So, Calgary is either a troll, or he's just another common conspiracy theorist.
Let me guess -- he lives somewhere in "rural Thailand"?
Let me guess again -- he comes from a "humble background" (and when asked about it, will refuse to reply)?
Let me guess again -- his education is another question he won't respond to?
Let me guess again - ditto about his medication (which he stopped to take on his own, because he "feels much better and needs no drugs")
That kind of idiocy tell me you are not an ordinary Poster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthulhu
Only the hardest core PADite would come up with stuff like that.
I can speculate about who you are.
You are despicable to me.
I will no longer expose myself to your kind.
I am very thankful Teakdoor has the "ignore' feature.
Really? I'm a PADite? Gee, maybe you could share with the class who you think I am?
Go on.
Oh, right, you pretend to ignore me. Suuuure.
I'd say, suggest to up your meds.
I'd like to know who you are Duck:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthulhu
So go one, tell me who you are then
You can't argue with that
^^ Welcome to the Calgary's ignore list. It's an exclusive club. :)
If he adds SD & Mid, we might finally be rid of him as he will have no one left to respond to. :)
Oh Dear, what a shocking thing to say, just confirms you as a credibility duckegg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthulhu
Of course nothing to back it up as usual, just hiding behind the keyboard, and most likely pissed again back on holiday with the lad, the lads.:)
Made that Redshirt gunmen bit up to did you
Nobody else gives a fcuck who you are Duck, but do let me know who you are , then I'll introduce you to a few redshirt women, the Redshirt gunmen won't be necessary in your sad little case.
You can't argue with that
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Originally Posted by sabang
I assume that outcome that was "potentially much worse than the actual UDD demonstrations and subsequent crackdown'" was the elections in 9 months that were offered 3 times during the 2010 protest?
TH
TH.......why do you keep avoiding the obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaihomeQuote:
Originally Posted by sabang
I assume that outcome that was "potentially much worse than the actual UDD demonstrations and subsequent crackdown'" was the elections in 9 months that were offered 3 times during the 2010 protest?
TH
How many times have I told you that an offer is not an agreement.
Why is that so difficult for you to understand. We have been through this before. How many times do we need to have this repetitive discussion.
Unless of course you don't want to understand
When an offer is made in a non-negotiable manner, it is a 'mafia offer'.
The R'song massacre amply demonstrates this.
"Offer without negotiation or agreement" =R'song murders=mafia offer"
Does that help you TH.
One can offer the world, but when it is not pursued to an agreement in a negotiated way, the offer is just so much folderol.
I know you PADites have often tried to cast this "Offer" in angelic" terms, but that only fools your own kind.
It doesn't fool those at the receiving end of such tactics.
And this bit about offering an offer three times is also garbage.
Once would have been enough, if it had been done in good faith and had it been followed by discussions leading to an agreement.
The operative word is 'agreement' TH, not 'offer'.
You 'assume' incorrectly then- but I 'assume' you already know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaihome
Violent civil war, insurrection etc are the outcomes I was referring to, obviously.
A ridiculous possibility to be gambling with, between corrupt cabals that have the most to lose.
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Originally Posted by sabang
No, I don't know that. What you spout is pure nonsense and I suspect you do so only for trolling purposes.
TH
Oh I dunno, I don't think they ever had it in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary
and how would you do that....invite him to Manchester to meet Nong Ning from the local take away?Quote:
Originally Posted by LooseBowels
^^^ What you spout is pure partisan propaganda TH, but that is well enough known.
'Tis your 'team' arguing against and attempting to defy record electoral majorities in a democracy, which I consider akin to farting against thunder.
Nobody asked how the dems and the army benefited, the question was who REALLY benefited from provoking the army, the answer is the same people who have been using the army to protect and consolidate their power for the last 90 years or so. If you're unable to make that distinction maybe you should get back to scribbling your phone number on toilet walls instead of displaying your ignorance of history and politics on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by hazzthere are times when talking about a certain family can get you a hefty sentence, but given that the dems, the army command and the the special people had very very closely aligned interests in apr/may 2010; invoking the fear of lm as a reason not to comment how the dems and army gained from the killings in 2010 is not a reason... simply avoiding the question with a pitiful excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaihomeQuote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
Actually, bob, I tend to agree with yoou about previous incidents, but I think 2010 was a cynical plan to take advantage of the legacy of those incidents. The difference between the 2009 protests and what happened in 2010 are very telling.
