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    Abhisit Vejjajiva has been invited to deliver a speech on good governance

    Abhisit to discuss governance
    June 26, 2012

    Former prime minister and Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva has been invited to deliver a speech on good governance and anti-corruption at an international congress in Penang on Wednesday.

    Speaking to reporters before leaving on a plane for Penang, Abhisit said he had been invited to make a speech to encourage all Asean countries to be aware of the need to ensure good governance and to fight corruption.

    Abhisit said good governance and fighting corruption were needed because Asean would see fast economic expansion while democratic and good governance developments remain problematic in several countries.

    Abhisit will deliver his address during the inaugural Conference of the Asean Coalition for Clean Governance, organised by the Penang Institute.

    Abhisit said the conference was part of preparations by countries in the region for the Asean Economic Cooperation.

    Abhisit, who is now opposition leader, is among several influential speakers, all from the Asean region, who will be hosted by the state government as part of its agenda to promote clean governance.

    Earlier, Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng of Singapore told reporters that the speakers greatly influenced the course of governance in their respective nations.

    "Abhisit is, of course, a strong proponent of good governance and opposes authoritarianism. He adheres to those principles," Lim said.

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    makes you wonder who the other guest speakers will be. pukets jj?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post


    makes you wonder who the other guest speakers will be. pukets jj?



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    Newin, and Suthep ought to join him. Should have changed the party name when he brought those two on line. This is coming from a guy who thought he would make a change.

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    You cannot really invite mr mugabea without....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    while democratic and good governance developments remain problematic in several countries.
    Not in thailand it doesn't, now the junta proxy amart dem murdress junta instrument has been removed by the democratic votes of the people, in re-electing the great international statesman Kun Taksin Shinawatra for the fourth time .

    You can't argue with that

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    That's a hoot. Inviting Mr. Corruption himself to give a speech on good governing. TIT

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    Thai political prisoners have a good story about it.
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    I am sure most educated Asians are sniggering into their napkins about it.

    Nevertheless, when considering Asean we must concede the less than stellar democratic credentials of several of it's member states, such as Burma, Laos, Vietnam & the Fil's, not to forget the Sultan's private fiefdom. Compared to these (take a deep breath), it is fair to say that Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand are actually a step up, or at least a grade further less down in comparison. So I need not press the obvious point of there being rather a dearth of credible candidates to lecture about accountable government and democracy in an Asean forum, unless we were to hear the whole tedium delivered in Singaporean chinglish.

    Whilst the obvious truth is that Mark is the failed PM of an undemocratically appointed regime that will only be remembered for it's oppression, violence, corruption, picking fights with it's neighbour, and being totally reliant and subservient to the same Military coupists that appointed it, we must concede he does cut a snappy figure in a suit, and an otherwise wasted English public school and Oxbridge education served to imbue him with the sort of plummy accent and ease in English that can not be purchased off a shelf.

    I still could have thought of a couple of less blatantly unqualified speakers though. Given recent trends in (until recently) basket case Indonesia, a senior Indonesian figure would have been nice- but we would have to wince our way thru' that fractured accent of theirs. But actually, closer to home, there is also Chuan Leekpai (aka 'the Painter'), who at least displays a certain modesty of obscene & questionable wealth compared to his Democrat peers. But I suppose he is 'yesterdays man'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post


    makes you wonder who the other guest speakers will be. pukets jj?


    WOW..................I love it

    You are a genius Bangyai.

    This one goes into "Calgary's Hall of Fame"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    Abhisit, who is now opposition leader, is among several influential speakers
    Unbelievable.

    An ICC investigated Politician no less!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    Abhisit is, of course, a strong proponent of good governance and opposes authoritarianism. He adheres to those principles," Lim said.
    Gotta find a comedy club to send this to.

    Words fail me....Sorry....this one is too much!

    Thank you Sabang (#9 above).

    I just don't have the patience to enunciate the idiocy of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Newin, and Suthep ought to join him. Should have changed the party name when he brought those two on line. This is coming from a guy who thought he would make a change.
    This lends Abhisit the kind of credibility that everyone else in that space lacks, and it's telling that no one else was invited to speak....

