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    Phuket: Patong Icecream Vendor Kills Rival in Dispute Over Territory

    Patong Icecream Vendor Kills Rival in Dispute Over Territory - Phuket Wan


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    Patong Icecream Vendor Kills Rival in Dispute Over Territory

    By Sert Tongdee
    Friday, November 23, 2012

    PHUKET: Two icecream salesmen failed to keep their cool in Patong today, with one vendor killing the other in a dispute over territory.

    Nai, 24, who was killed, had been selling around the Phisit Koranee Road area in Patong for two years.

    Police are now hunting a rival ice cream vendor, Yae, 32, who stabbed him to death about 11.30am today. Yae had been selling in the district for about three months.

    Both men were Burmese, said the investigating officer, Lieutenant Colonel Jongserm Preecha, of Kathu Police Station.

    It's believed the dispute escalated over time.

    Even though Nai had been selling in the area longer than Yae, Yae became aggressive and killed his rival.

    Yae is believed to have fled with his wife after the killing today.

    Both men's icecream saamlor - motorcycles with sidecars and containers for icecream - were found near the scene of the killing.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    What a stupid thing to do, all over a business territory rivalry.
    So the idiot thought he'd fix it by wiping out his rival.

    Oops! on second thoughts he figures he's now gotta do a runner. Total no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    What a stupid thing to do, all over a business territory rivalry.
    So the idiot thought he'd fix it by wiping out his rival.

    Oops! on second thoughts he figures he's now gotta do a runner. Total no brainer.
    it's just as likely a longer running more complex issue from within the immigrant burmese community.

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    I scream we all scream..so sad

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    So Nai asked for a topping and the other guy took it literally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post
    So Nai asked for a topping and the other guy took it literally?
    Good one!!
    First-time poster, but long-time viewer. TD is good stuff...

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    does it say how many scoopes were served?

    ah, stabbed

    there should be a license for fruit knives

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    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post
    does it say how many scoopes were served?
    Did you mean: scoops

    scoopes is a type of snack

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    Sadly, It would appear in view of the many knife attacks concerning Thai's Portrayed on these boards over the last week or so that it should be deemed "par for the course" , and of course if a farang is involved the "hanging judges" on this great little forum will declare them automatically Guilty ,or "they asked for it", truly pitiful !

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Sadly, It would appear in view of the many knife attacks concerning Thai's Portrayed on these boards over the last week or so that it should be deemed "par for the course" , and of course if a farang is involved the "hanging judges" on this great little forum will declare them automatically Guilty ,or "they asked for it", truly pitiful !
    and this case involved neither thai or farang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Sadly, It would appear in view of the many knife attacks concerning Thai's Portrayed on these boards over the last week or so that it should be deemed "par for the course" , and of course if a farang is involved the "hanging judges" on this great little forum will declare them automatically Guilty ,or "they asked for it", truly pitiful !
    and this case involved neither thai or farang.
    Quite correct Noodles ,that's why I selectively used the word "IF" about the farang , as far as the Perpetrator of the crime goes ,I don't think that there would be a great deal of difference in the Genetic make up of either Thai or Burmese, its all one land mass ain't it!
    Last edited by piwanoi; 24-11-2012 at 08:39 AM.

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    i bleive the same kind of thing happened in Glasgow in the 1980's, though the said ice cream venders sold more than ice cream

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    Yeah so funny. Any thoughts about the dead guy's family? Did he have kids? Cycling the streets trying to get people to buy ice cream they don't want and could by from 7/11 around the corner? He was a Burmese migrant with few choices for livelihood - killed by another guy in the same situation (who should be in prison now for that). Funny in'it?
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    Only in dark cynical way. more sad and pathetic

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    there comes the middle class... ohhhh that poor people, so sad... so particularly sad...

    there are at least as many assholes among poor people as in the middle class...
    its no more sad when a poor person is murdered as a rich one...
    if you find there a difference, then there is something wrong with YOU...

