The COVID-2019 Thread

[Bettyboo]

^ 'Arry, you don't have to do a Mr Sausage when somebody doesn't agree with you 100%. Qualified in detail in a very narrow space, such comments are fine, even correct, but left untethered (as they were in the examples used) it's a very slippery slope.

[harrybarracuda]

^ 'Arry, you don't have to do a Mr Sausage when somebody doesn't agree with you 100%. Qualified in detail in a very narrow space, such comments are fine, even correct, but left untethered (as they were in the examples used) it's a very slippery slope.

Oh Boo FFS, I made a quite specific remark and you changed it.

Shut up now, I don't want to listen to another 30 posts from you claiming you're right again when you're fucking wrong.

[harrybarracuda]

And when you're online and the chinkies are trying to lie about their bat munching, pull them up on it man.

[Seekingasylum]

Is Battyboob transitioning?

[Switch]

I agree with Jabir and Kmart. Anyone with a serious underlying condition, being treated for cv19 symptoms seems to be added to the cv19 death tally.
The nnderlying statistics for regional deaths has not changed markedly in any western country.

It is also a fact that many who are asymptomatic, have had the disease and recovered. They are recorded nowhere, as are those who are symptomatic, who succumb to the virus in a mild form and recover.

If you take average death rates over a five year period, and count cv19 reported deaths excluding asymptomatic cases, the current annual stats are only marginally worse. Something like 0.3% in most western countries.

Countries like China and Russia who are quite secretive about real numbers, could use a lesson in simple maths.

[harrybarracuda]

Is Battyboob transitioning?

Just don't fucking mention antibodies whatever you do.

[Bettyboo]

Another area the trolls were wrong... Just because you shout louder and more consistently like Mr Sausage, might equate to a 'win' for you on the internet troll-cage, but isn't the case in the real world... Fuk me, some of you need to get out more...

[Bogon]

Concerning the UK Vs Thai

It wouldn't surprise me when the figures are released next year that the UK had on average...

10% fewer deaths by cancer
7% fewer deaths by pneumonia
8% fewer deaths by natural causes
3% fewer deaths by blah blah blah
...and the list goes on because these deaths will be recorded as Covid related.

I pulled the percentages out of my arse, but you get the idea.

Whilst in Thailand there will probably be an increase in deaths of the causes above due to the deceased not being tested for the virus.
Thailand should have a NET gain this annum though because the ban on alcohol, curfew, freedom of movement and cancellation of Songkran should save around 20,000 - 40,000 lives this year.

[Edmond]

Whilst in Thailand there will probably be an increase in deaths of the causes above due to the deceased not being tested for the virus.

I suspect that, like car crash victims that don't die at the scene, they won't be added to the final tally.

[Klondyke]

Countries like China and Russia who are quite secretive about real numbers, could use a lesson in simple maths.

We just have to believe our MSM - and the state figures - we do know that they never would lie to us, would they?

[harrybarracuda]

More than 610,000 people who registered for the 5,000 baht cash handout granted by the government to ease the impact of the Covid-19 have cancelled their registrations out of fear they will face legal action for providing fake information.

Charnkrit Dejvitak, an assistant attached to the PM's Office, said the Finance Ministry on April 4 added a cancel button on the website www.เราไม่ทิ้งกัน.com ["You will never be left behind"] so people who registered and "had no intention to give false information" can have a chance to withdraw their registrations.

"As of yesterday, more than 610,000 people cancelled their applications, or 76,000 per day, which was a high number," Mr Charnkrit said.

"This is mainly because the Finance Ministry is pursuing legal action against those who gave fake personal information by instructing its legal team to conduct urgent checks on applicants' information."

The ministry has filed complaints with the Technology Crime Suppression Division, asking it to take legal action against five people who posted fake information about the cash handout on social media, Mr Charnkrit said. He said this prompted the number of cancellations to rise to 5,000 in two hours between 8pm-10pm on Saturday.

The Finance Ministry also set up another legal team to track down improper posts about financial aid on social media.
Some who received the aid boasted they did so by cheating, and the ministry will actively seek out these posts and cancel the next monthly payment to those responsible as well as recall the first 5,000-baht payment from them without taking legal action.

For those claimed they received the cash handout, but they actually did not, this is tantamount to causing public a disturbance and they will be prosecuted for inputting false information to the internet in violation of the Computer Crime Act, said Mr Charnkrit.

According to the executive decree on 1 trillion baht in borrowing recently approved by the cabinet, 600 billion baht will go to health-related plans and financial aid to affected people, including the 5,000-baht monthly handouts to an estimated 9 million self-employed and laid-off people, which will be extended to six months from three months.

