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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    ^

    I'm sure many of the Red shirts are nice people as well, its only the Extremists on both sides who really stir the shit and excite the following mobs.

    That's why the punters who pick a side and then call all of that side out as being evil are so foked up.

    You are right, I have friends who are red shirts and also good people.

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    ^They're all lovely people. It's the fvckers behind the curtain trying to push them into a divide and conquer scenario that need to be dealt with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    You are right, I have friends who are red shirts and also good people.
    Good people eh? But you don't seem to consider them good enough to have their electoral choices respected.

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    the Reds and Yellows are fools that can be easily manipulated,

    the solution is to put both groups back into their cage, where they will be more happy

    having the Army run Thailand for the next few years is going to be interesting,

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    Just imagine if Thaksin had been man enough to go to jail.

    Imagine if he had donated all the money the Courts later took, on providing some sort of infrastructure that would last a century and beyond.

    Imagine if Suthep, instead of leading protests, put his money into the theatre and TV with humorous parodies showing how incompetent the Yingluck Government was.

    Imagine if people laughed at the leaders for being idiots rather than hiding behind a rent-a-mob.

    That's the difference between a great country and a wannabe....

    That's the difference between Betty and Terry, Sabang and Albert, the ones that back people and not sheeple...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Wait, Wait,

    How many fingers are in that salute? Count now, and be sure.

    One is blowing a whistle. Its a good way to stop Thailand becoming just like North Korea.

    Blow on a whistle and do the 3 fingered salute, the mixed message will blow our great dictator's mind and Thailand will be free again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    Anyway, I see this has become yer basic 'support the coup' spam thread. OK, the generals glorious self penned national anthem was a work of sheer brilliance, beloved by the great mass of the people- indeed, previously thought within the capability of only one man. The criminalising of the three fingered boy scout salute has no doubt been met with a collective sigh of relief by the Boy Scout Association, the Village Scouts, and their sponsors.
    Sounds like satire and sarcasm rolled nicely into one...

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    Learned a new word this morning.... "gerontocratic." Michael Peel used it in his Financial Times article Salute to the Past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Wait, Wait,

    How many fingers are in that salute? Count now, and be sure.

    Perfectly acceptable if referenced to para-military outfits.

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    If you had supreme power and wanted part of some action, wouldn't you clean and prepare it using public funds and functions, before making your move?

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    Here’s the latest update on what’s happening in Thailand at the present time, FYI.

    Thailand Political Situation – TCEB Update 11 June 2014, 17:00 hrs. (GMT+7):

    The National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) announced the lifting of nighttime curfew in 17 provinces and 15 districts in three provinces with effective as of 10 June 2014.

    The provinces are Kanchanaburi, Ratchaburi, Tak, Rayong, Chanthaburi, Sukhothai, Mae Hong Son, Uttaradit, Phrae, Nan, Nakhon Phanom, Sakon Nakhon, Roi Et, Loei, Surin, Trang and Satun.

    The 15 districts are Sadao and Mueang districts in Songkhla, six districts including Ko Kood in Trat and seven districts including Kaeng Krachan in Petchaburi.

    The 20 areas joined the existing 10 major tourist destinations currently enjoying curfew-free, which are Phuket, Ko Samui, Pattaya City, Hua Hin, Cha-am, Krabi, Phang-nga, Hat Yai, Ko Chang and Ko Phangan (including Ko Tao).

    Full report at TATNews dot ORG

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    Interesting. 2 posts, both linking to TAT stories. Do you work for TAT per chance?

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    The brutal dictator of NorthKoreaBurmaLaostan (formerly known as Thailand) Herr General Fieldreichfuherer Sheikitallabout Prayuth God of war Khomeni has decided to let Thais watch the world cup for free.

    Junta to splurge on World Cup | Bangkok Post: news


    Football fans are likely to be able to watch all 64 World Cup matches on free-to-air TV after the military junta intervened in a dispute over broadcast rights.
    Oh the horror, democracy is at stake, let loose the boy scouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Just imagine if Thaksin had been man enough to go to jail.

    Imagine if he had donated all the money the Courts later took, on providing some sort of infrastructure that would last a century and beyond.

    Imagine if Suthep, instead of leading protests, put his money into the theatre and TV with humorous parodies showing how incompetent the Yingluck Government was.