    in general, people that got killed or poor people are automatically "victimized"... (by many)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post

    ..its no more sad when a poor person is murdered as a rich one...
    if you find there a difference, then there is something wrong with YOU...

    in general, people that got killed or poor people are automatically "victimized"... (by many)
    Really? How many rich people are killed through violent acts compared with poor people? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here as I don't fully understand your reply above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post

    ..its no more sad when a poor person is murdered as a rich one...
    if you find there a difference, then there is something wrong with YOU...

    in general, people that got killed or poor people are automatically "victimized"... (by many)
    Really? How many rich people are killed through violent acts compared with poor people? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here as I don't fully understand your reply above.
    i also give you the benefit of doubt - that you are through and through middle class and never have peaked into "poor" or "lower" class...

    im not saying, a "poor life" isnt harder than a "rich one"... but in terms of being an asshole, being violent - or being a murder victim - its no different...

    it - imo - shouldnt matter when having "virtual feelings of mourning" whether the victim was poor or rich, but that exactly it does - for the middle class definitely... because in fact - they are looking down at that "poor suckers" with their "unfortunate" lives...
    thats not the case in "reality"... being poor doesnt mean unhappiness or being unfortunate or being a more sad victim than a rich one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Really? How many rich people are killed through violent acts compared with poor people? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here as I don't fully understand your reply above.
    define 'rich and poor' first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Really? How many rich people are killed through violent acts compared with poor people? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here as I don't fully understand your reply above.
    define 'rich and poor' first.
    I suppose it boils down to how many zero's you have behind the 5 !

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    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post
    there comes the middle class... ohhhh that poor people, so sad... so particularly sad...

    there are at least as many assholes among poor people as in the middle class...
    its no more sad when a poor person is murdered as a rich one...
    if you find there a difference, then there is something wrong with YOU...

    in general, people that got killed or poor people are automatically "victimized"... (by many)
    Personally I don't see what class has tgo do with it, but thebn you a 1+1=6 type of chap.

    As I see it

    One chap, has just lost everything of finacial value to him and has gone on the run with his family. At best they must start from nothing again, at worst he will spend years in jail, whilst his fimaiily have to do the necessary to survive.

    the other chap, he's dead, he's lost everything that was of any value to him, his future, his family, his estate. his family will ance face the wolves with one less source of support.

    And probably, as with most murders, the only differecne between the murderer and the victim was the luck or lack of it to get killed first.

    That both chaps have given up almost if not actually everything over an argument, which compared to what they had in their future and family was utterly petty . is both very sad and very pathetic.

    class donsn't come in to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post
    there comes the middle class... ohhhh that poor people, so sad... so particularly sad...

    there are at least as many assholes among poor people as in the middle class...
    its no more sad when a poor person is murdered as a rich one...
    if you find there a difference, then there is something wrong with YOU...

    in general, people that got killed or poor people are automatically "victimized"... (by many)

    class donsn't come in to it
    My original question was "how many rich people get killed" compared to poor people. It's not a question of class. It's a question of desperation. Hazz more or less answered it earlier - these guys were fighting over their very livelihood. That's the point. Of course the guy who killed him is an asshole, and yes there are equal numbers of assholes among the rich and the poor. Poor people are more vulnerable and have much more to lose on a day to day basis than some rich guy or middle-income earner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat
    in general, people that got killed or poor people are automatically "victimized"..
    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat
    (by many)
    Very true

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat
    in general, people that got killed or poor people are automatically "victimized"..
    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat
    (by many)
    Very true
    they are (by default often) seen as the "good" or "innocent" ones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat
    in general, people that got killed or poor people are automatically "victimized"..
    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat
    (by many)
    Very true
    they are (by default often) seen as the "good" or "innocent" ones...
    Paying large amounts of "Wonga" to the "right people" or being connected to a "powerful friend or Parents "can buy you copious amounts of " Innocence" here in Thailand !!, and with respect any one who thinks any different is "deluded"
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