Those who give fake information to trigger the 5,000 baht cash handout will be prosecuted for fraud under the Criminal Code and are liable to a jail term of up to three years, a fine of up to 60,000 baht, or both, Mr Charnkrit said.

Lavaron Sangsnit, director-general of the Fiscal Policy Office, said the next payment of the 5,000 baht cash handout is due tomorrow and Tuesday for a total of 600,000 eligible applicants.

He said the number of people who registered for the 5,000 baht cash handout scheme rose to 26 million on Saturday.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1897900/thousands-cancel-handout-requests

[OhOh]

Thailand there will probably be an increase in deaths

There does seem to be an increase in elderly, male, smokers who returned from Italy, dying due to being stamped to death by elephants.

No numbers from the UK in that category, yet.

[Dragonfly]

^^ i think that is low. The current reported figures are hospital identified deaths from COVID, the unreported numbers i.e nursing homes and home deaths may never be known for lack of testing. We are at 10k and i reckon that could be 40%+ adrift. I doubt we'll ever get a real number in the UK or worldwide.

as we originally predicted in the beginning, the number of deaths in China was definitely over 250K, possibly 1m or 2m, which would not be unusual, but then the question is why lie about it?

[jabir]

as we originally predicted in the beginning, the number of deaths in China was definitely over 250K, possibly 1m or 2m, which would not be unusual, but then the question is why lie about it?

I think US intel plumped for actual China infection/deaths at between 14-40x CPC offerings. If this is a fair spread, infections would be well into 7 digits with deaths possibly also up in that region.

[Klondyke]

but then the question is why lie about it?

Why not. As all world events - bad or good - are nowadays a weapon of state propaganda the population like to believe so much.

[Warwick]

In fact, most people who die from this virus would have died eventually

I'll correct that for you BB.

All the people who die from this virus would have died eventually.

In fact, I have bad news for you. Everyone dies eventually whether they catch Covid-19 or spend the rest of their life hiding under the bed.

[Warwick]

It wouldn't surprise me when the figures are released next year that the UK had on average...

10% fewer deaths by cancer
7% fewer deaths by pneumonia

And 10% increased deaths from suicide.

Like you I plucked the number from the air, the number is irrelevant, the cause of death is not.

[Warwick]

There seems to be a massive rush in Western countries to attribute natural deaths to Covid-19. People with late-stage cancer, even.

Western nations, that seem to have bought wholesale into the notion that only a policy of massive isolation with its attendant destruction of jobs and economies will save the world, need to either justify their policies by amplifying the the death rate or admit that they reacted badly to a wave of mass hysteria.

[Dragonfly]

Western nations, that seem to have bought wholesale into the notion that only a policy of massive isolation with its attendant destruction of jobs and economies will save the world, need to either justify their policies by amplifying the the death rate or admit that they reacted badly to a wave of mass hysteria.

of course they reacted badly and panicked,

unless they are not telling us something, maybe a dirty little secret they don't want to expose

COVID-19 could be our Chernobyl moment, and we all know what it cost to the USSR and what happened next, total collapse of the USSR

[NamPikToot]

At least one person I know believes glorious Thai leaders must be fibbing like never before

Jabs, of course they are, they are Chinks. They are happy to let the whities take the hit as long as no bad press and public anger focuses on the real source. It is amazing how for a country visited by so many carriers they have got off pretty much scot free whereas Europe and the US...

[Iceman123]

The problem with most countries is that no politicians are ready yet to make the hard decisions.

Isolate the weak and vulnerable, let the rest of the population get back to work. FFS this is not going to wipe out humanity, the economic devastation will be much more harmful, particularly in third world and developing countries who are taking their lead from us if we continue on the lockdown path.

If a treatment or vaccine arrives - Bonus, waiting for these however is about sensible as waiting for the second coming - we’re still waiting.

[HermantheGerman]

Anyone care to kick this off, you're welcome.

The Germans are going to find a vaccine and save the world.
The British are going to praise the Germans because they are so smart and hard working.
A week later the British are going to report again about WWII and how cruel those Germans are.

What I'am trying to say is: "Nothings going to change".


In about a year 50 million deaths (incl. Trump)

[HermantheGerman]

I'll correct that for you BB.

All the people who die from this virus would have died eventually.

In fact, I have bad news for you. Everyone dies eventually whether they catch Covid-19 or spend the rest of their life hiding under the bed.....

....or reading your posts

[HermantheGerman]

Let's calling it the Chinese Virus?

Good video! Thanks!

[Bettyboo]

These house arrests are sending many of the already dire TD posters into total overload. Fortunately, myself and Hermann will continue to hold the fort while you lot go and seek treatment...