If it benefited who you claim, why did they not do so in 2009 under exact same circumstances? Is not the only difference between 2009 and 2010 the presence of the armed element within the UDD?
Why did Veera, the person who called off the 2009 protest in which nobody was killed, leave the 2010 protest before the outbreak of the major violence from May 14th to the 19th?
TH
So, let me get this straight. - Calgary, Sabang and DrBob are the typical and very common type of conspiracy-spouting loons ("invisible hand" and all that secret information that only *they* are privy to, of course), quickly ignoring anyone's comments but their own bleating.
I'm ignoring Loose Bowels in this list, who, just like Butterfly, is just another opportunistic troll, hoping to sidetrack a thread...
We should be so lucky - I would love to hear his theory on who he thinks I am, PADdite, no less. Maybe I can be Sondhi, .. or Spartacus..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
To lump DrBob and sabang with Calgary is quite honestly cruel.
Calgary should be together with Loose Bowels and recognise as trolls, good trolls, but trolls none the less.
How could infantile petulance be considered cruel Bob? Closer to the truth to say pointing this out is cruel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
No invisible hand was behind the two record electoral majorities in the history of Thailand Ct. Or am I being 'cruel'? :rolleyes:
How so? Please explain how they allegedly differ? I only see different intensities of the same confused obstinence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
Please explain where you learnt to read. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthulhu
Uhmmm... one is a troll and the other to are intelligent.
Whether you agree with what they post or not, the difference between them and their methods of getting their point across are light years apart.
Mmmm... Okay, I'll agree with you that their methods of communicating differ, albeit their ability to listen and consider opposing arguments and facts do not differ by much, if anything - their response to any counter opinions seems to be the same ridiculing brush-off that we see by other "passionate enthusiasts".Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
if anything, we can probably agree that Calgary is bat-shit crazy, while DrBob and Sabang are just "passionately blinded and obsessed".
In fact, sabang's reaction to my question to you did not really help make your case.
Why is it that PADites all characterize those who offer alternative opinions as 'trolling'?Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaihomeQuote:
Originally Posted by sabang
No, I don't know that. What you spout is pure nonsense and I suspect you do so only for trolling purposes.
TH
I never see that the other way around.
If 'trolling' can be compared to 'shit disturbing or antagonizing', why are only anti-PADite points of view considered such.
An eternal mystery to me.
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Originally Posted by Bobcock
Why is it that PADites all characterize those who offer alternative opinions as 'trolling'?
I never see that the other way around.
If 'trolling' can be compared to 'shit disturbing or antagonizing', why are only anti-PADite points of view considered such.
People have repeated asked how the army, the dems, et. al. benefited from sending the army out to kill unarmed protesters; in numerous threads and this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
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Originally Posted by Thaihome
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Originally Posted by DrB0b
See if you were talking about 2009, I would absolutely agree with you. the dems, the army did very well out of this. to the cost of thaksin and the UDD; but at the core of this cost was the small number of deaths, much smaller than what thaksin was expecting when he was giving his interviews during the 2009 protests.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
It is clear that a repeat of 2009 would have been in the best interests of the army leadership, the dems and the others. They didn't get this, quite possibly because the person who engineered thaksin's great disappointment in 2009 was amongst the first people to be killed in 2010.
And therein is the question. In what way would ordering the army to go and disperse the protest killing rampage benefit the army leadership, the dems and the others over dispersing the protest as they did in 2009?
The main result of these martyrs has been a significant empowerment of both the UDD and thaksin who gained a significant stick with they have been using to compromise and beet both the army, the dems and mark ever since. How is that in the interests of the dems, the army leadership, the others?
When this question gets asked, all we get are statements that it is obvious that it was in the interests of the army command and the dems to kill people in 2010 and that any fool can see this. such as the example below
What you and nobody else seems to be able to do, is explain the logic of this obvious truth. Perhaps you would like to take this opportunity to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b