    That said, I agree with you, that he had the best potential to make a change, and Suthep and Newin were actually of benefit to that -- sadly, too many compromises had to be made in the coalition, and Abhisit was not really allowed to lead and rule as he should have -- which is the undoing of good politicians.

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    I should imagine they've invited him because he is a decent, intelligent, educated, knowledgeable, experienced man and, above all, can communicate in real English and not that tortured tinglish.

    Abhisit represented the future political class in Thailand but was way ahead of the times for the Thai and, frankly, is too good for them.

    The problem with the Thai is that thay need corruption and deception to succeed. Without it, their lack of talent, their laziness, their insatiable greed and their desire for power without the wit to exercise it with integrity would consign them to any political scrapheap the world over.

    Abhisit attained educational excellence through his own endeavour. He fully understands that the foundation of good governance is rested solely on a rule of law and the separation of powers. Given time and a developing caucus within the political fabric of Thailand he would have demonstrated to the common people that true democracy was within their power and not the ersatz, pork barrel, gimcrack, snakeoiled travesty they eventually chose.

    Thai deserve the leaders they allegedly choose and in Thaksin I'm sure they have chosen someone that best demonstrates the Thai " qualities " which they may believe are necessary for good governance.

    Anyway, Abhisit is a class act, the rest are just, well, you know..........Oh, and he doesn't engage in shonky deals, crony derived market rigging, murder, coercion and he does pay his taxes.

    I should imagine that was what clinched it for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    Abhisit represented the future political class in Thailand
    Well, his cultivated image did (the truth of the matter is yet to be established)- and that's why he was useful as a titular puppet to those that shunted him into office.

    Which, when you compare, is really no different to the previous Democrat PM, Leekpai, aka 'the Painter'. It seems to be a well worn modus operandi of theirs by now, and really a Prime Minister should neither be used as a titular puppet to paint over the ongoing abuses of those who nominally report to him, but in actuality don't , and neither is 'diminished responsibility' an adequate legal or moral defence for a Prime Minister. The buck stops with you Mark, and your democratic credentials have thus been sorely tarnished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    I should imagine they've invited him because he is a decent, intelligent, educated, knowledgeable, experienced man and, above all, can communicate in real English and not that tortured tinglish.

    Abhisit represented the future political class in Thailand but was way ahead of the times for the Thai and, frankly, is too good for them.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    Abhisit represented the future political class in Thailand
    Well, his cultivated image did (the truth of the matter is yet to be established)
    in other words - you don't know, but you have that implication by insinuation will be enough of a character assassination job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu
    insinuation
    Insinuation?? I hardly need remind you of the actual track record of the Abhisit administration.
    Are you saying that, like a good Democrat, I should just paint over that and buy the insinuation instead that this clean cut young toff with his unfulfilled but well coiffured image represents 'the future of democracy'?
    I'm afraid I am more inclined to base my own opinions on results, which Mark is sorely lacking.

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    ^ more insinuation, with nothing to support it.

    What if I started to "insinuate" about you, your family, and friends? Seems to be an okay tactic, since that's what you employ

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    Its quite sad really when the best person they can find for this job is Abhisit, still, those nasty burmese Indians he got towed out to sea do have dark skins so probably deserve it, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
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    insinuation
    Insinuation?? I hardly need remind you of the actual track record of the Abhisit administration.
    Apparently you do need to remind him.

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    Nobody perfick, Dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Apparently you do need to remind him.
    Yes, please do - and particularly point out in those instances, where Abhisit was personally responsible.

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    The opposition finds it perfectly feasible to find Thaksin personally responsible for everything that happened (not to mention several things that didn't) whilst he was PM.

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    He is "ultimately" responsible by handing power to subordinates to use deadly force against unarmed anti-establishment demonstrators. Had he intervened to stop the killings the moment the troops started firing, or at the latest when the "live fire (free fire)" zones were set up by the military, then he might have escaped the charge. He didn't and hence he is culpable. Of course, he can always use the excuse in his defence that he was only following orders by someone above him.. What do you think? Should he do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The opposition finds it perfectly feasible to find Thaksin personally responsible for everything that happened (not to mention several things that didn't) whilst he was PM.
    I didn't say I did - I asked you to substantiate your claims and accusations.

    As I thought, you can't.

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