantine this week, after one resident tested positive for Covid-19 during a routine screening.

And in Xi’an, a northwestern city of 13 million, authorities curbed outside travel and regular commuting within the city after more than 200 infections were detected in the past two weeks.

China's most widely used covid vaccine 'ineffective' against omicron
China's most widely used covid vaccine 'ineffective' against omicron

" snigger"

[baldrick]

for the mask curious

[HermantheGerman]

China's most widely used covid vaccine 'ineffective' against omicron.

...and the Olympics are yet to come.

[hallelujah]

Hospital admissions in the UK now over 50% lower than at the same stage last year while the number of people in intensive care on ICUs is at the lowest level for 2 months.

'Mass deaths and hospitalisations are now history': Vaccines expert backs PM's Covid measures | Daily Mail Online

[misskit]

More good news.

U.S. CDC shortens COVID-19 isolation, quarantine time

The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the one to two days prior to onset of symptoms and the two to three days after, according to the CDC.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Monday shortened the isolation time for Americans infected with COVID-19 from 10 to five days.

"Given what we currently know about COVID-19 and the Omicron variant, CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to 5 days, if asymptomatic, followed by 5 days of wearing a mask when around others," said the agency in a statement.


The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the one to two days prior to onset of symptoms and the two to three days after, according to the CDC.

U.S. CDC shortens COVID-19 isolation, quarantine time

[OhOh]

yet you are asking readers to believe the chinky stats

The graphs I post, and have posted in the past consistently, are sourced from Johns Hopkins University CSSE web site.

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Take it up with them if they are publishing incorrect data. If they are being duped by one countries' data, how can you rely on them for any other countries' data.

Whose data set do you consider to be more acceptable and why?

Unfortunately you can't believe anything out of China.
A useful lesson i learned early on.

Which country do you consider to be telling the truth, and why?

" snigger"

From your source:

China's most widely used covid vaccine 'ineffective' against omicron

Which country do you suggest produces the most effective vaccine against the omicron variant? What studies have confirmed your choice?

From the graphs posted by me yesterday #12910 (The COVID-2019 Thread) there doesn't appear that any western produced vaccine has reduced the infections or death rates.

Quite the opposite, they are still climbing.

"About 1 billion doses of the Chinese vaccines have also gone to more than 100 other countries, particularly in the developing world"

Which, of the 100 other countries, have had increases of cases and deaths, or reduction of cases and deaths, post vaccination?

As somebody noted, I often use the overall 2+ years of data cumulative graph, which was a concern of his.

Here are the last two months, 7 day rolling average graphs:

I submit that the graphs indicate no substantial change, except Canada has improved its deaths stats.

The Asian countries, Thailand, India and China are still way better at managing their COVID-19 problems.

Better vaccines, better health care, more responsive citizens, or shall we just say, false data has been supplied for the past 2+ months?

...and the Olympics are yet to come.

Which will be labelled as a disaster in the west, whatever the data proves.

But although the games hopefully will be a success:

[Buckaroo Banzai]

It seems that just everyone is getting Covid here in the US now.

My parents went to a party last week and my mom has it but my dad tested negative. Christmas was cancelled unfortunate as it will be a long time before I'm back home for the holidays again.

A bunch of people at work have it. It looks like covid will just run wild now. For the first two years it was quite rare to have a close acquaintance that had covid. Now it looks more unusual not to have it.

The good news is most have mild cold like symptoms if they have been vaccinated which is good to hear. I hope this settles down before I head to Thailand in 37 days.

On a finale note that chart above showing China with little to no cases is a joke correct.

It is running like wild fire in Florida. My Daughter tested positive a couple of days ago, since then a friend ant three relatives have tested positive.
They are all feeling like crap but are doing well in isolation at home.

[misskit]

New COVID-19 cases in US soar to highest levels on record

CHICAGO (AP) — More than a year after the vaccine was rolled out, new cases of COVID-19 in the U.S. have soared to the highest level on record at over 265,000 per day on average, a surge driven largely by the highly contagious omicron variant.


The previous mark was 250,000 cases per day, set in mid-January, according to data kept by Johns Hopkins University.


The fast-spreading mutant version of the virus has cast a pall over Christmas and New Year’s, forcing communities to scale back or call off their festivities just weeks after it seemed as if Americans were about to enjoy an almost normal holiday season. Thousands of flights have been canceled amid staffing shortages blamed on the virus.


The number of Americans now in the hospital with COVID-19 is running at around 60,000, or about half the figure seen in January, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported.

While hospitalizations sometimes lag behind case numbers, the figures may reflect not only the protection conferred by the vaccine, but also the possibility that omicron is not making people as severely ill as previous versions.


COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. have climbed over the past two weeks from an average of 1,200 per day to around 1,500.


Several European countries, including France, Greece, Britain and Spain, also reported record case counts this week, prompting a ban on music at New Year’s celebrations in Greece and a renewed push to encourage vaccination by French authorities.

New COVID-19 cases in US soar to highest levels on record | AP News

COVID CASES USA 380,751 DEC 28 2021 189,010 DEC 28 2020 DEATHS 2,494 DEC 28 2021 1,899 DEC 28 2020