    Imagine if people laughed at the leaders for being idiots rather than hiding behind a rent-a-mob.

    That's the difference between a great country and a wannabe....

    That's the difference between Betty and Terry, Sabang and Albert, the ones that back people and not sheeple...
    .... and imagine if the vast sum of money wasted on lawyers and court hearings had been spent on something useful. Anything, you know, like upgrading Thailand's rural dirt tracks. ahem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    The brutal dictator of NorthKoreaBurmaLaostan (formerly known as Thailand) Herr General Fieldreichfuherer Sheikitallabout Prayuth God of war Khomeni has decided to let Thais watch the world cup for free.

    Junta to splurge on World Cup | Bangkok Post: news


    Football fans are likely to be able to watch all 64 World Cup matches on free-to-air TV after the military junta intervened in a dispute over broadcast rights.
    Oh the horror, democracy is at stake, let loose the boy scouts.
    Oldest trick in the book innit? Very silly and naive of you not to see through the intent of placating and distracting the masses with treats, a trick EVERY parent knows well ..

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    Giving the people what they want is certainly a trait that is often absent in many politicians, (until election time that is, and then only in small amounts).
    Last edited by Mr Lick; 12-06-2014 at 02:14 PM.

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    So he's paid the rice farmers and now given everyone the WC.

    Bread and circuses?

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    Sabang sagely spake thus:
    Economically speaking, the generals certainly have their work cut out-

    Investment Applications Down 42% in Thailand
    Tourist Arrivals For May Down 11 Percent
    300,000 Trucks Idle After Economic Slowdown
    I would wait & see before spending time & money investing in Thailand. Many of its neighbours are growing at a clipping pace. Even Malaysia is doing well at ~ 6.2% - at least they have long-range goals. As Sabang mentioned, the average growth rate for the region is ~ 7%.

    Thailand has done itself no favours - especially in these tough economic times, for most. Very sad for folks who have genuine interests in the region, but - this is a fact of life.

    The recent coup and its consequences will undervalue Western-owned businesses in the region, I'd think. For instance, I know of a particular operation up for sale for some years now. How will the potential buyers view the recent political events?

    Political mindset changes would be culturally-driven. This can take many years to smooth out & stabilise - possibly 15-20 years - possibly longer?
    Last edited by Waid; 12-06-2014 at 02:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    how is that relevant to the political debate and Democracy in Thailand ?

    none, whatsoever

    if you are only concerned about economics, then you should stop pontificating on Democracy as it was a magic formula for economic success, because it is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    The brutal dictator of NorthKoreaBurmaLaostan (formerly known as Thailand) Herr General Fieldreichfuherer Sheikitallabout Prayuth God of war Khomeni has decided to let Thais watch the world cup for free.

    Junta to splurge on World Cup | Bangkok Post: news


    Football fans are likely to be able to watch all 64 World Cup matches on free-to-air TV after the military junta intervened in a dispute over broadcast rights.
    Oh the horror, democracy is at stake, let loose the boy scouts.
    damn, can we have a coup over in Europe too ? here we have to pay to watch the games !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    So he's paid the rice farmers and now given everyone the WC.

    Bread and circuses?
    a nice change from the corrupt village fund and free AIS mobiles

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericson2u
    I have personal experience with the village fund and have not seen any corruption.
    I highly doubt that, maybe you weren't looking hard enough or didn't know where to look

    Quote Originally Posted by ericson2u
    Post some links with your accusations.
    right, to be true it must be on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by ericson2u
    The coup leaders seem to be the ones giving the freebies at the moment.
    oh the crime !!! next they will be giving free healthcare

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    economics growth is not even part of a credible Democracy debate. If you base your arguments on Economics to debate Democracy, then you lost the debate already and you are simply being "American" if you get my drift.
    A stable country allows a stable economy to grow & strengthen.

    To attempt to decouple the two, is not reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waid
    A stable country allows a stable economy to grow & strengthen.
    and a dictatorship certainly does make a country stable, at least for some time,

    too many examples of dictatorships being successful economies, see China, Russia, Singapore etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by Waid
    To attempt to decouple the two, is not reasonable.
    maybe in your parallel universe, or if you are American and believe in fairy tales

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